everyone go here and watch the movie.
come back and tell me what you think about it philosophically.
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everyone go here and watch the movie.
come back and tell me what you think about it philosophically.
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It is obviously a video to promote safe sex.
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"Go big or Go home Baaabbbyyy."
Theo - Road Rules 9
why is that? explain what you mean.
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Was this video created before or after Sept. 11, 2001?
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Alex
before.....
....why?
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Safe sex? I saw this as a video to promote nothing but giving into fear. The child never faced his fears, and for not facing his fears *of turning around* he never died. Why didn't he die you might ask? Because he never truly "lived" so to speak. He never did what scared him, never looked at his fears. *nods*
My hypothesis.
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As miserable as life may be I hold it pretty precious...
If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
Or maybe it's a video to keep kids off Crack cuz that's what he looks like he's on, and he just had one helluva trip.
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As miserable as life may be I hold it pretty precious...
If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
Am I the only one that has thoughts on this video!?? Geeze, not even Shat posted her thoughts...damnit.
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As miserable as life may be I hold it pretty precious...
If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hannibal:
Safe sex? I saw this as a video to promote nothing but giving into fear. The child never faced his fears, and for not facing his fears *of turning around* he never died. Why didn't he die you might ask? Because he never truly "lived" so to speak.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I might be able to expand on this.
I basically concur, Hannibal.
But, I don't think that this video is talking about sex education or drugs in particular, but about standing up to, and facing your fears, and standing up to what one thinks could be horribly fearful. Basically, one can substitute the word 'dying' with the word 'living' as Hannibal correctly mentions.
By not facing your fears, and by not looking straight into the eyes of that which you think is fearful, horrible, unbearable, spooky, you are left 'afraid' of facing any thing which you think closely resembles these fears; you are left with a future fear, which will not even allow you to face things which you should actually face and get over with.
This artificial fear will not allow you to open your eyes and experience the real truths and reality of existence.
I do not remember the exact words, but if any of you know about the life of a Japanese film maker Akira Kurosawa, you might know about his childhood experience, and the above example is exactly what happened to him during world-war two, and the ?face up to your fears? is (I think) a Zen or a Taoist teaching, thousands of years old.
When Kurosawa was about 10~12 years old, he was taken to Hiroshima (or Nagasaki, I don't remember it well) by his elder brother who was about 17 then. At the first glance of those horribly decaying bodies of humans and animals, Kurosawa closed his eyes, his brother asked him to open his eyes and said - "If you do not look straight into the face of fear, it will haunt you for the rest of your life, and you will not be able to face even the most trivial challenges of life. Face the worst un-seeable and know it, so that you are no more afraid of facing the unknown"
He open his eyes, and although he was afraid then, later on, his mentality was shaped into becoming a deep thinker, which opened up his mind, and was able to face many difficult challenges in life, for he had seen, faced, and lived through the worst.
The above video shows that although the first crabs were terrible to face, but if the boy had faced them, he would not be afraid of "techno" dance, which although being strange, was nothing to be afraid of, and thereby led him to being afraid and not experiencing something new and different, which would basically not be harmful.
Kurosawa was a person who came up off beat themes, and expresses his experiences of childhood horror of world-war two in the final scenes of his film 'Kagemusha'-The Shadow Warrior, based on the life of a certain warlord during the time of Samurai warrior rule in Japan. The movie was financed and presented by his life long admirers Mr. George Lucas and Mr. Francis Ford Coppola, who were present during most of the shooting while Kurosawa directed, and consider him a brilliant director of the past century.
He was also a philosopher in a sense, but did not leave any complete book of his experiences, people are now trying to collect and understand him by interviewing others whom he spoke to, and publish it in chronological order. I have seen a TV documentary on his life where many people were being interviewed. I had already seen most of his movies, and came to know him better through the documentary.
some earlier interesting movies being:
'Seven Samurai' (Most of Clint Eastwood's earlier, and western movies, were based on this movie- Fistfull of dollars, Good Bad and the Ugly, For a few dollars more, etc.)
'Ran' (pronounced 'Raan', as in 'Kaan' in James 'Caan' - Movie based on the Code and Morals of a Sumurai warrior. BTW, Kurosawa was of a Samurai descend and was brought up according to the strict rules of a Samurai Code by his farther. His elder brother, who eventually could not marry a certain girl, committed Harakiri along wiht his girlfriend around the age of 26. Kurosawa was the last person to see him alive when his elder brother waved him goodbye, stopping him again as if trying to say something, and said nothing and said goodbye again. The next morning, Kurosawa had to witness a bloody body of his brother.
