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I'd just like to point out a few things!
1=Most(good) punk/emo/ska/goth is actually Indie music; indie meaning independant music. Shite like the Strokes, Blink 182, Cradle Of Filth - anything alternative is Indie (Alternative being the American term for Indie).
2=Indie music is not just Britpop. In fact Britpop was just Indie crossing over to mainstream.
3=Only intellectuals can appreciate good independant music. We recognise good music, informed lyrics and more sophisticated dynamics.
4=Music played only through a distortion pedal is bollocks, unless however it is: The Pixies, Jesus and Mary Chain, or My Bloody Valentine, etc.
5=Steps are "nu" metal.
6=Most nobs from Grimsby are oafish, jailbait, backwards, incestious, narrow-minded gits who think that the only music that exists is in Kerrang! and made in the last 6 months.
7=Indie kids appreciate a wide variety of music, retro-punk/retro-ska/blues/folk/prog rock/electronica(not Alice Deejay)/80s electro-pop - pretty much anything orignal, alternative, or on an indie label. Check out Fierce Panda, Rough Trade, Creation, Infectious, Fiction, Zomba records, etc.
8=I am aware that I'm being arrogant and eletist - it is 'tongue-in-cheek'.
9=Indie can rock too.
Thanks, check these out if you are not a prick... Aereogramme, Bauhaus, Cure, Depeche Mode, easyworld, Einsturzende Neubauten, Forum Theatre, Garbage, House of Love, Idlewild, Joy Division, Kula Shaker, Lowgold, Mansun, New Order, One Piece Jigsaw, Placebo, Queensrych, Radiohead, Smiths, Somewhere Outside New York, The the, U2, Velvet Underground, Verve, Paul Weller, X-Ray Specs, Neil Young, Frank Zappa.....
This is not by any means a definitive list, its just to show you chain-wearing skater punk greebos (or whatever the fuck you call yourselves now) that there is more to life than Limp 182, Linkin Bizshit, SumKnot, and Corn 41.
P.S. Read a book!
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shit man...you must have been really bored! but yeah..the smiths, the cure, joy divison all that shit's great man..i just assumed everyone liked those bands and thats why noone talked about em ever...
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ohhhhhhhhh lord its indie agnst
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i bet you've been wanting to get all that out for some time, hey?
i totally agree, i liked indie (as in what is now indie bands, not alternative) before i got into rock, metal and punk.
indie is real cool and i like alot of those bands you mentioned there.
and you are right, a lot of it does rock. but do songs really HAVE to rock? if they are good songs they are good songs anyway?
good post!
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by all means put my bands name in the same list as paul weller, but let the blood be on my hands, brother....
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bring out your BERDS!
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newkid, if that really is your real name.... slightly too antagonistic, but got the point across very well, and i like the way you slipped Somewhere outside new york in there too. Classic.
Your signature too, isn't that one of your lyrics, from the 'I don't want to sound pretentious....' song. I'm so cool. It has to be said though, elitist is and always will be elitist, no matter how much you try, but i guess it's taking it to another level if you're that eletist, that ordinary elitists can fuck off. Magic.
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I feel a mere 5 replies to this post suggests the topic has been glossed over...So..... I'll type another reply to put it at the top of the page. I am interested in hearing more comments, questions and (most importantly)witty insults. Cheers.
P.S...I want to change my signature, can i do it? If yes then how?
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[This message has been edited by newkid (edited January 22, 2002).]
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wouldnt it be nice if everyone could spell "angst"............
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and its ok, when the alcohol wears off we'll be fine
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As many of you know I am a big fan of indie music. But I like every genre, as long as the band is good.
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You got a good point across but you make it sound very pretentious and elitism is the worst thing that ever happened to music. lots of people listeln to nu metal because they like it and its their way of life, not because kerrang told them to. music is about listelning to something you enjoy not having a stranger record collection.
To tell the truth, hostboard itself shows that people in the grimsby area arent as narrow minded as youve made them out to be.
