Holy.... You guys heard what happened right?

Okay, this is VERY OFF TOPIC! Feel free to yell at me later for it.

You all heard what happened in New York and at the Pentagon right?

DAMN It's JFK all over again.

So where were you? (Hopefully not hurt.)
I was at school. In the Internet Cafe, surfing, reading fics mostly, when one of the staff came in and told us that the campus was being shut down. We asked why, I thought it might of been the weather, and they told us.

"Two planes crashed into the Wold Trade Center and it fell, and a plane crashed into the Pentagon."

So I went down 7 flights of escalators, and decided to call home and get a ride home. No answer. After some messing around and cursing of the pay phone, I got through to the high school where my mom works. I just told the lady who I wanted and she put me through, mostly cause I had tried to collect call about 2 minutes before.

I get my mom's room and student answers. I tell her who I am and tell her to get my mom, NOW. My mom gets on and I proceed to break down and freak a little. (I was fine until I heard her voice.) She calms me down and says she'll be there ASAP, she's gotta get someone to cover her class. At about 11:15, she shows up and now I'm at her school, writting this. (And breaking the dress code the entire time. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif)

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

Yes, I defenitely heard. I live halfway around the globe, but the shockwaves are felt right here. The army is on alert, the streets are full of police and there is nothing else on tv. And I log into my computer because I just can't watch it anymore.
Thanks to the internet the horrible news hit us just half an hour after it happened, but I still don't believe it.
I think I should condole and wish strength to all Americans on behalf of the Belgian people. Damn this sucks http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/frown.gif

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i got very shocked!!! i know i'm in another country but it was very.. OH MY GOD!!!!, i was speachleess, i was trying to get up of my bed (or my hamaca, because i spleep in one of those) and i turn on the TV and i watch that the news in the very moment when the second plane was crashin into the second tower!!!!!!!!!!!! what a trageddy!!!!!!!!!!!!
i still shocked....

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give a kiss tall and dark bamfsome!!!

i got very shocked!!! i know i'm in another country but it was very.. OH MY GOD!!!!, i was speachleess, i was trying to get up of my bed (or my hamaca, because i spleep in one of those) and i turn on the TV and i watch that the news in the very moment when the second plane was crashin into the tower!!!!!!!!!!!! what a trageddy!!!!!!!!!!!!
i still shocked....

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give a kiss tall and dark bamfsome!!!

No kidding. Thanks Elwing. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

Still here at school. Watching mom with her classes. I think teaching is pertty much shot for today. The highway on the way here was dead. That never happens. It did today, almost no one on the road. One of the school districts here has all ready shut down, and the airport too, according to the news. (No planes anywhere.) Makes me wonder if mom's school is gonna be closed.

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

was right in the middle of posting here when i flip on the PIP and on the news saying that the WTC had been hit twice...everythings closed here,malls schools federal buildings.......

"Our hearts sing a prayer to those souls lost in flames of hate and revenge.Let the light that shines from the above giude them to a safer place than that they were shown.Out of the ashes of this tragedy,we rise as one to protect,love,share our warmth with the friends and families that this has touched.May each and every one of you be safe and share a moment to tell the ones you love how greatful you are that their alive.
keep safe and live to post another day"
~ Nightcrawlerslove aka April

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"C'mon,it was za eyes and tha blue fur wazn't it? I KNEW it was more zan just my charming personality."
*Kurt smugly smiles*
~Kurt to dana in Evolution near future~

Yikes. Still here at school....

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

All that I ask is a small prayer for those who have fallen or who are trapped,wounded and afraid and a moment of sympathy for those who were left behind.
Kurt would ask no less.
It is good to know that I am among good people all over this beautiful world.
sorry if i'm rambling, i'm kind of upset about this
Pax
Pandora

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I heard about it this morning, coming into work. (the mall closed at 1.) Unbelievable.
I was in shock all day. Thank God my sister went to Washington last weekend instead of this. But my parents are in New Hampshire, and I haven't heard from them! Not that I think New Hampshire is going to be attacked, but not knowing scares me.
I wrote a poem about it, but I'll post it in a separate thread.

