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The next Star Wars movie is going to be called "Episode II: Attack of the Clones".
God damn, that is one bad title. It sucks donkey dick and I feel stupider after reading it.
I guess the plot isn't much of a mystery anymore, oh, and Jar Jar Binks will definately be returning, along with supposedly memorable characters like "Dexter Jettsetter" and "Elian Sleazebaggano". No, I'm serious.
The primary purpose of Star Wars now is as a two hour show reel for all the latest merchandise. That's why the tosser is shooting on video; I mean, would you waste perfectly good 35mm film on a f*cking advertisment?!?
Digital film actually and yes that is a bit of a wank title lacking in imagination, however I love all the star wars films and seeing that the old menace is in the top ten in world, European and USA all time biggest ever grossing films I think a lot of other people do too.
After all be honest most people watch films to past the time or for a little escapism, filmmakers tend to watch films for more reasons than that.
He's shooting on Sony HD *video* cameras because he doesn't want to go to the trouble and expense of scanning the film, so he can scrawl over every frame with his piss-poor computer graphics.
No such thing as "digital" film. It's an analogue medium by definition.
>> however I love all the star wars films
What, even Return of the Jedi?!? The only people I know who actually like that piece of shite all have learning difficulties.
>> and seeing that the old menace is in the top ten in world, European and USA all time biggest ever grossing films I think a lot of other people do too.
All that proves is there are too many morons in the world. Anyway, they were probably all recidivists and pederasts. I'm pretty sure Star Wars 2 will take less at the box office that Phathom.
Somehow I doubt that, Austin. Simply having the words "Star" and "Wars" placed together in the title means top ten, no questions asked.
Where is "The Cavity" ? Is it in your head? Jedi took less than the original Star Wars. I think Empire may have taken less also. So it's very likely "Attack of the Colognes" will take less than Phantom, especially considering what a pile of unwatchable shit Phantom was.
Of course, I could be totally wrong and all the suckers will line up at the cinema, lubed up, ready for another shafting by Lucas.
Of course Phantom Menace was a bad movie. Hell, it was probably one of the most childish movies I have ever seen. But that didn't hide the fact that you couldn't walk past a movie theater without seeing a shanty town populated by Star Wars fans waiting to buy a ticket to go into a movie to see the Phantom Menace trailer, then walk out and go to the back of the line to wait another two weeks to get thier ticket for the actual movie, 2 years before it actually opened. Are you blind?
People who do that are obviously just hanging around cinemas in the hope of getting near to da kiddies. The fact is, the next Star Turd from the Lucas exhaust pipe won't take as much as the Phantom, regardless of the merits of that movie. Otherwise, how do explain Jedi not being in the top ten?
By the way, if I were Lucas I have that fucker McGregor knee-capped for slagging off Clones a year before it's even been released. Talk about loyalty. Still, what can you expect from a f*cking Scot?
Sigh...these discussions just aint the same without foolmaster...I guess the thing to remember is that Star Wars are kids movies, but most people enjoy a good adventure. Lucas said that ep 2 would not do so well because it is basically a love story...but I am surprised he did'nt take the hint about binks...I'm all for standing by your principles, but if I created a charachter so universally hated, I'd take him out and save myself all the computer generated hassle, and make the fans happy...
The title is dissapointingly feeble.
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[This message has been edited by Generic Skinhead (edited August 08, 2001).]
Okay I'll flow for a sec on this one...The Phantom Menace was a roll-yor-eyes flick, for 90% of the film, but the other 10 was a visual masterpiece.
The Star Wars franchise has never been about making a sci-fi wonder like 2001, it's been about the good guys winning and the visual milestones along the way.
Look at ANH or ROTJ, childish, yet thrilling. Lighten up and enjoy the visuals...Lucas is a gifted filmmaker...just not a good titlist.
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Absolute bollocks!!! Lucas is a gifted film-maker!!!! Lucas is a con artist more like. Have any of you guys actually seen `American Grafitti`? It's a terrible movie.
The magic behind the original `Star Wars` was not lucas it was the visionary story boarding team, the ageing effects artists who re-kickstarted the effects industry with their years of knowledge, the set builders, the costume designers. These were the people who made star wars magical, coupled with the fact that I was only 7 at the time. There can be no more proof of this truism than the empire strikes back which, directed by somebody else, still represents for most people the best of all the star wars movies. Sure we have a soft spot for the first but the second was actually a better film, wasn't it.
Now Lucas returns to directing and, suprise suprise, he's completely lacking the talent which generations of conned movie goers have believed him to have. Wake up and smell the coffee! This guy could even flunk film school!
too true....
I watched American Grafitti the other night on tv. I thought it was quite an good film. I enjoyed it.
P.s I though all the effects team on starwars were students just out of collage. Im sure I read somewhere that not one of them were over 25.
P.s
Dont give Irvin Kershner to much credit Empire was the only decent film he ever made. Remember he did go on to direct the shitfest that was Robocop 2.
