O.k. Now I'm really depressed. I'm just going to stick with 2 and 4. : )
Thanks so much for the clip. I really didn't know Virgil's playing so this was a treat!
Who are Virgil's influences?
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O.k. Now I'm really depressed. I'm just going to stick with 2 and 4. : )
Thanks so much for the clip. I really didn't know Virgil's playing so this was a treat!
Who are Virgil's influences?
I know a number of guys over the years have influenced Virgil so it is easier to point them as influences in general than at a specific point in time in Virgil's time-line(who at that exact moment is effecting his playing and thinking) I know that a very early influence in a rock context was Ian Paice, because Ian had such a unique style of playing in that context. Then he mentions Carl Palmer and Bruford as being influences at a young age in the Prog context. He was really moved by Tony and Cobham in the early fusion era then Gadd was a BIG influence on him. Narada Michael was a big influence, not knowing how long that lasted. He studied with Philly "Joe" Jones for quite awhile and he was a major influence on him, I know that Philly had high praise for Virgil.
And I know that he has great admiration for Vinnie and Dave, also Dennis along with being good friends with them. And I know he digs certain aspects of Marco's and Lang's playing, also good "Mates" to Virgil. It is quite funny because all three of those guy's,Vinnie Dave and Dennis were singing Virgil's praises years before anyone really knew about him. You can go back to 1994 and Dave is RAVING! about this Australian guy who is insane doing things no one else can do, and back then he said Virgil was one of his absolute faves. Here just last year Vinnie was quoted as saying he loves going to watch Virgil at the Potato because Virgil always kick's his Butt! in the good sense of course and should not forget Simon Phillips who is a good mate of Virgil's, and they happen to have great admiration for one another. Simon said Virgil is without a doubt the most advanced drummer playing today.
What is cool is to see these Giants have the comroderie they do have and praise eachother at the drop of a hat and knowing that it is not jibberish but real sincere praise, a good influence for all of us.
Hope this has helped
Regards Digital
Interesting, thnks for that K. That clip was just stupid! What was that 'windmill' thing he was doing off the floor tom towards the end? [img]eek.gif[/img]
YIKES!!!!!!!!!
That was insane!
BV
Silly. Just plain silly. [img]eek.gif[/img]
Wow, what a great clip!
Can anyone explain the sub-division Virgil is doing that starts around 0:14 and kicks into high gear around 0:17? I know he's changing it up, but I can't figure it out. That time modulation is just crazy.
Danny
am i going nuts.........where is the clip u guys are raving about?
it's on the main page! Houseofdrumming.com
anyways aside from the terrible quality and audio(sorry guys), the clip is great, and IMO it shows that there is much more to Virgil than just "feet"(which seems to be what most people are attracted to)...But the guy has killer hands, especially on the Ultimate Drummers Weekend....
It is on the opening page under top 20 news items. "New Virgil Donati Clip" you cannot miss it. Well I guess you will not miss it this time.
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Digital
Danny, they're half note triplets, just follow the hi-hat at 0:17. Then he switches to a "binary" division, hitting the snare every two trilpet notes (I hope I'm explaining this correctly, english is not my native language). Then I guess he just solos taking the triplet notes as a reference instead of the quarter note.
...he MUST have those damn drumsticks surgically attached to his hands!!! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
unfrigginbelievable!!!
holy shee?t !! i am loving the craziness (cymbal / tom down stroke 'flams'?) starting at 1:35. sounds like he does a nice "ritard" with polyrythms...back into regular (geeeze) subdivisions, completely NAILING the kicks back to "1". SICK. dam does he have fast hands for such high strokes.
GBG
ladanny, sounds like he's using eigth-note triplets on his hihat so the quarter-note triplet would become his pulse. then he seems to modulate back to the original pulse for the rest of his solo.
found it, but i cant get it on windows media player.......can it not be posted on quicktime?
What and where is this clip you all are referring to??
He needs to get laid. Or , someone needs to break his arm.