You guys are great!! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Thanks so much for your support!

May God indeed helps those who have fallen victim to todays acts. May He bless those souls lost today. And may He have mercy on those who caused such destruction. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

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"The locals look more spooked, more than usual..."
(Maybe I should turn on my holoproj... :o )

We watched the coverage live in 3 of my classes.

I watched live as the second building fall and the whole class just went silent. I live near the naval base in san diego (not too close but close enough) and my dad works next door. By the way it's the biggest naval base in america. So everyone there was spassing!! Terrorists suck!

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Home now. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Yay! Home is nice, home is oh so nice. I don't wanna leave it for the few days..... Anyone else with me on that?

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

You guys were lucky that you found out as soon as possible. Most of the school day went by before our principle came on the intercom and told us what happened.
I heard a lot of general b.s. from kids who had heard it from teachers or noticed the headlines when they went online in the computer lab. Nobody really knew, or understood, what happened, and there was a lot of rumors flying around. Everything from that figgin' Ibn Ladan being responsible to Neo-Nazis and extreme right-wingists (a` la Timothy McVeigh >( ) being responsible. I kept asking my Literature teacher what happened, but she only said "I don't know". I think she was trying to keep us calm, but we went from being scared to being angry. We needed to know.
Finally, the principle announced what happened, and told us that 2 of the planes were from Logan Airport, an airport near us. Everyone went dead silent and went white. We all felt somehow responsible.
In the hallways, it was quieter than normal, but the voices that spoke were all furious. Everyone was angry. Some of us felt so bad we couldn't even eat lunch. At lunchtime, I tried to get a soda from the machine, and I was shocked to see the size of the crowds that had gathered around the payphones. Everyone was trying to call home, wanting to know if their moms were okay. Every voice I heard shook. I got angrier.
I knew something serious had happened, but I couldn't grasp the scope of what happened. In every class I demanded to know what happened, and everyone wanted to find a TV and put it on to see. The teachers said no.
We were dismissed early, and I ran into my house. My mom wasn't downstairs, but she had left the TV on, just in time for me to see a huge jet slam into the World Trade Center.
I'm so upset and scared, but that's all canceled up because I'm angry. I'm so angry I'm physically sick. I want revenge. My parents want revenge. We sat huddled around the TV, screaming at the reporters to tell us who the hell is responsible, screaming for the government to do SOMETHING. We were enraged when we saw the Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating the attack. We cheered when we saw Afghanistan bombed, that's how crazy we were.
But now? I don't know what to do.

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"Mein Gott ... it's a Cabbage-Patch NIGHTCRAWLER!!!!"

I think I'm in some sort of shock. I live very close to the Pentagon. When that plane hit, my house shook. I didn't take much note of the plane when it went over, because Reagan airport is close-by, but then there was this BOOOM and the ground jumped. I thought at first it was something that a road crew did outside. I went out to see what happened and they were pointing up in the sky and yelling. I asked what happen and they told me a plane went down around the Pentagon. One guy asked to use my phone and he couldn't get thru. At this point I turned on the tv and saw the Pentagon on fire!! Then they show the World trade center burning then falling down. It's been a very freaky day here. When the government shut down the roads were bumper to bumper for hours.

Ironically the weather was so beautiful today. It's surreal. I sincerly hope everyone reading this is alright, and that your loved ones are alright too.

And I just want to say to people in other countries, Thanks for your support. I saw people in Europe holding candlelight vigils, and statesmen promising aid and a day of mourning. I really appreciate that, as I'm sure all Americans do. I don't know how to express how much I appreciate that.

My mom's students watched t.v. all day, I think in every class they had.

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

I was at work. I went to use the printer and noticed most everyone wasn't at their desks.
I found someone and asked where everybody went, and she told me a plane had hit the world trade center.

I found everyone else in the break room staring at the TV.

I watched the second plane hit the other tower. I saw them switch to coverage of the pentagon, when they weren't even sure what had hit the building. I heard them announce the evacuation of nearly every building in washington. I watched as the first tower started to fall, and then the second.
I work and live near an international airport, and saw the congestion as, for the first time, all airplanes in American were grouned.

