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Okay this is not my artwork, I stumbled upon this. After some of the debate that has been going on I thought this might be interesting to some of you.
http://www.geocities.com/area51/corr...ghtcrawler.jpg
I found the pic at : http://www.geocities.com/marcelgom/index2.htm
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Well, sir, I don't like it! He's scaly!
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He looks like a cross between Mystique and Sabertooth.
Which is probably because Mys is his mom and Saber was hinted at being his dad.
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I like it stylisticly (sp?) the guy that drew it is obviosly talented and some of the ideas are great. Nice costume patteren but I would ditch the scales.
What I don't like are the pupils, they make him look strange, like something out of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
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Eek! He looks like that scary blue Muppet. Not Grover. Not Cookie Monster. The big hairy one with the big, black eyebrows... and the triangle-shaped head. Does anyone know what I mean?
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Oh for the love of....That is just bad taste!
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Okay after getting over my shock and disgust, I'm starting to warm up to the basic idea. NC really should be a tragically ugly son-of-a-bitch in the movie. If the movie NC is the offspring of the movie Sabretooth and Mystique, as that painting suggests, he probably won't look too good. Particularly if he takes after his dad. A dude who looks like that is definately going to have problems. People aren't gonna say "Aw lookit the fuzzy elf!" They're gonna scream and reach for the pitchforks and torches. If he was this really gorgeous blue guy, that wouldn't happen. He wouldn't have as much pathos.
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um if i say i want the gorgeous blue guy does that mak me superfical? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/confused.gif
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I don't like the scales. He does look like he's just come from "Thriller". Looks a little too much like animal for me.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much all for the gorgeous blue guy.
And I think having a tail is enough to make people reach for their pitchforks no matter HOW good-looking you are, don't you think?
-Rex
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I love to see handsome guys too, but when I see those photo manipulations in which some handsome actor is colored blue, I just thought it looked weird. I've always thought of Kurt being rather montrous. If he was too good-looking, he'd just be Archangel. Now that painting BC posted is way too ugly, but I think its on the right track. If he's not a freaky scary lookin dude a lot of what makes him work as a character is gone. That is all my opinion of course.
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*studies it* Well, the body-type was well chosen... *studies it some more, studiously ignoring the face...*
Mm. Anyway.
I agree with Drags, but I also agree with Spatula Gal. If they wanted to introduce him in the movie as Mystique and Sabertooth's son, he'd be much more believable as... that.
But my take on wether Kurt's sposed to be monstrous is that people might be more inclined to hate him for being good-looking A) because the more religious types might figure him for a sort of incubus (or something. Yeah.) or B) because he's just damn good-looking in spite of fur, fangs, and a tail (or perhaps because of said features) and there's a lot of guys who might feel threatened by that. And don't mind me if that didn't make any sense. I'm sorta tired. *dozes off...... >snort<* Gack, I'm awake. o_o
*coughs* Of course, all this is balanced with my basic theory that any character I actually like in a story/comic/novel will always be played by the worst possible person they could ever find. And the makeup will ultra-suck. Just watch.
Jyuu-chan
(Devoid of optimism.)
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spatula Gal:
I think it would be cool for viewers not familiar with the character to see this freaky, Mystique-like dude who turns out to be a good-guy.
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I agree with Spatula Gal...although I would like to see a sexy fuzzy elf on the big screen... http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Does the guy that made this have a web site?
It's a pretty good pic, but i think it goes too far in making him monsterous... With this amount of make-up the actor wouldn't be able to do much more than snarl.
I think, less eyebrow action, smaller fangs (more like dracula, less like a werewolf), lose the wolverine-mutton-chops, and a narrower nose..
And make sure he's BLUE!!!!
(Still, all in all i would prefer a fuzzy semi-handsome guy too.)
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I'm not saying he should look like that painting. I don't like the hands and it looks like the artist just stuck Sabretooth's head on and colored it . And his skin is pasty lavender when it should be indigo blue. But one thing I think is cool is that his "costume" appears to be part of his skin. That's very similar to the movie-Mystique look. Maybe he has a limited shape-shifting power that is just in his skin he and can alter his coloring like a cameleon, hence shadow-blend. I'm imagining my own movie-Kurt who has blue/black fur and red hair/fur/scales growing about his shoulders and chest. He probably doesn't wear a lot of clothes because they would interfer with his powers.
