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I went out the the local street racing hangout this past weekend. I got some good kills.
My big question is how on earth can I get traction? I am still on my stock tires, but good lord.
I raced a gtp superchaged grand prix. He was boosting at 12 psi. dead even until 4th then I pulled a car lenght.
then I went three way with a 2000 or so ws6 t/a and a 2000 or so Z. from a stop light it was only a matter of seconds before they were about 4 car lengths ahead of me. When I caught up all three of us took off at 25 mph. I walked the z and I got the ws6 by a car and a half up to 120 mph.
later I ran a 96-98 z at 15 or so. He didn't stand a chance.
It really hurt my feelings when we took off from a light and I was so far back. I seriously cant get traction until middle of third. Any suggestions on street tires w/o spending an arm and a leg???
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If you are at 6psi I call bullshit.
I've seen a bone stock 00 WS6 beat a TT supra with Downpipe and Exhaust. This was from a 40MPH roll. LS1 equipped WS6's will kill a Supercharged GSR unless that GSR is 9psi or beyond.
If you are at higher boost, then I believe you somewhat http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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JRSC@6PSI, AEM Intake, Greddy Exhaust, DC 4-2-1 Header, JR BTC, Cartech 20005, B&M Edge shifter, A/F-Boost Gauges, H&R OE Sport Springs, KYB AGX Adustable Struts
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I never talked to the guy in the ws6 so I have no idea if he was on it. I did talk to the Z he said he was really surprised.
I have seen a stock ws6 on slicks pull a 12.9 so I know I couldn't hang.
That wasnt the point though what are good tires that I wont burn up half way through 3rd?
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I call bullshit on this one too...
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Easy on the BS buttons boys...
There is one variable that you are forgetting here... DRIVER SKILL LEVEL !!! The cars that he mentioned may very well be capable of stomping a mud-hole in his GSR... however, if the pilots suck... he may still win. Also, as he mentioned, if his opponent wasn't really "Racing", then he wins automatically... at least to him.
Lets save the BS bombs for those who claim they have emperical data or concrete indisputable proof that they run XX.XX in the quarter mile... kinda like a guy did here a few weeks ago.
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Motorvations Motorsports
(205) 854-8458
'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph
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Stock w/ bolt ons I was able to do a 14.7 in the quarter. The charger feels increadibly strong. A buddy of mine had an ls/vtec with type R pistons and put down 14.3's on street tires. That was in a 99 civic ex body.
He rode in my car that night with me. and said that my car pulled twice as hard as his ls/vtec.
Thank you Jim for not assuming things. I used to be gsr_integra. When I got the charger on I changed my name.
Could someone just tell me what kind of tires would be decient!!
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Z10 Radius Rods. I've heard some people recommending them. Otherwise, look into some ES motor mounts to reduce wheel hop.
http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/z10.html
http://www.z10eng.com/
Check it out and let us know how it goes!
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6 psi JRSC GSR: 3" intake -> 217 hp/155 ft-lbs.
New: Endyn stepper, GSS342
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Agreed.
ES mounts and TIRES!! Both will do a ton for traction but one without the other wont be as impressive.
To add to the list any good stiffer shock replacement, real clutch, and eventually.. Quaiffe fron Jim http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Traction is always a big problem with a FWD car...
ES mounts help tremendously. In addition, there are adjustable shocks/struts that will assist in properly planting the tire contact patch to the pavement... not to mention the traction control systems from Moroso and Z10. Z10 claims that you can drive on the street with their set up, whereas Moroso says it should be used at the track only... funny thing is, these two products look almost identical !!!
Either way... those things should help.
Lastly, get a good set of drag radials and go street fighting.
... just try and be safe.
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Motorvations Motorsports
(205) 854-8458
'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph
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I really don't have a problem with wheel hop! Where could I get ES mounts? How much will they run me? I plan to get a Quaiffe in the future, whem money permits. How much lighter is a type R flywheel and is it worth it?
right now I'm sitting on skunk2 springs and a set of tokico blue shocks. I wish they were adjustable.
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I just installed (had installed http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)a Quaife, ES motor mounts and an R flywheel. The Quaife makes a world of difference with absolutely no ill side effects. The motor mounts definitely help as well, and the additional vibration transfer isn't bad (and only sitting at idle), but you will become aware of the "loose" items in your interior. The R flywheel made a noticeable difference in reving the engine with no impact on drivability - I'm happy with it but if I did it over again, I'd probably go lighter.
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For the ES mounts, try Summit Racing for $37.95. The stock # is ENS-16-1106. If there's a better price, I'd like to know too! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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6 psi JRSC GSR: 3" intake -> 217 hp/155 ft-lbs.
New: Endyn stepper, GSS342
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Everyone always talks about w06 firebirds and camaro ss's like they easily hit mid-13's stock.
That maybe so with a good driver, but I've been to the drag strip about 6 times now and I've only seen one (out of a dozen or so stock ones I noticed and watched) even break into the 13's (that one got a 13.9).
I've hit 13.9 with 6psi boost on a very stock JRSC GSR setup. I fully believe that a medium-good driver in a 6psi JRSC GSR can take a stock w06/ss with a medium-bad driver.
As for controlling wheelspin, every part (tires, shocks, etc...) helps, but it comes down to your feet and what you do with the clutch and gas.
If you're spinning, you're not accelerating as fast as you could be.
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Greg Holden
96 GSR, JSRC @10psi, All the Goodies!
Best 1/4 ==> 13.356 @ 105.92mph (non-drag street tires!)
My JRSC Install Site
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Thank you guys, I know my car is strong. I also know that BALD michelins hurt. Also the charger has been on for 2 weeks now so I still am not use to it. I'll get good with the gas and clutch. I have done it before. It's like I jsut bought a whole new car.
I want to thank you guys.. Holden, I couldn't do the install without your site.
How hard are motor mounts to install? are the es just inserts.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SCedGSR:
I also know that BALD michelins hurt. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
[email protected] in the 1/8th on OE Mich XGT's........Gotta love'em! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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1996 Acura Integra GSR, E-MOD Solo2 prepped.
1998 Ford F-150, BPU+ (K&N drop in!)
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So your on BALD stock Michelin death traps??
Definitely need tires. I could corner better on my Potenzas in the rain then with the OE rubber when it's dry.
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damn them audi's are pretty fuckin fast! one (i think it was an A6 or A8) just came up to me tonight and punched it without me knowing and it was pretty hard to pass it untill about the middle of third gear. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/confused.gif
SORRY this was off topic of the thread but i didnt want to start another one and i wanted to let it out http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Turismo: are you serious about potenza's being that good in the rain? How much do they tend to run.
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