And now I'm watching the president as, there's all but talk of war.

And we don't even know who's responsible.

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"And all the Fr?ulein say I'm pretty fly, for a blue guy."

Yeah, I heard. I was getting ready to go to school (I live in colorado) and my mom yelled for me. I was tramatized. The poor people. And the fire fighters who died when the buildings collapsed. My dad is a fire captain, so that hit me hard.

In memory of all those who have perished this morning; the passengers and pilots on the USAir and AA flights, the workers in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and all the innocent bystanders. Our prayers go out to the friends and family of the deceased.

"a date which will live in infamy . . ." -- Franklin Delanor Roosevelt.

What part of CO, Lasombra?

Back to the issue at hand, my feelings are this:
I care deeply about what happened. It rocked me to my core and I still can't fathom the full repercussions this will have. I am saddened and frightened. But this is all giving way to a new feeling: I loathe being an American. Tragedy in America makes Americans just plain retarded. This sudden and rampant hubris is making me sick. I loathe the people declaring that we should "Go about business as usual! If we shut down, they win!" News Flash, people! If we go about business as usual the ones responsible will no doubt want to send us another message, most likely a stronger one. I'm sick of the Media jumping to conclusions. New flash, media people! You jump to conclusions and all the feeble minded people of this nation will agree with you! Didn't you f*cking learn anything from the election?!?

The people in New York were doing what I thought they should. They were banding together, they were trying to help. Lines FOUR HOURS LONG waiting to give blood. THAT'S what we should be doing. We should start the recovery, not the revenge.

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I was at work (government research lab) listening to Elliot in the Morning on DC101 (Spatch might be the only one to have a clue on that...). They had Ben Folds in the studio doing a live set, and as soon as he finished the first song, they cut to commerical, then interrupted the commercial with the news of the first plane crash. They start tapping into the TV feeds to find out some info, and they get ABC News just in time for the second plane crash. At that point, he starts calling all of his contacts from NYC and Boston to get more info. And people start calling in about the Pentagon crash before the TV stations report it.

By that time, over half the lab was in the main conference room watching the coverage. Nobody could really say anything. They sent us home shortly after 10:30...not much would have gotten done today anyway.

I didn't even head back to my home...I went straight to my parents' house. The whole day has just seemed surreal. While there I started going through some boxes I had stored away in the basement when I moved out and found tons of pictures from high school and college (including a way over-exposed photo of me in my Nightcrawler costume...all you can really see are the gloves and boots). In a way, it made me realize just how innocent life was before today.

Many prayers and thoughts to those affected directly and indirectly by today's events.

- Drew/Darkholme

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"Nightcrawler will do..." Kurt Darkholme, X-Calibre #1

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Hey everyone.

It's hard for me to even begin to express how I feel.
Honestly it still feels like i'm having a really bad dream. I was over my buddy's house just goofing off, and at about 11:00 am she came running into the room almost hysterical.... "The World Trade center is gone....!"

I turned on the T.V and it felt like I was about to pass out. Unimaginable. Unbelievable. Hours later and I keep waiting for someone to pinch me and say "wake up"!

Most of my family still lives in New York and I was beyond relieved to find out that they are all O.K. But the thought of what this means and what might still yet happen....scary, scary stuff.
My heart goes out to everyone and thank you to all of the international Elfaholics for your prayers and heart felt condolonces.
I love all of you guys and I really, really hope that this isnt signaling a very dark and dangerous turn for America and the rest of the world.

