The death toll is now near 20,000. Since most of the coverage is from Thailand, I think it will be much, much worse when rescue workers get to India.
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The death toll is now near 20,000. Since most of the coverage is from Thailand, I think it will be much, much worse when rescue workers get to India.
Death toll now well over 20000 and growing.
Earthquake/Tsunami
<font color="#a52a2a" size="1">[ December 27, 2004 09:45 AM: Message edited by: cincygreg ]</font>
Oh my God! And we think WE have problems! I am so sorry for all the people over there. They have it bad enough without this. I will be praying for them all. [img]frown.gif[/img]
I don't pray but I hope the death toll does not rise much higher. I know what kind of nightmare it would be for this country and we are capable of a much more sophisticated ability to help.
These countries are somewhat backwards infrastructure wise. It's gonna be awhile before they get this cleaned up. We'll never know the total number of dead!
I just read that Somalia got hit as well. As far as I'm concerned, not enough of them were killed. Fuck Somailia. In fact, if you believe in Karma, this would be a good time for Uncle Sam to tell Mogadishu to go and fuck itself. It'll be a cold day in hell before they get any relief from us.
Got ask Mohammad Fariq Adid (if he wasn't already dead) for some fucking aid.
The entire eastern coast of the United States is a prime target for a tsunami. There's a volcanic island off the west coast of Africa that has a big fault in it. Scientists have projected that a chunk of it could slide into the ocean causing a massive wave headed for the east coast.
More than 13,340 died yesterday. I am at a loss of words over a tragedy of this magnitude.
My heart goes out to those people.
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December 28, 2004 -- It hardly raised a ripple when it was reported over the summer, but news that a tsunami could one day hit New York is suddenly getting a second look.
Several months ago, geologists raised concerns that an unstable flank of a volcano in the Canary Islands off the coast of Western Africa could slide into the sea and send giant waves across the Atlantic at the speed of a jumbo jet.
Within three hours, the wave could swamp the west coast of Africa. Within five hours, it could hit southern England, and within 12 hours, it could build up enough force to wipe out the U.S. East Coast, including New York, Washington, Boston and Miami, according to a British researcher.
"Eventually, the whole rock will col lapse into the water, and the collapse will devastate the Atlantic margin," said Bill McGuire, of the Benfield Grieg Hazard Research Center.
"We need to be out there now looking at when an eruption is likely to hap pen . . . other wise there will be no time to evacu ate major cities."
McGuire said close monitoring of the site might give two weeks warning of the disaster. But that was before funding of the seismology project in the region dried up several years ago.
Scientists at the time of McGuire's August study paid little attention to the warning, largely because the volcano in question has been dormant since 1971, even though it erupts every 20 to 200 years.
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'Biggest relief effort ever' as Asian disaster toll predicted to hit 45,000
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The biggest humanitarian relief operation ever mounted was underway along Asia's devastated shores as the death toll from a massive earthquake and the tidal waves it unleashed was predicted to hit 45,000.
With the scale of the catastrophe still unfolding the confirmed death toll passed 27,000 in nine countries -- but Indonesia warned that it alone could have suffered up to 20,000 more fatalities on top of its official figure of 4,725 deaths.
Indonesia's Vice President Yusuf Kalla, who is in charge of coordinating relief efforts, said he estimated that "21,000 to 25,000 people" had been killed in Sunday's disaster.
The quake, the biggest in 40 years at 9.0 on the Richter scale, ruptured the Indian Ocean seabed off Indonesia's Sumatra island, sending huge waves thousands of kilometres (miles) to kill and destroy in countries around southern and southeast Asia and even in Africa.
Mass funerals were taking place amid scenes of traumatic grief as bodies lay rotting along coastlines throughout the region, lending weight to fears that outbreaks of disease could unleash a second wave of tragedy on a region struggling to cope with the first.
"The people should be buried and the animals should be destroyed and disposed of before they infect the drinking water. It's a massive operation," said UN disaster relief coordinator Jan Egeland.
Gruesome scenes met emergency teams in the worst hit countries of Sri Lanka, India, Indonesia and Thailand, while the death tolls ticked up even in the less affected areas of Malaysia, the Maldives and Myanmar.
As survivors were evacuated from stricken areas tales of the full horror of carnage wrought by the tidal waves emerged: babies torn from their parents' hands, children and the elderly hurled out to sea from their homes, entire villages swept away.
