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ok, i was drawing random faces in my sketchbook for class, and one kinda said nightcrawler to me, so i finished it up with markers quickly to make sure he looked good blue.... i am thinking i may refine it, get my own design for him that can be used either for animation or comics, ( i have a coupe short ideas i wish to do in either a comic strip or animation) the only difference being that he'd get more shading for the comic version.
anywho, this is what it looks like so far, top, coloured, the bottom the sketch in my book that started it... i included that one partially because i flubbed the nose when inking and it and didn't want to re-draw it... so the nose is off, but you still get the basic idea. any input would be appreciated, this is by no means the final design, it is merely a starting point, and i figured this was the best place to come for advice to get him just right.
http://www.bronzepig.com/nightie.jpg
http://www.bronzepig.com/nightie2.jpg
so now you've seen them... *my* initial thought is the nose is too long and thin, and the eyebrows a touch high, and the hair definatley needs work... but i woul;d like to hear what you all think as well.
why oh why does he have to have curly hair?? i mean sure it looks good on him, but have you any idea how hard it is to draw when you are trying to keep it simple enough for animating???? guess that's why they straigtened it for evolution...
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[This message has been edited by Nocturne (edited November 05, 2001).]
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I think it looks great, as long as you go for the cartoonie look. With that style, its hard to tell what the mistakes are. But it does look wonderful, despite the curly hair problem. I think you did great with that. Trust me, I have tons of problems drawing curly hair too. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Yeah, I would have to say I like your design better than those found in Evolution.
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It looks wonderful! Keep it simple though, like in the sketch. Do please show us what other ideas you have in mind, maybe we can come up with something to help you out with the curly hair prob.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lotusson:
Yeah, I would have to say I like your design better than those found in Evolution.
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eh, are you *serious*? i mean, the Evo designs i think are terrific, and i aspire to design characters that well... I like the somewhat styalized, but retaining realism at the same time kinda thing they have going on. so that comment is incredibly flattering, really...
but come on folks, does this design generally match your idea of Nightcrawler? be brutal and honest, tear it apart. i mean it. it's the only way i can make it better. if something bugs you about it, say so... trust me, after a few years of art college and having a gallery on elfwood since 96, i can take it.
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Tear it apart?! Tear what apart?! There's nothing to tear!
I like the sketch (the bottom pic). It looks very good!
Now if you had other ideas and pics you wanna consider, hey, by all means, please share: we are at your service and alll eyes http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nghtcrwlr:
Tear it apart?! Tear what apart?! There's nothing to tear!
I like the sketch (the bottom pic). It looks very good!
Now if you had other ideas and pics you wanna consider, hey, by all means, please share: we are at your service and alll eyes http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
well you guys are just no help at all! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif
erm, ok, i guess i'll just refine it a touch and come back... today in class(it was a lecture class) i drew some of the guys who had curly hair, so i think i will be able to get a workable hair-do from that...
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Wow nice drawing skills http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
You think you could help in drawing a couple of images for like a small comic?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Foxdie:
Wow nice drawing skills http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
You think you could help in drawing a couple of images for like a small comic?
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sure, i really want to develop my comic drawing skills, with the animation industry in the shape it is, i figure it is good to have a backup option, but i need practice... like i said, i have a couple short ideas i would like to do, one of them featuring Nightie, th other jsut a story with 100% original characters (well the designs will be original anyway, the story is not), but if you have another Nightcrawler one, bring it on! just, maybe wait till Christmas break, (December 14-Jan 7) ok? i have a lot of work to contend with for school as well.
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[This message has been edited by Nocturne (edited November 06, 2001).]
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Cool stuff!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nocturne:
well you guys are just no help at all! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif
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Well, if you insist that we try to find some room for improvement, then here goes.
I agree with you about the nose and bringing the eybrows down a bit. I'd also say you could de-pronounce the line between his cheekbones and his chin. And if his ears were to be fatter at the base and narrower at the tips, they'd have a more elven appearance.
As for the trouble with animating curly hair, keep in mind that you can get away with defining mostly just the outlines of his head, rather than idividual locks. I suppose it depends on how stylized you want it to be though...
I'm in awe of your skills. I envy you sooooo much.
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[This message has been edited by Garble (edited November 06, 2001).]
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Wow, that looks good! It looks like the grown up version of Kurt from Evolution!!! I wish I could draw like that! Hey, would you be willing to draw a pic for me for one of my xmen rpgs that I'm in?