I know that this is even more off topic, i pray that the moderators will have mercy on us in our shock
I lived beneith the San Gabriel mnts. in
South Californiawhen they decided to grow two inches about 9 or so years ago...Mountains DO NOT grow quietly....we had flashing lights in the sky and the most terrible sound that I have ever heard.
My dad was in Vietnam , but I dont remember a lot about it.This is just awful . I keep thinking about little children coming home to find out that Mommy/Daddy is NEVER coming home again.
I am going to go to the local hospital and give blood tomorrow.
It is all that I have to give
Thanks for letting me rant.
Pax
Pandora

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I keep thinking of people , little children coming home to the fact that the person that they love more than any thing in the world.....will never be back.
how can one human being do this to another human being?
I live on the West coast and this is physically pretty far from me , but I am entirely with everyone else in spirit.
My dad was 9n Vietnam and was an EMT , this all hits pretty close to me.
Thank you, everyone , for being such exceptional people,Hugs to everyone.
Pandora

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I heard during a class about a "plane crash" in NY and something about "the towers." Didn't realize until after I got out of the net at ~11:30am, and wen't to check out the news on TV.

**We should start the recovery, not the revenge.**
My thoughts exactly. And I saw one of the news channels post up (as part of the information) the year of completion and cost of the towers, plus they keep rerunning the footage over and over...it makes me sick to the stomach. There was something a lot more priceless than two towers going down, there were people in there. And revenge, as is its nature, only breeds more revenge.
**celebrating the attack**
I understand, but honest to goodness, I cannot celebrate, even when there were bombings over there too. Hell, were are talking innocent lives everywhere, can't celebrate human tragedy regardless of where I am. I'm just hurting for all the people.
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Has anyone heard from spookyspice?

Well, I've been absent from here for a while because my grandmother had a heart attack. That pales compared to the happenings of yesterday.

I got into my car to go to work and heard it on the radio. I thought it was a hoax at first. My mom watched the second plane hit the tower on TV. My God...words fail.

At work, we did nothing but listen to the radio. We heard when the plane hit the Pentagon. For a while we heard the White House was on fire and a plane had gone down in Camp David. No one knew what the hell was going on... We all looked out the windows, expecting to see planes falling out of the sky over downtown.

Here in Kansas City, we shut down our downtown area and our brand new federal building. Hundreds of people were stranded at KCI airport. My husband works in one of the taller buildings in the city, on the skyline in fact, and I was terrified for him for a while. All day he watched Air Force fighters patroling the city. Everyone was scared to death because Kansas City would make a tempting target. We have a major Strategic Air Command center, stealth bombers at Whiteman Air Force Base, and many major mid-western federal offices. My husband's minister and my doctor are military reserve and were activated and called away.

These bastards shut down the entire country. We'll never be the same. There's not a fiery pit in hell deep enough for the people who did this. Jesus...there's probably 20,000 or more people dead here! In 11 years in the Vietnam War we lost 50,000. People call this a second Pearl Harbor. It's worse. We don't know who did this. There's not a clear enemy. And what's worse, retaliation will lead to more bloodshed. One day, it will be a nuke or a biological weapon and we'll all be dead. People can be brave and heroic, they can also be stupid. We just need to concentrate on recovery before we go pointing fingers.

An example of stupid is the gas price gouging and hoarding here in the Midwest. Gas went up to $5 a gallon and lines formed that were blocks long and caused car accidents. Stations across the city ran out of gas. Want a gas shortage? Well, create one by acting stupid. Grrr...

Ughhh... I hoped I would never live to see something this horrible. To Spatch, Shady and anyone and everyone else up in the Northeast, my prayers are with you. To Elwing, Kurtlover and all our international posters, thank you, your support means a lot. At least we're not alone in this big, bad world.

Wow...I heard Canada just allied with us against the terrorists, along with Great Britain. I guess Canada's not neutral anymore...

Jeanette/Slarti

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Still at home. School got shut down for the day. Doing my homework, 'cause part of it due Friday. :P

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*

I just got this on my CFAN mailing list and thought I'd share:

...wrapping himself in the soft, silky banner, ashes on his skin caking
noble blue with grey, Captain America looked to the skies.. and wept as
they seemed to fall forever....

- DCalme

My best wishes to your grandmother.