I just think he won't be believable in a live action movie if he's just an actor painted blue (then again, I have never seen Garble's Stephen Dorff as Kurt, so I could be wrong. )or if he's totally cute like the Evo elf.
They could take a handsome actor and make him look freaky, so when people hate and fear him its believable, but in close-ups you can see he's really an attractive fellow. They seem to have done it well with Mystique; there was an attractive actress underneath those scales, but she was still pretty damned freaky. I think it would be cool for viewers not familiar with the character to see this freaky, Mystique-like dude who turns out to be a good-guy.
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I must add, that scales sort of makes sense, since fur is awfully hard to do convincingly on screen and they already did Mystique with scales. this picture is rather smartly thought out, it should lose the facial hair a little though...
If that director has any brains in his head he won't go for the "cute fuzzy" look of course. He'll go for the original Cockrum design, the GSX#1 look. And he was a real ugly devil that early on.
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ELWING, SPATULA a part of me sees your argument and agrees with ya. The other part wants em to follow the 'Good looking dude who just happens to be blue, furry, have fangs etc.' paradigm.
Why, you ask?
A part of it is 'cause that's the Nightcrawler i've gotten used to. Another REALLY big reason is so that the movie Kurt can expand & solidify on something the comic and Evolution Kurt already have in spades.
FEMALE FAN SUPPORT. The average guy/lay person not familiar with the X-mythos might think Nightcrawler's cool regardless. If Kurt is monstrous (unattractive monstrous) I think you'll lose out on a lot of the future fanbase that Nightkiddo seems to be establishing. (I imagine that as they get older, the curiosity of the average 8-13 yr old Nightkiddo/Evolution fan will lead to them eventually following the adventures of the comic book Kurt.)
(I know, it's kinda silly to look that far ahead!) I want a Kurt that's going to have the best chance to attract as many new fans as possible! Thus emphasizing the need for, and importance of, Nightcrawler in the main Marvel Universe.
( Also makes it harder for any incoming hot-shot writers to try and make their mark on X-history by killing Kurt off! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif )
Oh and GARBLE here's the link to the cool site that pic came from...X-MEN 2
BAMF!
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I agree 100 percent with ya, Bamfie! I think a monstrous Kurt will not really add anything to his character and will drive away kids who have fallen for Nightkiddo. I'm not saying he should be a blue Keanu Reeves, but an attractive guy he should be. He'd be hated for the differences he has anyway. And 'sides, if they made him Mystique's and Sabretooth's *shudder* son, he wouldn't be really ugly. Mystique was a beautiful woman and Sabretooth wasn't that bad. The genes would pass down. I really thought the scales on Mystique were a gimmick to show her shapeshifting power. If you watch really close, those things ripple when she shifts. It's like they are flipping over or something. Sooo...If they are a part of her power, Kurt wouldn't have them because his powers are different.
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Speaking as one who got sucked in by the Evolution Kurt, I must agree with the "good looking Nightcrawler" contigent.
I envision some shots in the movie of Nightcrawler in the darkness. Glowing eyes. Fluid movements. A creature that sticks to the darkest shadows and glides along walls and ceilings. Initially quite frightening. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif
Then, as the movie progresses, the viewers are introduced to good looking guy with a swashbuckling attitude and a fairly positive outlook on life. We get drawn toward this character who is being unfairly persecuted. A man who is just as human as the rest of us. Someone who, without some of his mutations, could live a very normal life, and is denied that.
Oh, we can still dream, can't we?
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Is that you there, or just another demon that I meet?
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I like the way you think Elfy! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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I have to go with the semi-attractive Kurt supporters on this. I think people would be freaked out by his appearance (blue fur, tail, feet, hands, fangs) regardless of who is wearing the costume. They can show Kurt lurking in the shadows and make him very mysterious and creepy. However, at some point, they are going to try to win the audience over with Kurt's charm and personality. It would be much easier for movie-goers to gravitate to a NC who doesn't look SO demonic or naturally scarey. Am I making any sense?
Hmmm, maybe I'm just trying to justify why they should have a cute Kurt! Oh well, at least I'm not alone!