Hundreds of rescue ships, helicopters and planes were mobilised to evacuate tourists from wrecked resorts and airlift stricken victims to hospitals already overflowing with the injured and corpses.
The UN's Egeland told a press conference at UN headquarters in New York that relief operations would be the biggest ever as the destruction was not confined to one country or region.
"The cost of the devastation will be in the billions of dollars. It would probably be many billions of dollars," he said.
In Sri Lanka, where the death toll neared 12,000, bodies pulled from washed out trains, cars, devastated buildings and beaches, were being buried in mass funerals along the southern coastal areas.
The government waived normal legal procedures to dispose of the thousands of bodies to help stave off the threat of disease.
Drinking water wells were already badly contaminated with sea water, government minister Susil Premajayantha said, but the biggest fear is of water contamination by decomposing bodies which could spark epidemics of diseases such as cholera and typhoid, experts warned.
"The biggest health challenges we are facing are the spread of waterborne diseases," said International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies health official Hakan Sandbladh.
Compounding the problem is the huge number of people left homeless, with Sandbladh's organisation saying there were one million people displaced in Sri Lanka alone and 29,000 more in Thailand.
Thousands were also homeless in Indonesia's Aceh province, which bore the brunt of the temblor, hit at point-blank range and then battered by a tsunami.
There were post-apocalyptic scenes in the main city of Banda Aceh, where the stench of death hung over the rubble of houses, while reports trickling in from Aceh's southwestern coast spoke of an almost complete obliteration of a shoreline that is home to an estimated one million people.
"All 17 villages on the coast are no longer there," said Teungku Zulkarnaini, the head of the southwestern Nagan Raya district.
In southern India vultures gathered as survivors grimly buried or burnt their dead. The death toll passed 7,500 Tuesday, with thousands more missing.
Rescuers were anxious to discover the fate of 30,000 people unaccounted for in India's Andaman and Nicobar islands, which are close to the epicentre of the earthquake.
G.C. Gupta, a district official in the Andaman archipelago, 1,200 kilometres (745 miles) from mainland India, said some 30,000 were still missing in the tropical islands known as a vacation paradise where at least 3,000 are known to have died.
"Villages are spread all over. There are 30,000 people that need to be accounted for. Some may have fled into the interior jungles or been swept to sea," said Gupta.
Witnesses spoke of waves "taller than buildings" that crashed into the islands spread over 800 kilometres (500 miles).
On the southern Indian mainland, the death toll was expected to mount with tens of thousands still missing. Cranes dug mass graves and mourners built funeral pyres as vultures gathered where bodies still lay in the open. Funerals were carried out in a rush with minimum ritual.
Tens of thousands spent the night huddling in emergency relief camps as the government stepped up relief efforts and the Indian Red Cross appealed for food, clothes and tarpaulins.
In the worst-hit Indian state of Tamil Nadu, fisherman A. Ravi wept as he recalled watching his family, including four children, swept away as his village was flattened.
"We went fishing in the early morning and a few hours later the water started swirling around us and suddenly the level went down so sharply we could see the seabed," said Ravi.
"Then I saw a huge sheet of water going towards the shore... when I got back I found my village under water and my family gone," he said.
Similar stories of personal tragedy were repeated throught the region, with new horrors revealed each time rescuers reach previously cut off areas.
In Thailand, more than 700 foreign tourists are believed to be among the total of 990 dead.
"The latest figure we have is more than 990 confirmed deaths. Of these some 200 were Thais and the rest were foreigners," Sutham Sangprathum told reporters before a cabinet meeting on the disaster.
In the tourist resort of Khao Lak, scores of bodies found scattered on streets and among trees were piled into trucks by emergency crews, with up to 150 corpses on a single flatbed truck seen by an AFP photographer.
Hundreds of rescue workers and soldiers in white face masks were still pulling the dead out of the mud, or retrieving them from forests or ruined buildings.
For four to five kilometres (2.5-3 miles) through the town, the scene was of utter devastation and the destruction stretched two kilometres inland.
Almost 29,000 people were evacuated from the Thailand's affected areas, which included the resort islands of Phuket and Phi Phi where thousands of European tourists had been enjoying holidays.
Hardly a building was left standing on Phi Phi island east of Phuket, where bodies were seen strewn about the island, covered in white cloths before being taken away by emergency crews or Western tourist volunteers.
"I saw bodies almost everywhere on land, and in the water too, and I think there are many more bodies trapped under the bungalow debris," said rescuer Wirat Mansa-ad, estimating 300 died on the island alone.