Hey guys. I'm checking in from Brooklyn. I hope all of you that are here in the states are okay, and that nobody lost any loved ones. It was so bizzare here yesterday. People were prophesizing doomsday, crying, talking about war, or going about their business like nothing was going on. My uncle is a firefighter, and we didn't hear from him until late last night, so I was a little preoccupied. I was calling my friends in the city all day long. It was still smoky downtown in some places this morning. Many friends of mine evacuated the city by walking down the highway and over bridges, and described the people as being dusty and shell-shocked yet orderly. There are planes and helicopters flying above me sporadically, causing my heart to pound furiously. There was nothing but errie silence last night, broken up by the wailing of sirens. There are still a lot of emergency vehicles going by, but I do live in Brooklyn...... Family friends that worked in the building are still unaccounted for. It is terribly sad. The smoke and ash was visible from Brooklyn. It wafted up into the air, changing colors, first black, then white, and then grey, and it settled into the atmosphere in a phosphorescent haze that was a light bronzish color. I went to the park near my house, which used to have a very clear view of the Twin Towers on the horizon. Not anymore. Just the haze of particles in the air on one side, and a pure, clear, calm blue sky on the other. Mass transit is all messed up. I was supposed to work tonight, but I do not want to risk going into and subsequently getting stranded in the city. It is very scary. Those poor people on the planes. Those poor people just doing their 9-5 thing. I understand people being angry about the way the U.S. military and economy functions, but none of the people killed were policy makers, or willingly perpetrated exploitative acts on other people. It's such a senseless waste. I really hope that there is not a war. People are already jumping to conclusions, looking for scapegoats, and broadcasting incendiary images in the media. Those images of a faction of Palestinians celebrating were about as inflamatory of the images of religious Jewish people celebrating in New York at the destruction of historical, religious sites, and when that little boy throwing rocks was ventalated by machine guns. Totally inappropriate and deliberate. I worry about immigrants being the targets of misplaced nationalistic violence. The Zionists on campus at my school already have U.S. Marine Corps t-shirts with solgans about faith in hebrew and english. Totally inappropriate, insensitive and very scary. No one made any demands or took credit for anything, and already everybody thinks that they are just so well informed and are calling for attacks on Afgahanistan. All these blameless people will die, both here and abroad if that happens, because our governments are run by corrupt, self-centered idiots. They'll sing "God Bless America", send out inflamatory images to stir up the public via the media, then hide out in fallout shelters while the populace goes off to fight against something that they do not understand. This was not an attack on democracy, as it is being insinuated by politicians in the U.S., it was a deliberate attack on the U.S's current exploitative model of capitalism, as well as U.S. military meddling in places where they have a vested financial interest, and U.S. support of oppressive dictatorships that kill their own (albeit dissident) people. I'm not condoning any acts of terrorism, but most of the United States is so ignorant on our foreign policies that they have no clue as to why anybody would attack these particular places. It's just reactionary bulls**t. All these idiots are talking about enlisting and killing people are manifesting mispalced nationalism, and it is all the more dangerous because of the religious overtones. They don't even know who it is they want to "nuke". Arabs, of course, the media postulated that they may be to blame, but which ones? Why would they do this? What, they had nothing better to do than plan an elaborate and strategic hijacking, just to "Threaten our freedom"? (Our freedom to exploit other nations?) To thwart democracy? Do we actually live in a participatory democracy? I think not. I have an awful dread that this is all a ploy by our own government to garner support for an unpopular president and a nation doubting their place in our preposterous electoral process, with Arabs being a convienient scapegoat. Is it any coincidence that we tell school children that Iraquis call America "The great satan?" It is very dangerous ground we are treading. I am scared. A bit paranoid, perhaps, but you all get the gist of what I'm trying to convey, I hope.



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You're defenitely not alone in this world, in fact there is just nothing else on here, not on tv, not in the papers, not in the conversations of people. At my work, we had the radio on all day. We felt like it happened right next to our door. When something happens in the states it happens in the entire western world.
We will have a day of mourning friday, which is well-meant and heartfelt but typical of european slowness.
I'm considering giving blood, not that it will be any good to the New Yorkers, but it is a great idea in general. I'm afraid my medication will render me useless though.

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Spookyspice! I am just so glad to hear from ya, I remembered you'd said you lived in NY and got worried.
**I am scared. A bit paranoid, perhaps, but you all get the gist of what I'm trying to convey, I hope.**
I get your gist. I think you explained yourself very clearly.