Wont it be funny if Attack Of The Clones turns out to be a fantastic film. I cant wait to here what all the bashers have to say then.
Despin Out.
Yeah, maybe Attack of the Clones, Matrix Uploaded and Spiderman will make up for the not so good blockbusters of recent times...Here's hoping!
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Yes but where would all those talented story boarders set designers etc be right now if they hadn't had a film like star wars to work on!! They probably wouldn't have half the recognition they do now, not to mention the money or the satisfaction of being part of one of the biggest film projects in history, not to mention the most successful.
Sure those guy's were talented and so were most of the people behind the scenes but it all don't mean shit without direction and vision. Just because you have all the ingredients it doesn't mean your going to make a great meal. It's a massive project with all manor of departments required to make a star wars film and to make sure the story on paper looks like the story on film you have to be a good director, maybe he's not an actors director but then not every director is and star wars is something different to most films.
I have to say though Star Wars (any of them) isn't my favourite film, it's probably not even in my top ten but I can still appreciate what it is and how much it means to a lot of people ("too many morons in the world" if that's not having your head up your arse I don't know what is!) and what a task it is to see the film through.
> piss-poor computer graphics
That's actually funny! LOL
If it is a good movie, they still should change the title. I could stomach something like "Attack of the Sith".
Kevin Smith should direct it. He knows more about what the fans want than Lucas.
Kevin Smith direct Star Wars. You are joking.
Lucas created this franchise he can do what he likes with it. The guy is a worth hundreds of millions of dollas. He is not making this movie for money He is making these movies for himself and his kids. Not for the internet film geeks.
Thank god he's not making what the fans want. We would have a two hour duel between Darth mall and his not so evil twin/cloned brother. Oh yeah and there would be bullet time. and other cool matrix stuff. And wolverine would be in there too fighting Jay and silent bob. Snooch to the muthafuckin nooch.
Kevin Smith stick with the dick and fart jokes.
Why is Attack Of The Clones such a bad title. None of us have any idea what the film is even about. So how can we pass judgment.
P.s Ive read Kevin Smiths Superman lives script. It wasnt that great. Stck with what you know.
Yeah, And The Empire Strikes Back. Was about the Empire Stiking Back, And The Return Of The Jedi was like about A Jedi Returning. How come these titles arnt slagged of.
not being funny but I think "attack of the clones" is about err clones attcking. Yeah theres probably more to it but I just had to say that. Sorry.
Just a suggestion.
Peace and love.
As the token Starwars anorak on this forum (jes' kiddin wid yu http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif ) I have to post another load of meaningless tripe.
a) Jar Jar Binks is no way as annoying as Anakin Skywalker, who equates (IMO!) to the whale in Hitchhikers, only not as well acted:
ANAKIN
Hey artoo, wow! Wow! What's this big round thing? Round, round g-round, ground! I wonder if it'll be friends with me?
Splatt!
(Crowd cheers)
b)Attack of the Clones my arse. The Empire Strikes Back was called Blue Harvest in production, Return of the Jedi was called Revenge of the Jedi. Georgie Boy was always intent on creating a legend, and I don't mean the story itself. It's not like the making of Fight Club, Toy Story were jealously guarded. And he has succeeded. Starwars. Love it or hate it, you can't ignore it.
Cheers
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George Lucas - Sigue Sigue Sputnik
For those of you old enough will remember the sham which was Sigue Sigue Sputnik. This was a band which mimed stuff which was recorded by session musicians. In short they tried to take the credit for the music which other talented individuals had made. Lucas was probably the first film director to pull of the same stunt.
If any of you have worked near the hollywood end of things you will know, far too clearly, how easy it is for a director not to direct but, instead, to lean upon the infrastructure which surrounds him/her. This `I don't know what do you think` scenario is often played out by weak directors who actually don't have the confidence in themselves. So they buy in some talented people and get their direction from them instead. This is how crap directors like Neil Jordan get to make good films like `The Crying Game`. This is also how the utter crapness which is Mr Lucas manages to hide himself amoung the talent of his co-workers and then, when the films done, step out to take the credit. Bollocks. Where would you rate American Grafitti in comparison to StarWars? Would it even be in your top 100? what about your top 500? Nah it'd probably be at the bottom of your top 1000. So how come the same director has managed to rocket StarWars into your top 100 (perhaps top 10 depending on how much of a fan you are) and yet most of his other films hover around your 1000-er-it's-basically-a-bit-better-than-plan-9 mark? Have I got a point or have I got a point?!
Despin... what I read was that Lucas hired a core group of FX artists who new the old techniques. It was a long gap between such films as King Kong and StarWars and there was a risk that all this effects knowledge would just be lost. Lucas, to his credit, salvaged this with StarWars.
do u have any basis what so ever to trash lucas like that? u havent given any proof that he does that, u just rant and give what u think. american grafitti and star wars are some of the greatest movies ever made, so if u have bad things to say about them, back it up clearly if u can. give something that is truly bad, not just something u didnt particularly care for.