Lauren
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In my humble wee opinion it's Kurt around his twenties. Hmmm... I like the nose (correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the nose shape change some in your twenties and then continue to ever grow?). And that smile! I wonder what he's thinking... Great work!
p. s. Jill, why didn't you tell me you had animations on that site? Now, I don't like you as much as before... But that doesn't matter, for on the whole I love you so much more after seing those animations! I don't have any words.
By the way, do you have Danish origin? I mean your last name and Metalsvinet (De. das Metallschwein).
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nocturne:
well you guys are just no help at all! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif
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of course we are! flattering is a very thin for you! cause i liked you're scketch very much is funny and cartooning, you're very talented and it has nothing to do with evolution, this is the original nightcrawler, the nose looks fine cause he supposed to have caucasian features, perhaps you should try another poses and different styles, a full body scketch would help, the coloring is very awesome.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gnahrf:
In my humble wee opinion it's Kurt around his twenties. Hmmm... I like the nose (correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the nose shape change some in your twenties and then continue to ever grow?). And that smile! I wonder what he's thinking... Great work!
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yeah it does.. the bigger the nose the older someone typically appears... that's why most anime characters have teeny tiny noses i think, makes em look even younger and more elfin... but i'm not realy into drawing that style.
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p. s. Jill, why didn't you tell me you had animations on that site? Now, I don't like you as much as before... But that doesn't matter, for on the whole I love you so much more after seing those animations! I don't have any words.
By the way, do you have Danish origin? I mean your last name and Metalsvinet (De. das Metallschwein).
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well i'm sure i've mentioned i am an animation student... i should hope i have an animation or two to show for it... http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
yup, I am half Danish, (the other half, my mothers side, is your basic European mutt, english, german, irish, scottish, dutch (dutch royalty, actually) etc... all mixed together) i can actually trace my ancestry back to Eric the Red, a true Viking, i am! at Christmas we celebrate the Danish way, with goose, and rice pudding (nothinlg like the brittish kind, it's actually mostly whipped cream) and red cabbage, carmalized potatoes etc etc.. and the next morning danish creppes and open faced sandwiches. good stuff!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Garble:
Cool stuff!
Well, if you insist that we try to find some room for improvement, then here goes.
I agree with you about the nose and bringing the eybrows down a bit. I'd also say you could de-pronounce the line between his cheekbones and his chin. And if his ears were to be fatter at the base and narrower at the tips, they'd have a more elven appearance.
As for the trouble with animating curly hair, keep in mind that you can get away with defining mostly just the outlines of his head, rather than idividual locks. I suppose it depends on how stylized you want it to be though...
I'm in awe of your skills. I envy you sooooo much.
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ah, finally, someone who is helping! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif
thanks for the tips, i can see what you are saying abotu the ears, i will definatley try a version or two with those pointers in mind... as for the cheeknone thing, it shows up a bit more in the drawing because i use the line form the chin to help place the cheekbones, normally i wouldn''t draw that much of it... and i shall get some expression and full body ones done over the weekend...
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i think if everyone told you to change bits and pices of ur charater then it really wouldnt be urs if your happy with it than happy faces all around love! like u drawing is me lifeline keeps me happy as well as others i see nothing to change on him hes blue and fuzzy and has that smile lol
keep drawing love!!
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Just out of curiousity how long did it take you to draw that, how long would it take you to draw one?
Also do you use any Instant Messaging programs like MSN Messenger or ICQ?
Me and a close friend (MoonBeamDancer) were looking for a skilled artist to perhaps bring our fics to life (see "Revenge of the Fanfics" post for Rei's (moonbeam dancer" and see "Traveller" for mine)
TIA
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Foxdie:
Just out of curiousity how long did it take you to draw that, how long would it take you to draw one?
Also do you use any Instant Messaging programs like MSN Messenger or ICQ?
Me and a close friend (MoonBeamDancer) were looking for a skilled artist to perhaps bring our fics to life (see "Revenge of the Fanfics" post for Rei's (moonbeam dancer" and see "Traveller" for mine)
TIA
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as per first question, the sketch, 5 minutes, to colour it, 20-30 minutes.
second question, i have icq, 15755797
it depends on how long it is, i will have to read them and i can let you know then, it could be a lot of work, sooo... you time is money kinda thing. i like to help when i can but there are limits
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