'Red Beard' 'Yojimbo' and 'Dreams' - other off beat movies.
I hope this helps to widen ones horizons, and helps one to face fears and eventually get rid of them, and experience the richness of life to its fullest extent.
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....just IMHO though.
(*wondering*: Shatoushka? Is that you?)
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Everyone, what has been written are some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone here is now dumber for having read them. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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"He called the shit, poop!" - Billy Madison
MAN ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow! what a great thread!
*shakes head at vector*
*thinks: shame on you*
i hadn't posted my thoughts because i wanted everyone to post what they felt first.
i wanted to respoond after reading hannibal's post, simply because i agree.
however, had i posted then, i do not think i would have received that wonderful post from sapius.
sapius--
its is interesting that you touted the experiences of so-and-so...i, too, think it has much to do with that particular 'urban legend'...but i wonder how much.
the video is very haunting. i enjoy watching it over and over. *really likes the song*
but in further detail, i have been wondering if the video has a taste of social pressures to it (i.e.-the appearence of spears and the pixel people)
ek3--you never fail to humor me.
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i just saw it, the pc at parents' place doesnt respond well to flash..
but this is really a strange kind of movie..
the first time i saw it, i thought it was a strange metaphor for life, all his friends and all the other kids went to live it. Leaving him behind.
The he starts to fear life, tries to ignore it, but it's still there, all day.
really sad, but that's the first thing i thought
after that i listened to the music, a western type of theme in there.
Gave me the feeling for a lonely cowboy, riding his horse, in the desert. No-one else, looking and fleeing from civilization.
Those pixel people, they're.. not clear, not deep, just a badly drawn surface.
Maybe a metaphor for the others in his world.
can't place the britney spears really.
hmmm, just some ponderings of mine, not really an analysis, but that's what i thought the first time i saw it.
one thing, that music.. sounds slavic,
maybe poland or something, by the use of some german when they skip to techno.
ah well, as i said, just pondering a little.
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Sure the universe is a great place, but if it wasn't here, no-one would miss it.
i was thinkin' the music was japanese opera...but what the hell do i know?
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This will be my first serious post. Here is my reasoning for saying it is a message for safe sex.
1) Crabs (aka: Pubic Lice)
2) The first crab was darth vader. What was Darth's most famous quote? What else? "Luke, I am your father." Unless there is an accident, you don't make babies practicing safe sex.
3) One crab was a clown. I bring back to memory the serial killer John Wayne Gacy, who viciously tortured, raped, and murdered more than thirty young men.
4) One of the crabs has an extremely large tongue. It appeared he was licking Darth. Was the tongue for oral pleasure? You be the judge.
5) Another crab had an extremely large nose. It appeared he was poking the clown crab. Some might even say the nose represented a penis. Maybe I'm just a pervert, but that is what I saw.
6) Britney Spears: The universal sex symbol. What else can she represent besides sex?
7) Everyone was dancing but the little boy. Everyone died except for the little boy. The little boy abstained from dancing and he was the only one who lived. Coincidence? I think not.
8) The pixel people were referred to as rock stars. Don't rock stars have the reputation of being promiscuous.
Now, I did not account for everything but I accounted for what I could see.
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"He called the shit, poop!" - Billy Madison
wow, jason! i am impressed.
what you said took alot of insight. you have defended your case superbly.
you are commended.
*salutes*
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Alison, do you for one second believe that I am capable of posting a reply that well laid out and organized? I think not.
I am not ek3. Please review the following information.
A=TastinGood
B=Jason
X=ek3
Y=someone thats not me
If A=B and X=Y then X cannot equal A or B.
There I hope you understand.
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"If Lincoln had thought being the President was such a longshot, we'd have nobody's picture on the one dollar bill" -Arthur Fonzerelli (The Fonz)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Alison, do you for one second believe that I am capable of posting a reply that well laid out and organized?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
yes.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>A=TastinGood
B=Jason
X=ek3
Y=someone thats not me
If A=B and X=Y then X cannot equal A or B.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ok. then who is ek3?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>There I hope you understand.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
jason, as much as i try, there is nothing about you i understand. but is that my fault?
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Yes, let's think about this.
First, let's formalize a formula.
If A=TastinGood, B=Jason, X=ek3, and Y=The Unknown.
A+Y=B+X
Plug in the known vaiables.