Seriously, great stuff. Reminds me of when I saw Dennis Chambers with John McGlaughlin playing all this tintal with Tihai and mukhra stuff. I don't think Dennis really knew what he was playing though. [img]graemlins/shhh.gif[/img]
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It is on the opening page under top 20 news items. "New Virgil Donati Clip" you cannot miss it. Well I guess you will not miss it this time.
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Digital
I think you're right Shedder. Sounds like 8th note triplets.
Thanks!
Danny
I have seen Virg pull off those cymbal/floor tom flam combo's? a few times and it is amazing to watch. So of course I try it and try it and so on and NO WAY! in heck.The power, speed, endurance and more importantly the control needed is ridiculous, I felt like I was going to hurt myself or someone else trying to pull it off [img]eek.gif[/img] and doing it while your feet are blazing away COME ON! The man's dexterity and level of control is beyond absurd.
Good one Blake, I think Virg would go crazy having his arm broke, oh well I think he could still be pretty good with 2 feet and 1 arm [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Regards Digital
Well it is music to my ears and a treat for my eyes that is all that matters! [img]tongue.gif[/img] sounds amazing and that is good enough for me.
Digital
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
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as technically brilliant as it is, i just dont find it very musical [img]redface.gif[/img] * puts on kevlar vest and waits for flaming*
I'm sure he did a clinic for drumwright in Reading and was on a premier clinic tour too though i never caught him.
at someone else's computer and managed to get the virgil clip.
OH MY GOD!!! it is unbelivable......the man is wondeful!!!
wot i wanna know is why arent ALL the drum magazine hip to this guy and giving him covers and articles and why hasnt sabian done a massive WORLD clinic tour......he must be the most technically advanced and ADVANCING drummer on the planet!!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hats off to virgil and may he come to the UK VERY soon!!!
Actually Modern Drummer has been very hip to Virgil of all the Magazines. He has been on the cover a couple of times since 98 and they have said very directly that he is the "King" of progressive fusion Drumming and more than once called him the most advanced drummer on the scene today, I know in the last article they said one person of all the guy's pushing the limit's of drummimg comes to mind when thinking of the who has REALLY taken over the top drumming to a place unreachable to most "MERE MORTALS" and that was Donati. I know that when Virgil was first hitting the scene real hard worldwide that he did do a number of Sabian tours, specifically in Europe. The last time he hit the U.K. was in 2001 I believe, but he has played all over Europe to a great degree the last 2 or 3 years. A number of tours and clinic's.
Digital
hey guys, good to see you promoting Virg!
Btw Virg has never done a clinic in Ireland!! [img]frown.gif[/img]
Good to see you over here Jimi [img]biggrin.gif[/img] take care my friend.
Digital
I'm not surprised to read what people have to say about Virgil. Like Tony in the 1970's, he had to be seen to be believed. I remember asking him to do something that I thought he was doing but I could not believe he was doing. He had me kneel down by his HH and watch his right hand. Then, I believed it! What you hear is not always what's being done.
You know, a lot of people did NOT appreciate what Tony was doing with the Lifetime(s), back then and were in the heart of the Fusion era. Some players still haven't got hip to what Tony was
doing back then. You can tell that Virgil got up to it, though.
Compare the Tony of the 1970's to the Tony of the 1960's and the difference is radical. Sometimes, I wish he continued along the lines of the 1960's. Other times, I'm happy that things turned out the way they did.
A lot of players think Virgil is just a loud MF on the kit, just like they said about Tony. The difference is that Tony had the 1960's behind him and the appreciation of thousands. Virgil is coming out of left field, with an anvil, dropping it on our card-table! [img]eek.gif[/img]
These guys were/are explorers. We don't have to go with them if we don't want to but if you don't get on the express train, you risk getting to your destination a lot later. Virgil will progress, if you can imagine that. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
As players get older, they become more musical. it will happen more and more for Virgil. It's not a question of what he can't do, it's a question of what he wants and is thinking about doing. It's like that for many drummers. It's in the mind. It's about what we think is possible. [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img]
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