**You're defenitely not alone in this world**
Second that emotion.

I can't help but to be angry and scared and hateful. I'm doing what most humans feel that they have to do; react.
I hear what some of you are saying; maybe the US brought it upon us. Maybe you're right.
But can you really say that to the family members who gather around a TV and watch over and over again as a man flings himself from the WTC in terror, in confusion?
I heard one person say that violence begets violence. That is true.
So please inform me ... what violent action did we take against these people to warrant this maniacal attack?
The US is not totally innocent, I think. I tend to look at the United States as a child who means well but succumbs to the temptation of stealing shinier toys from the other children in that tiny sandbox we call Earth.
But what happened is unforgivable. The violence here and everywhere must come to an end now, one way or another. And whether worse comes to worse and we go to war, afterwards, we must come together and put the anger behind us.
For now, we must stand united and agree to find those responsible and bring them to justice. All those who have been touched by violence must join and say that they will not let it happen again. We will not let the idea that the United States is the Great Satan be the reason to slaughter innocent citizens in a most despicable way. We must come together and end the hatred and the racial barriers fall. We cannot let fear be the obstacle to true world peace. We cannot force ideas onto others, but show them the way to true happiness and peace.
Only when we do this can we all be Human.

--Lamia/Kara

hsu wishes Nightcrawler was real.

Think about it. He coulda been soooooooooo helpful.

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The United States keeps it's citizens sheltered from it's gross violations of human rights in the name of industry and economic progress abroad. I have friends and my family has friends that are STILL UNACCOUNTED FOR. I can't reach my friend Tava, and my mother knows people that are still unaccounted for. We (the US) are not childern led easily into temptation. That is an over-simplified analogy, I'm sorry, but it is. At this time, such simplifications and assumptions are very dangerous. Our country, via military actions, (police actions, to make them sound benign) has hurt many innocent people. Our actions in Hati, the Middle Eastern countries and our exploitation of China as well as parts of the Pacific Islands have not gone unnoticed by the rest of the world. We are not "the protectors of the free world." This was not an attack on democracy, but an attack on our current exploitative model of capitalism. Nobody deserved to die in those planes or in those buildings. That is not what I was saying. THEY were innocent. OUR GOVERNMENT is not. Our government supports ruthless dictators and that oppress and exploit their own people in the name of indusrty. There are reasons why the World Trade Centers (World Trade Organization ring a bell- the one those human rights activists keep protesting?) and the Pentagon (our wrongheaded military actions, motivated by profit, not liberty and freedom) were targeted. Our country blew up a pharmaceuticals building that made medicine for many lower income people a few years ago in Sudan, I believe it was. Officially, it was called an accident, but it seems to have been a deliberate, ruthless stratgey. As I type this, yet another building has fallen down. The horizon is still enveloped in that strange bronze smoke, and all of downtown New York is a ghost town. I am very upset by all of this, and worried about everybody, but this was NOT an unprovoked attack. We did nothing to deserve it, but OUR GOVERNMENT HAS. We are kept so sheltered from it's functions and processes and activities, and now we are all in shock, wondering why anybody would attack us. Believe me, the US has a lot of enemies, make no mistake abouit it. I truly hope there is not war. All the leaders will hide out in shelters, they and their loved ones kept safe, while we plebians will fight their battles, and spill our common blood for reasons beyond us. Enough. I am tired of the blood of innocent people. I am tired of the ignorance of the American public. We need to be educated, and we really need to look at our foreign policies. These acts were perpetrated by HUMAN BEINGS, people just like us. IMAGINE what it would take for you to do something so desperate and violent and elaborate. To sacrifice not only your own life, but the lives of many who were but cogs in a machine they did not participate in with any cognizance. Something is very wrong with the world. More destruction will not fix it.

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Goddess in progress.....

