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Nice one! Thanks for that.... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
For those who don't know about this site, click on Comedy and go to the bottom for an unexpected treat. (3 Vinnie clips but no drumming. you'll see...)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL [img]biggrin.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by Derek DeFields:
For those who don't know about this site, click on Comedy and go to the bottom for an unexpected treat. (3 Vinnie clips but no drumming. you'll see...)
...and he's a drummer for Jesus?
LOL!!!
LOL. Is that really Vinnie saying all that??
I've heard these before, meaning the Vinnie 'wav' files.
Sorry Folks but this one angers me. This is a classic example as to why I am happy not to be in the public spot-light/scrutiny the way Vinnie and others are.
First of all, when was this taped? 5, 10 years ago? So was it prior to him following the Way? Was he aware he was being taped? Yes Vinnie looses his temper and misses the mark "like each and everyone of us". Is anyone surprised? Would anyone of us enjoy being exposed this way in our worst moments? Because he's famous, he deserves it? I don't get it... It's not fair to Vinnie and wouldn't be for anyone else either. I feel the guy posted it on his Web site as an act of revenge, since he wouldn't allow him to tape that evening...
Sorry guys, I had to say it...
Later,
My theory is Vinnie is forcing the guy to tape over the stuff he got caught bootlegging, thus he is not doing it without Vinnie's knowledge.
Either way, I think it's funny. Sorry. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Yeah come on now, it's hi-larious. That very attitude is the same attitude that makes me love his playing.
I agree with beat hit. Like anything else, the web can be a fantastic place for connecting with the best people have to offer (like the vast majority on this board). This invasion of Vinnie's privacy is clearly on the low side of the human experience.
Ok then, let's say that same guy records and posts some 'wav' Files of Erskoman in a not so positive moment/mood...
My question is this, who on HOD would take the time to post it? Just wondering....
im w/ you there beat hit... some guys here are just plain s*u**d.... [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]
no human here or anywhere else is perfect, we screw up sometimes and its not fun to make it a basis of your character...
these board's is great for sharin infos/love for the instrument and their players... but sometimes people here are careless, self centered and selfish to even do something nice... [img]mad.gif[/img]
Sound likes someone named Sergio was getting in Vinnie's shit......
Which you dont do unless you are playing on that level.........Who the f*** is this Sergio guy anyway?????
The second part of the argument show VC getting pissed about some bootlegging business....Which is his TOTAL right.....
Now the fact someone recorded this is kind of shitty.......
But it was in the past and I'm sure that those folks got what they deserved.....
Everybody gets pissed off sometimes......
I was thinking that it might have been Sergio Belotti, the dude that runs Vinnie's website and also teaches at Berklee, but then again it could just have been any old Sergio... [img]smile.gif[/img]
Well.... I'd be careful not to be too harsh on Derek on this matter as well... He's one of the coolest guys here on HOD... It shows in his Posts so...
Peace bro...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 11, 2003 03:00 PM: Message edited by: beat Hit ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Still regardless if it is Sergio Belotti.....So what he teaches at Berklee.He runs a site that never gets updated..He sure as hell does not compare musically to folks like VC......Quote:
Originally posted by Burzmali:
I was thinking that it might have been Sergio Belotti, the dude that runs Vinnie's website and also teaches at Berklee, but then again it could just have been any old Sergio... [img]smile.gif[/img]
Who in there right f'ing mind would do something like that...
I'm not in any way harshing on Derek......
I listened to the clip it was funny and inspiring...I mean like it's been said already..Vinnie's attitude is why he plays the way he plays..It's his personality that gives his drumming the "garlic"......
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 11, 2003 03:42 PM: Message edited by: ptrack ]</font>
Well, I don't care to know who recorded them. But who's hosting it and making it public, that's another matter...
Just my opinion anyway...
Jeezuz H Christ... someone PLEASE tell Dennis about the Atkins diet. The guy is going to explode!!
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In a way, I think Vinnie would be happy about HOD because the music samples are like free advertisements. I bought CDs and videos that Steve and others have recommended if I didn't already have them. HOD gives people a chance to hear a sample and see if they are interested in the CD or video like the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert. Believe me, I have bought many CDs and videos/DVDs of Vinnie due to HOD. I'm sure others had done so as well.
What does Derek have to do with any of this? He just said listen to the clips...big deal. The second wave reminded me A LOT of what I saw at the Potato in January with the dude video taping. Clearly, this is Vinnie's Achilles' heel.
Someone said this a long time ago...if Vinnie just put out a video, he might make some cash and settle all of this once for all.