(TastinGood)+Y=(Jason)+(ek3)
Now simply subtract (Jason) from both sides. Once this is done you will notice that (TastinGood) and (Jason) cancel each other out. Leaving us:
Y=ek3
Well it looks like ek3 will stay a mystery for now. More information is going to be needed to complete the equation.
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"He called the shit, poop!" - Billy Madison
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Now, I did not account for everything but I accounted for what I could see.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now this is what is quite amazing about a human mind, the power to inteperet the same thing in different ways. Just as in intepreting the nature of God according to different religions, or better yet, different interpretations of the same religion or words that create denominations.
It may well be that this video was creatd by a devote theist to express how one should stay away from briteney, and there by evil. But I do not see the connection on how this promotes safe sex.
I think Shatoush agrees, but I'm not yet satisfied, and will soon ask for elaboration on every point raised by ek3.
[This message has been edited by Sapius (edited September 25, 2001).]
Originally posted by ek3:
This will be my first serious post. Here is my reasoning for saying it is a message for safe sex.
1) Crabs (aka: Pubic Lice)
>>>Pardon my ignorance, but why is it so?
2) The first crab was darth vader. What was Darth's most famous quote? What else? "Luke, I am your father." Unless there is an accident, you don't make babies practicing safe sex.
>>>Not necessarily. I would say that the Most Important rather that the most famous quote is, (I have never heard anyone say your "famous" quote, we could take a vote here) Darth Vader - "I find your lack of faith disturbing". Which is the most fundamental quote on which the movie is based on, faith in the Force. ...And? May the Force be with you ek3. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
>>>...and how does your quote relate to safe sex?
Do you mean that Vader should have used a condom, to avoid Luke being born, with his lawfully wedded wife who gave him a daughter earlier? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/confused.gif
3) One crab was a clown. I bring back to memory the serial killer John Wayne Gacy, who viciously tortured, raped, and murdered more than thirty young men.
>>>Interesting. And how about the crab with the god-head of a statue from Christmas Island?
4) One of the crabs has an extremely large tongue. It appeared he was licking Darth. Was the tongue for oral pleasure? You be the judge.
>>>Sorry, I stopped judging long time a ago, but I must admit though; you have a crystal clear imagination.
5) Another crab had an extremely large nose. It appeared he was poking the clown crab. Some might even say the nose represented a penis. Maybe I'm just a pervert, but that is what I saw.
No problems. As long as you stay in the realm of imaginations. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
6) Britney Spears: The universal sex symbol. What else can she represent besides sex?
>>>Why, I find her a soul who has a talent to express herself through the art of singing. Let the world keep happily looking at the cover of the CD, I open it and listen.
>>>( BTW, I just liked her first song, *what was it?* and after that, most of her songs seem similar. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/confused.gif http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
7) Everyone was dancing but the little boy. Everyone died except for the little boy. The little boy abstained from dancing and he was the only one who lived. Coincidence? I think not.
>>>Yes, sure, only the little boy was left ALL ALONE in the end, cut off from the rest of the kids who died and move on to Heaven.
8) The pixel people were referred to as rock stars. Don't rock stars have the reputation of being promiscuous.
>>>I don't know. They could also represent "things" that are considered as not the norm, and thereby believed to be harmful. Leading one to not using his brains and interacting with people, because he believes the first "crab" might have been harmful and did not look at it, all must be the same. Logical, isn't it.
Now, I did not account for everything but I accounted for what I could see.
>>>Now seriously - ek3, I must say; you do have a powerful imagination, it is not easy to look at something and come up with a sensible interpretation. But what rules the interpretation itself is your experience and mentality, which does not really matter here. I must give you points for your basic ability of consistent imagination though.
Well done! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by Sapius (edited September 30, 2001).]
Thank you. I have a sex driven mind. =)
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a sick mind is a joy forever http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
welcome to the club http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Sure the universe is a great place, but if it wasn't here, no-one would miss it.
Dear Sapius <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>what rules the interpretation itself is your experience and mentality, which does not really matter here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The same applies to you, right? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Dear Sapius
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
what rules the interpretation itself is your experience and mentality, which does not really matter here.
PP: The same applies to you, right? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Of coure yes, otherwise I wouldn't have said it. I'm no better than anyone or different than anyone if you really understand the purpose of existence. And although we are the same, we posses a unique quality of individuality for a definite reason, but I don't think you want to know that because it is not Scientific. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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....just IMHO though.
ha, this looks like it's the new beck video, and that's as much thought as it deserves.
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be curious...be familiar...
*gasp*
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