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Glad to hear that my fellow elficionados are allright, and that it seems that Nightcrawler fans really are rational people. Some of the comic fans and football fans at the boards I frequent are screaming for blood. They really don't care who it is, they just want an enemy, they want someone to blame. Many are screaming for Palestinian blood, and they are most likely uninvolved. It just drives me crazy how truly ignorant and intolerant people still are.

And the United States isn't innocent. It hasn't been innocent since it's inception. The history books only tell the half truth, an American tradition that the modern media are all too happy to continue. A lot of the world hates us, mostly because we look out for our own interests. Very little of our aid to other nations is a peace keeping gesture, most is either to cover our political asses (Israel) or to cover our financial asses (all other middle eastern conflicts, and many others) We have really looked out for ourselves and very little else, and the people on the shitty end of that stick are angry.

Now I fear that we will go to war, not to try to "correct" this wrong, but because the leaders of this country are looking out for thei own butts. I don't think that they are concerned as much with the world looking at us as cowards (which they wont, unless they already do) as they are worried about the "American public" thinking that they, personally, are cowards. I hear and see people all over the country already trying to provoke Bush into action. I saw one person on the news say "I just hope that we have a president like Regan or Truman. Someone with the balls to go all out and get our revenge for this." I just hope that this isn't what is percieved as the American attitude after this catastrophe.

As for personal recovery for all of you, I highly recommend my preferred method of therapy: A journal. I started it in the wake of the breakup with my girlfriend of 3 years, and I continue it as a record of my thoughts and above all, a way of working through them. It's an online journal, which makes it low maintenence and I suggest that if you're looking for any kind of outlet, this is the way to go.
http://www.livejournal.com

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What part of CO, Lasombra?

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I know this is off topic, but I live in lower colorado, near Pueblo and Cortez

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"Oh, it's *you* again. What is this fixation you have for tails? Leggo the tail!"

[This message has been edited by Lasombra (edited September 12, 2001).]

First, I hope you all find your peace with this. I have watched American Innocence die many times in my life. Kenedy, Viet Nam, Watergate (hell, before a lot of your times...) the Oklahoma Federal Building courtesy of Mr. McVia and Mr. Nichols... It always strikes me how once we find "THE ONE PERSON" who is responsible and exact revenge, we forget why we were targeted. We forget that there are people willing to die to take a few of us down. That is scary.

John Bergin once wrote in his introdution to J. O'Barr's "The Crow":
"One day you are going to lose everything you have. Nothing will prepare you for that day. Not faith... Not religion... Nothing. When someone you love dies, you will know emptiness... you will know what it is to be completely and utterly alone....So, if anything take this lesson from the Crow: Think about what you have to loose."

I take it all personally anymore. When I think about what I have to loose. And I WON'T forget.

Andrew Morris aka BamfKat.
ICQ #: 117071682

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First, I hope you all find your peace with this. I have watched American Innocence die many times in my life. Kenedy, Viet Nam, Watergate (hell, before a lot of your times...) the Oklahoma Federal Building courtesy of Mr. McVia and Mr. Nichols... It always strikes me how once we find "THE ONE PERSON" who is responsible and exact revenge, we forget why we were targgeted. We forget that there are people willing to die to take a few of us down. That is scary.

John Bergin once wrote in his introduction to J. O'Barr's "The Crow":
"One day you are going to lose everything you have. Nothing will prepare you for that day. Not faith... Not religion... Nothing. When someone you love dies, you will know emptiness... you will know what it is to be completely and utterly alone....So, if anything take this lesson from the Crow: Think about what you have to loose."

I take it all personally any more. When I think about what I have to loose. And I WON'T forget.