But you know your beans about the whole musci thang and i like it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by newkid:
retro-punk/retro-ska/blues/folk/prog rock/electronica(not Alice Deejay)
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how can you listen to that electronic shit, it's got no soul. i like musicians who can play their instruments instead of letting computers write all the music. i went round my mate's house, he was making some "tunes" on his computer and it's fucking easy, anyone could do it. all the drums and stuff are already done for you. if i wanted to listen to crap like that i'd buy a fucking gameboy. a black & white one.
if you look at all the best music since the dawn of time, it's been the stuff with good lyrics that has been remembered.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 54CymruBeats:
how can you listen to that electronic shit, it's got no soul. i like musicians who can play their instruments instead of letting computers write all the music. i went round my mate's house, he was making some "tunes" on his computer and it's fucking easy, anyone could do it. all the drums and stuff are already done for you. if i wanted to listen to crap like that i'd buy a fucking gameboy. a black & white one.
if you look at all the best music since the dawn of time, it's been the stuff with good lyrics that has been remembered.
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You have a mighty lot to learn about the world of electronica. What you said shows extreme lack of insight and research. Do you even know the first thing about "letting your computer write the music"?
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I agree with 3speed, 'Electronica' is a very complex medium. Kraftwerk are not really the best example but they most recognised in their field. You should try stuff with a bit more of a commercial vibe to it like 'Moby'. For a chill-out session listen to anything by 'bjork' or 'Massive Attack'. If you're into hip-hop try 'DJ-Shadow'...... All of these artists aren't just "One geek with a comuter", they are bands and can back up their music with amazing live performances. These bands create very ambient music that revolves mainly around a powerful bass line, they fall into the class of 'Electronica' or 'Dance' music because they use pre-recorded, man-made drum loops and great deal of samples. Next time you mock, just make sure you know what you're on about.
P.S 3speed, who are you? You seem quite a decent bloke(you could be female but i make assumptions) if you exist in the mortal realm then i'd rather like to be your chum.
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I am Ben Hunter, Big Joe's little brother. Who are you?
I am off to the gig tonight at the Spider's Web.
You reminded me that I have a Bjork album (Homogenic) that I haven't even listened to it yet! I bought it the day Lord of the Rings came out. I loved Selmasongs, I hope this album is as good or even better (I hear it is).
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Duh!! Sorry I didn't check your name!
I'm quite a big Richard D James fan.
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Duh!! Sorry I didn't check your name!
I'm quite a big Richard D James fan.
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sorry about that. i just got bored http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Two words.....Interlectual Dick
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btw Who are you?
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Thanks!
has anyone else noticed that all the original hostboarders have kind of disapeared and have been replaced by new and inferior models? i.e kurts ghost, blitskreig bomber, spasticated barbie core. this isnt an insult, just something iver...
...this is 3speed now. Alex seems to have left this unposted, so I'll post it for him
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Bjork and Moby arnt bands, adna rnt all drum beats man-made?
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Bjork and Moby arnt bands, adna rnt all drum beats man-made?
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Bauhaus, Joy Division, Cure... proper goth bands. Can throw in Sisters of Mercy, London After Midnight, Rosetta Stone, Fields of the Nephilim, etc, in with them.
Didn't think anyone had heard of those bands anymore.
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F.A.O Sammy C(LOST CHILD)......
I take offence at your belief that my views come direct from the pages of the NME. This is not so. I dislike the NME, 9 out of ten of the journos are fat, idle, bastards who take out the anger of their failed musical dreams by slagging off today's new musical talent.
F.A.O SKIMMED MILK...
I don't want to come across as an even bigger arsehole than I already seem 'cos i'm not half bad, BUT a.a.m.o.f...bjork and moby are bands and just because their names are used to represent them, doesn't mean they're soloists. Check the credits in either of the two's album sleeves if you want proof.
Gotta go, Cheers.