My take...in a whole new technological age, there is NO WAY any artist can be certain they aren't being recorded in some way. If someone wants to record, they are going to do it. That guy (or guys) were just stupid and got caught.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 12, 2003 04:59 AM: Message edited by: PocketPlayer ]</font>
Kind of wish I hadnt downloaded that now. I dont get it though.....What about all the vinnie content on this site ? Has anything ever been said ?
#1 I mentionned the name due to the way some responded to this, I wanted to make sure we don't start throwing stones at one another.
#2 I got angry not because there is a site with clips on it, but because Vinnie is being exposed unfairly.
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"Vinnie Garlic-olaiuta"...i LIKE that...
Those soundbytes are STILL being hosted?!! Gimme a break.
We did a HUMONGOUSLY long topic on this one almost a year ago or so, so no point in going on any further except to say that it is my understanding that this is prior to Vinnie's "change of heart" [around sometime in '98].
I must admit, when i first heard those almost a yr. ago, i also immediately thought it might be Belotti [who is mentioned on there by the guy who's doing the recording, if i recall correctly, saying something weak to the Vinman like, "but Sergio said it was OK" (DUH) -implying that it's NOT necessarily Sergio-"Schmergio" [img]wink.gif[/img] himself doing the taping.]
Derek finds it funny - no problemo, good for him, that's his perogative, & a result of his take on the matter, & also his disposition...totally understandable...& yes, he is still a "cool HODer"/not that he's gonna lose sleep over any of this [img]wink.gif[/img] ]
I guess it IS kinda funny in a way, if you look at it from the "Vinnie-garlic" perspective [statement that i also agree with], altho when i first heard it it kinda took me aback, then p'd me off that someone would do such a thing...to me, doing this BACKFIRED on the clam-head who did it & makes HIMSELF look like the real sheet-stain, instead of intended-victim Vinnie coming out with egg on his face...besides, us die-hard VC fans ain't gonna budge on the position of his playing...& we could care less about the sap[s] who did/do this [img]tongue.gif[/img]
BTW - if someone taped me during one of "my moments" that we ALL have had at SOME point in our ENTIRE lives, whether private OR public, & sometimes justifiable, i'd gladly run for for "A-Hol' Poster-Boy a' da Year" [img]smile.gif[/img]
Just chalk it up to "Vin-tantrum Garlic" [courtesy of Vinnie Garlicuta]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 15, 2003 09:50 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
While I condone any form of pre-madonna act, I don't care if you're a celebrity, the president of america(which pretty much accounts for nothing in my book OH!).
But in sum ways I would side with Vinnie, how would u feel if you've worked your ass off for more than 30 years and sum 15 yr old punk ass kid is trying to break down everyone of your fills and combinations and just murdering them. I'm sure like someone mentioned that there's more to the Vinman than what's writte on a sheet of paper, something that takes him over the edge in comparison to your average drummer, kinda like what Jordan felt when he played against other teams.
If Vinnie doesn't feel the need to release any instructional material(written/visual)then that's HIS PROBLEM, there's already enuff stuff available(and quite recycled I might add!), he's already giving enuff back to the community already with recorded performances and clinics.
"The only secret I know to my success is that I've been blessed by the grace of God and I've tried to be a faithful steward of what he's blessed me with. My advice to someone trying to model my career is that they don't really know me or the ins and outs of why and how I got to where I am, what it entails, or what my life is like. Rather than trying to emulate some else's life, it's good to use someone as a role model for inspiration to a degree. But be yourself because at the end of the day, after all your development, you'll come full circle and all you got is you. No matter where you go, there you are. And really the thing that is going to separate you from others, aside from certain amounts of developed ability, is your identity. Also, be honest with yourself and know that if you have something to offer, really know what it is that you have to offer and believe in it. Believe in it and just keep going"-Vinnie C
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 18, 2003 07:48 AM: Message edited by: Bozzio ]</font>
I thought the sound bytes were funny when I first heard them. Now I realize they're just the pleas of a man passionate about his art. If Vinnie wants to protect his mystique that's his right. If Vinnie wants to obfuscate his chops by allowing very little video of himself released that, too, is his prerogative. I was gonna say those recordings neither 'add to' nor 'detract from' Vinnie's image as far as I'm concerned. But now that I think about it I think they add to his legend, and I respect the guy more than ever. After he's gone everyone'll be telling stories of how much he disliked being videoed and it will all seem quaint and charming in retrospect, not unlike Buddy Rich's fabled gruff exterior.