Andrew Morris aka BamfKat.
ICQ #: 117071682


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First off, these terrorists are nothing but cowards. It does not take bravery to sow the seeds of fear and hatred. It does not take bravery to mass murder thousands of innocent civilians. And it does not take a brave man to impersonally target an area filled with daycare centers and working men and women whose screams the terrorists cannot hear and whose pain they can?t see. I cannot help but think that the terrorists are running scared. They believed that they could cow the United States, forcing us into chaos. And they did.
But they also created a sense of community. They fostered a feeling of common society that transcended race and religion as people pulled together to face down this horrific event. Even here in Cincinnati, people have flooded to the Hoxworth Blood Center with offers to give blood to be shipped to New York. People want to donate money, and many churches are offering prayer services for those involved. It was a profound moment last evening as my family went to BW3?s to eat dinner. The entire establishment fell silent as President Bush began to speak. When he vowed that we would hunt down and punish those who committed these acts one man yelled out, ?Hell, YEAH!? and the rest of the diners burst into cheers.
The images broadcast on the television were sickening. I?m afraid and angry. Angry that our feeling of security has been forcibly ripped from us. Angry that so many precious lives have been lost. And angry that I am afraid. My father is a pilot for Delta, and he was lucky that he wasn?t scheduled to work until afternoon. He?s home, safe, until tomorrow. We hope that when he reports for work tomorrow he continues to be safe. But too many people haven?t been so lucky, losing friends, parents, children and spouses to a fearful death. So I send out a prayer for those who are in pain, for those who are now alone and missing loved ones, and for those who aren?t in pain anymore. And I pray for answers.


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Essence of Elf: "BAMF- Kick it up a notch!"

This is what we know now. Two planes smashed into both towers. One plane crashed into the Pentagon. One plane crashed in a field. The planes that crashed into the WTC were successful. The plane that crashed into the Pentagon was originally meant to kill the President and destroy the White House. Now the plane that crashed into the field...
A man called his wife from the plane to tell her what was happening. They confrenced the call with a 911 operator. That is when he learned of the other kamikaze like attacks. That man told the other passengers what was going on and what was going to happen. They willingly chose to die in order to keep from being used as a weapon.
Also. A bomb was found on the Washington Bridge before it went off killing untold thousands trying to get home. An attack against Air Force One failed to work; details unrevealed.
Out of all the carnage the terrorist/monsters only succeeded once. Only ONE goal was accomplished. We were very lucky yesterday people, our entire nation was almost crippled by a dozen people who were willing to die to accomplish their goals armed with one inch razor blades, and it may have been saved by one man who learned about the WTC and the people who followed him into death.
Now the truly sad part. We are all at war. This is just the beginning. The next attack can be anywhere at anytime and kill anybody. It is time to unite and stand firm. To put all, ALL, differences behind. If we do not stand together now and forever this can be the beginning of the end of the United States of America. I actually heard people talking today where I work about moving their kids to Canada to keep them away from the draft just in case it comes back. They were ready to jump ship now, at the very begging of the coming conflict.
I am ready to die like that man, giving my life so that our freedom stays intact. I am a natural cynic, but I do believe in the overall inner strength of Americans.
Jeremy Glick, the man who died to prevent the terrorists from killing even more people, should never be forgotten.

Also, nation wide people who have ancestry from the Middle East, or only happen to have a dark complexion, are being harassed and attacked by frightened fools. These are our brothers and sisters who have been in this country for generations. Most have a deeper respect for our rights then those of us who consider ourselves ?real? Americans because they know what it is like to have no freedom. This is what the bastards wanted. If we are to survive that means that this type of atrocity has to stop immediately. I call on all of you who read this to speak up publicly and openly against all of those you see submitting to fear and ignorance. We will be harassed also, and we may be physically attacked, but we have to do everything that we can to stop this degeneration of our society IMEDIATELY! No matter the place, no matter the circumstance, no matter the person. The situation is too fragile now and evil spreads when good people do nothing.


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"Beware the fury of a patient man"-John Dryden


"What does it profit God to take the young, rending the cloth of his blessing undone?"-Griffin Silver
"Nothing is certain but the unforeseen."-fortune cookie.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hsu:
hsu wishes Nightcrawler was real.

Think about it. He coulda been soooooooooo helpful.

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You're right. Him and a lot of the others.

Jean, Psylocke, Scott, Wolvie, Kitty, Rouge, Storm (? Flying from above maybe), Angel (same as Storm.) Wolfsbane (? Sniff people out maybe?), Xaiver to name a few.

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"Listen very closely. There is a sound I want you to hear it's-" *BAMF!*