As Thailand mobilised its army and navy in a huge rescue operation, dazed foreigners began flying home -- still struggling to come to grips with what had happened.
Melina Heppell, a six-month-old baby girl from Australia, was swept from her father's arms on Patong Beach, Phuket, when a tsunami wave hit, her uncle Simon Illingworth said on Australian television.
"They were walking along Patong Beach yesterday... he thought he had the baby in his hands, but all he had was clothes," Illingworth said, tears streaming down his cheeks.
The waves triggered by the quake were so powerful that the destruction reached the shores of Africa about 7,000 kilometres (4,000 miles) away, killing more than 100 Somali fishermen.
The tragedy has sparked a growing chorus of calls throughout the region for a tsunami alert system, as many victims were swept from coastlines hours after the quake which triggered the giant waves was recorded.
Looks like it's gonna end up being over 50,000
Death Toll Reaches 44,000
<font color="#a52a2a" size="1">[ December 28, 2004 10:06 AM: Message edited by: cincygreg ]</font>
Latest update 52,000 and rising. [img]frown.gif[/img]
It's all horribly sad. Trav was talking just last week about another probable job in Singapore and stated emphatically that we WOULD get to Thailand this time.
Destination: Pucket. (POO-ket) Where 70% of the casualities were tourists.
I think NOT. Although... what are the chances of something so horrible happening again in the next six months?
Hey Sluggo!! Wanna take a road trip with us? [img]smile.gif[/img]
Just as an aside, I'd like to add that the liberal loonies who populate Salon have been posting that the red-staters are rejoicing at the loss of life. [img]frown.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As long as he's not right by the ocean shouldn't he be ok?Quote:
Originally posted by gae:
It's all horribly sad. Trav was talking just last week about another probable job in Singapore and stated emphatically that we WOULD get to Thailand this time.
Destination: Pucket. (POO-ket) Where 70% of the casualities were tourists.
I think NOT. Although... what are the chances of something so horrible happening again in the next six months?
Hey Sluggo!! Wanna take a road trip with us? [img]smile.gif[/img]
Just as an aside, I'd like to add that the liberal loonies who populate Salon have been posting that the red-staters are rejoicing at the loss of life. [img]frown.gif[/img]
I heard on the news that the quake was so strong that it actually altered the earths rotation by a few seconds. [img]eek.gif[/img]
I feel sorry for all involved in this tragedy except the Somali's.
As of this morning, 68,000.
Reason, Phueket, Thailand is a beach town.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The name is Sarcazmo, and Phuket is actually a mountainous island and a province of Thailand, with a population of about 260,000. Phuket City is the tourist destination due to its sandy beaches.Quote:
Originally posted by gae:
As of this morning, 68,000.
Reason, Phueket, Thailand is a beach town.
I may be wrong, but based on the numbers and the pictures I've seen it is my impression the deaths only happened on and near the areas close to the ocean.
If you think about it, in terms of height this wasn't a monster wave. It is a monster wave because of its scope and that it hit thousands of miles of beaches across two continents with no warning. This wasn't one of those Hollywood movie waves that wiped out entire cities.
gae - Thanks, but NO thanks!
And for ANYONE to be happy over something like this tragedy is shameful. Religious & political beliefs aside, they are people just like us and they dodn't deserve this. Horrible! [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img] [img]frown.gif[/img]
There has been a lot of talk about the lack of a tsunami monitoring system in the Indian Ocean.
From what I've read, government monitors in Japan, United States, Australia and even Indonesia, had issued warnings of a tsunami, which are practically guaranteed with an earthquake of 9.0.
In other words, lack of monitoring isn't the problem here, at least in this circumstance. In some cases, word wasn't passed along because the area of concern was outside their respective jurisdiction. In case of the Indonesian monitor, he repeatedly tried to call Jakarta without success.
It is remarkable that a wave could travel up to 8 hours and people in those distant locations would not be warned.
Death Toll over 80,000, hundreds of Americans still missing
Hundreds Of Americans Missing
We have a tsunami warning system on the pacific coast of America. I saw something on it last night where there are even marked paths as to where to go once the warning sirens go off.
Cost about $4 million.
Found this posted on another site.
Tsunami Videos
There are some pretty graphic images on these.
Those videos are VERY disturbing, Greg. I'd thank you for posting the link, but I think I might have been better off not seeing the reality.