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Yeah what Mark says just goes to prove bands arent just one genre. either that or he's just trying to turn the convo to goth music. One question though Bauhaus goth? What? I like them and all, but what? Oh and why the feck arent you on MSN? eh? eh?
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Yeah what Mark says just goes to prove bands arent just one genre. either that or he's just trying to turn the convo to goth music. One question though Bauhaus goth? What? I like them and all, but what? Oh and why the feck arent you on MSN? eh? eh?
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okay okay okay.
new kid. you made good points, you clearly have good taste BUT i feel you slipped up on a couple of points.
1) do NOT repeat NOT repeat NOT repeat NOT put the strokes in the same league as c.o.f. and b182. both those bands rock but have their tongues in their cheeks. The strokes do not. They are important and VEE talented.
2) do suggest your band are on a par with the cure, smiths etc. etc.
3) indie means on ann independant label. i.e. not a major, owned by major whatever.
4) ROCK
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okay okay okay.
new kid. you made good points, you clearly have good taste BUT i feel you slipped up on a couple of points.
1) do NOT repeat NOT repeat NOT repeat NOT put the strokes in the same league as c.o.f. and b182. both those bands rock but have their tongues in their cheeks. The strokes do not. They are important and VEE talented.
2) do suggest your band are on a par with the cure, smiths etc. etc.
3) indie means on ann independant label. i.e. not a major, owned by major whatever.
4) ROCK
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Come on Alex... Bauhaus are definately goth, end of story. :-)
... urrr, as for MSN, was only dashing quickly online and then off again, like now.
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http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif firstly an apology to wrong cock.
the strokes aren't a pop band and being on rough trade makes them an indie band so they deserve a little bit more respect (does the fact that i dislike the strokes prove to you - esp. lost child - that i do not work for, promote, or steal my opinions from the nme). the strokes are however 'tongue in cheek' that's what makes them so original. they exist as if it were between '65-'75 and don't take themselves fully seriously. look at the way they shoot their videos, sleazy TOTP style staging with 8mm camera effects.
nb.it felt good to put the name of my band in a list of such greats, i won't do it again sorry sir... http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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glad to know that some one else likes The Cure. also glad to know that it's Mark.
i was actually quite scared of him but not because he wears makeup but becasue he wears kickers.
oops i sound like a bitch now.
what ever nevermind... at least they aren't rockports ick...
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FAO Gothy_Louth_Mark
JOY DIVISION - A PROPER GOTH BAND?!?!?
YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT
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hahaha geeks, proper ones n tha'.
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Mark wears Kickers? hahahahahahaha thas so funny!
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Mark wears Kickers? hahahahahahaha thas so funny!
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Hahahahaha Mark wears kickers, dead funny! Didnt realise that. I'd rather have my
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Opps sorry about that!
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newkid, i agree with every point you made. kerrang is what fuels these little newbo cunts and i fucking hate them, kerrang itself being a big nast mainstream publication that makes loads of unnecessary money. the nme is a great paper but the reviews are bollocks, there's only one person in there i trust and that's steven wells. electronica music is great when coming from someone like radiohead, the aphew twin, moloko or kosheen, can not be beaten. i am an indie kid, not one of these flavour of the months twats and i also love a bit of classical music, i wish you got more metal bands doing electric guitar versions of these classy tunes, a bit of moonlight sonata performed by kraftchlag wouldn't brighten up any wet weekend. i couldn't be bothered to read the whole string so i have nothing more to say apart from somewhere outside new york are a bloody brilliant band, very radioheadish and it's good to see them getting recognition. cheerio.
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and by the way, person who said electronica has no soul, people pur their hearts and souls into electronic music, perfecting every last little beat. it's an agonising process so don't criticise. i'll tell yuo who has no soul - linkin fucking park, they don't write all their own songs, probably don't play their instruments, their vocals are perfected on a computer - they're white rappers which is pathetic - mainstream buggers who sell records to fool, and above all they're manufactured, they were put together based on their outward appearance like a little take that collection o fpeter andres. tarts.
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