Religion Who Needs It

After going to a Weckl clinic I had a revelation .People don't need main stream bigetry aka "Religion" we need Music. Weckl said something to the fact that his religion was music. I think that popular religion should be done away with.

Congratulations ed, you've done it again mate! Not content with nearly driving all of us drummers to beating the sh^t out of each other with your 'Who thinks Bush is an idiot?' post, you've now turned us towards that age old favourite - and starter of many a memorable war.... RELIGION!

What next I wonder? "Who thinks animals should be hunted for their fur?" "Is eating meat murder?" "What are your opinions on abortions?" Or perhaps... "Should women REALLY get the vote?!?!?!" hehe!

I am a christian and beleive that we should be allowed to ask questions without any resistance from your narrow minded replies Dazzler. If you don't like this forum then maybe you should try to find another one. In Christ,

eddruming

Yeah I agree. You know you're just going to upset a lot of people posting stuff like that. Here, I'll give you definitions and let you think about it some before you keep posting without thinking. . .

re?li?gion noun.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

2.A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.


big?ot
noun.

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

No offense, I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm also not religious AT ALL, don't even plan to be, but I don't think you or Dave knew what you were talking.

Hold on a sec edd and TBF, if either of you took the time to judge the TONE of my post, you would find that I wasn't being obstreperous, I was infact being LIGHT HEARTED (maybe the 'hehe' gave it away?). You two should stop letting your hot heads get the better of you and maybe you would see that I wasn't mocking religion in any way shape or form. For all you know, I could be a practicing Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or whatever.
As for your comments about this forum, I think this forum is fantastic and as part of the drumming community, I shall continue to be a part of it and share in the healthy debates.
Now and again however, (especially in the current climate) we need to smile and have a joke with each other - it's called FRIENDLY banter. I never intended to cause offence and it wasn't meant to be inciteful in any way. If you were offended, then I'm sorry.
Read it again, look at the exclamation marks, and take it in the spirit that it was meant, with good faith and HUMOUR.
Thanks for calling me narrow minded by the way ed, now look who's being quick to judge other people... that's not very Christian of you is it?

Please lets not go down this road because Our Faiths in whatever, are too sacred to be bashing or arguing about. Politics is one thing but Religion is very personal and it is one thing to get into reasoned discussion but not into ranting and making cutting remarks one way or the other. And my statement is not directed at any one person but all I am saying is let's stick to music, we have enough to debate about on this subject called drums and making music and hopefully doing it without bashing eachother. I beleive we can challenge eachother but let's not get personal.

Digital

Arguing over the internet is like the special olympics. No matter who wins, you're all still retarded.

yes, derek. after a few saddening posts by ed, i'm starting to miss gamdem myself.

So who is this Gamdem dude, I must of missed the enjoyment. Seems like he is not here anymore.

Digital

Um, sheesh...guys, guys, is dere any LUV LEFT IN DA WURL'?!! CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!!
Guess not...[what a startling revelation...HEE HEE] [i caps'ed mine to make it more obvious, Dazz!]...
Um, ed, not to bash or anything, but your 1st [perhaps], & DEF your 2nd post didnt sound extremely Christian to me [your humble correspondent]...
Personally, i HATE the word "religion"...fact be known, the only time the Bible itself uses the term is when it describes other heathen or evil practices/"religions"...God or the Bible NEVER refers to true agape love or worship of himself as "religion"...this is a man-made word, a mockery of the true original SPIRITUAL intent...the meaning of the word "religion" generally ends up pointing to blind tradition, anyway [as in to do somethoing "religiously"], which we can all do without [you know, the ole "my grandpa was a [pick your religion or denomination], & HIS grandpa, & HIS grandpa b4 that, etc etc - that's the way it's done, that's the way we've ALWAYS done it [without question]...TRADITIONS...some r good...some flat out SUCK...
However, i too am disgusted by popular or "organized" [big business] religion...i prefer "spirit[uality]" or "faith"...true faith in the Creator &/or the truth [if one believes this] was NEVER meant to be what it has become; money, selfishness, personal agendas, & power-hunger has infiltrated it's walls, but can never take away from the truth of it...
But to crack on Dazz, then tell him to maybe find another forum & then say "In Christ" is not very Christian, & indeed VERY UN-American, if u ask me [& even if'n ya didnt], & EXTREMELY sarcastic...i realize Dazz was being somewhat sarcastic 1st, but it was with well-intent, & he DID end w/ the "hehe," which kinda made ya chuckle at the end, so as not to take serious offense to it...

Maybe [& maybe not! [img]wink.gif[/img] ] the Weckl "quote" was an acceptable point of debate 4 this forum, but the "...Bush is an idiot" 1 DEF was not...NOTHING to do with drumming OR music, & generally a bad idea when it's out of context like that...this is not a "political bandwagon" forum - it is a *ahem* [HELLO!] DRUMMING forum [as the title so eloquently puts it]...
Having said that, you r DEF entitled to your opin about such matters...only, it would be shrewd of you to keep it under your collar if it doesnt apply to drumming...just my .04 sense...
Oh, & Josiah - hilarious!...
OKAY, u guys, LIGHTEN UP AWREDDY, EVEN!!!! [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 27, 2003 03:23 AM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

"Tried By Fire" - if you're "not religious AT ALL and don't plan to be, why are you in a Christian band? Just curious...

Jesus is Gay..................love, someone who feels this thread should be closed............peace.........beats.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 27, 2003 06:00 AM: Message edited by: beats ]</font>

Well said Fuse.. I whole heartedly concur with you. If ed hasn't got the ability to detect when someone is being a little sarcastic or trying to lighten the mood (by using exclamation marks, the odd 'hehe' etc), the next time I post I'll do more of this.... [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] HAAA HAAAAaaa!!
[img]cool.gif[/img] TEEEE HEEEE!! "I was JOKING" "SOUND THE BELLS...... I'm NOT being serious!!!!!!!!" [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Does this help at all??

Or would you rather we all sat around our pc's discussing if there is a God and contemplating "why we're all here?!?!?!"

Yes, this IS a drumming forum and maybe Ed, my dear friend, it is YOU who would be better served with a more 'spiritual' forum, seeing as your last posts have had bugger all to do with drumming.

Bad idea, eddrumming

Sounds like you rather worship creation than the Creator himself.

Thank God for music.

eddrumming, i read your first post , i'm a little confused.

are you stating that weckl made a comment that popular religon should be done away with, or is it you who think that?

one is vastly different than the other. also are you asking us our opinion whether or not popular religion should be done away with or are you defending religion.

clarity would help me to understand the post better.


chris perra

nothing but troll posts from this guy.

can we get gamdem back instead please? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Closing topic as requested.