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thanks to a certain special someone, i ask this question (and more...) :
are there any sorts of actions a good person would never do?
i think this is a trick question. i also think that if this question were valid, it would certainly remain unanswerable.
what do you guys think?
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Not that I see this going off on some long cliched tangent or anything but...
A good person would believe that they're better than god if they don't believe in God and are under the impression that anything is better than nothing.
A good person would also believe that they're better than god if they believe that God is evil.
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[This message has been edited by Thread Killa (edited November 17, 2001).]
ethics once more shatoushka? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
as far as to your question, i'd say no.
i think ethics are a personal system, my ethics can differ from my neighbours, and they'll certainly differ from someone with a different religion/moral code/ etc...
so concluding from that i'd say there is no fixed moral code that says that _this_ is good, and _that_ is bad, only my own which would say that meaning that depending on his ethics the person could find himself good and yet do anything there is.
(this may sound like garbled ethics, but from his viewpoint it all adds up even though other think it's wrong)
and next to that, who decides what is a 'good' person? that's still someones ethics too.
i'll just say, seeing how ethics are not absolute, i doubt the whole concept of good is undefined too.
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Sure the universe is a great place, but if it wasn't here, no-one would miss it.
Thread K. said everything I wanted to say, and in an even more concise and to the point manner than I probably would have been able to do.
Score one up for TK cuz that post ruled http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
Damn, I can't even think of anything to add to it..
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If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
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well, you know me.
i dunno.
ethics, to me, is one of the most highly interesting areas of philosophy. i can't describe why.
and i really loooooooove thread killa's post.
especially the cynical line:
something is better than nothing.
i just had to chuckle.
as far as i'm concerned, killa can post anytime. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Thaaaaanks.
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a charming poem for just an occasion:
Mock on, Mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau;
Mock on, Mock on, 'tis all in vain.
You throw the sand against the wind,
And the wind blows it back again.
And every sand becomes a Gem
Reflected in the beams divine;
Blown back, they blind the mocking Eye,
But still in Israel's paths they shine.
The Atoms of Democritus
And Newton's Particles of light
Are sands upon the Red sea shore,
Where Israel's tents do shine so bright.
~~Blake
that poem irritates me.
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p.s.-- i got dibs on being Rousseau. anyone wanna play the part of (the pansy) Voltaire?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Robin:
But if God is evil then there cannot be anything that is good, makes about as much sense as a rhino having sex with an ant.
Aside from that, just because you believe that God is evil, doesn't make it so, it just makes you, well, don't know you, but the word 'demented' comes to mind!
You can believe in whatever you would like, cause God permitted that!
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assuming there is a god, which is something you believe.
and to retort (here it comes)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
(slightly adapted)
just because you believe that God is, doesn't make it so,
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Sure the universe is a great place, but if it wasn't here, no-one would miss it.
well, i'm afraid you're a little too late mr robin,
i'm a born again atheist http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
as in, previous christian, and an atheist the last few years.
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Sure the universe is a great place, but if it wasn't here, no-one would miss it.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>BELEIVE ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT DO NOT BE AFRAID TO QUESTION YOUR OWN BELIEFS, AS THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN ENSURE THERE VERACITY!!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
in a way, you are right. how cynical of you. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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And those who go from christian, to athiest and back to christian again cannot make up their mind.
Is there a god? Or have we been taught to believe, so we do? Or is there simply a need to believe in something and 'God' or whatever fulfills that need?
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yes.
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What made you change your beliefs enough to now believe that God does not exist?
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I used to rock and roll all night and party every day. Then it was
every other day. Now I'm lucky if I can find half an hour a week in
which to get funky.
- Homer J. Simpson
God is just a figment, a focusing figment I believe. Gives us some way to put answers on what we normally could not answer, or things that seem to have no answer. Or for that matter, things that are just incomprehensible to our pathetic brains http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
that's my theory...
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As miserable as life may be I hold it pretty precious...
If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I wil write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always, I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you.
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it is a cynical notion, regardless of the implications.
what i mean to say is, if you were to question your beliefs (in that of god) and were to find that nothing leads to support this belief, would you discharge it?
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the fact that your previous post was cynical, no longer pertains to the subject of your post.
i will, however, comment on this newwer post. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
it matters not to me what you believe in. i am not going to get involved in a(nother) god debate...at least not now.
everyone needs a hero for the moment.
why not let that hero be god...
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SHATOUSHKA:
thanks to a certain special someone, i ask this question (and more...) :
are there any sorts of actions a good person would never do?
i think this is a trick question. i also think that if this question were valid, it would certainly remain unanswerable.
what do you guys think?
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To give an analogy...or metaphor....
It would be like having a nuclear weapon, never planning on using it, but also never be willing to say you would never use it first.
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Alex
interesting....
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"Good"? Well, it depends on who is talking... anyways....
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>are there any sorts of actions a "good" person would never do?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, all the ones a person wouldn't like it done unto him.
*Alas.... quite rare*
Of course, you already knew that Shatoush, didn't you? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif