How Does One Fly a Kite without a String...???

How does one fly a kite without a String?

When we discover the Kite, the world becomes an eclectic menage' with no bounds or barriers.

Once the throes of looking up at the dancing kite have sparked us, we naturally want to attach. The string becomes our line of communication between the known and the unknown.

The nuances of the string further ensnare us.

We hold on to the string and we get a reaction.
We pull, tug, sway, dip, reel out, reel in. We admire the kite as it dances freely in sky, yet we want it tethered to our own heart.

The string gives life to the kite. If we let go of the string, the kite would surely fall to the ground. No longer would the kite dance freely in the sky if what held it let go.

How do we let the kite dance freely without the string?

i have never flown a kite in my life.

(i haven't done many 'rite of passage' kid things in my life such as fishing, bowling, scouts/guides, marched in a parade, sang karaoke in a public place, attempt to decapitate things [person or animal]) so i am ill equipped in life's struggles.

i'm sure there's a beautiful, poetic metaphor in this but i am toooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired to think right at this moment. i'll get back to you on this at a future point in time when my brain is back to normal.

but you know about key parties...sheesh!

Actually (hehehehe) in your stuporous state, you have come up with a clever rejoinder. We don't always have to fly the kite, we can watch someone else mishandle, er handle the delicate nature how much force to put on the string.

yes. i seemed to have missed out on those 'intermediary' kids activities and got straight into the adult stuff (such as key parties).

watching others fail is far more uncomfortable than failing for yourself.

hmmmm...it seems to me it should depend on the effort put forth. In theory, if you don't know the person is going to fail ahead of time, then observing/helping should not be a loathsome task.

Then you put forth your effort, the help you gave to others comes back as experience.

if you did know they'd fail and you watch them fail earnestly, then it is a horrid experience. whilst i say this, i still usually won't stop anyone from failing.

A very interesting circumstance/scenario you bring up.
YOU'VE GOT TO SEE "ABOUT A BOY"...!!!

First off, IF it's completely obvious they will fail, then some type of diplomacy to at least understand why they are trying seems a reasonable approach to take. (For instance, Shatzy will forever revile me, or forever be ambivalent toward me, or both, and you know this, yet you say nothing.)

If the reason they are moving forward is "noble" or at least is in earnest, then your support can make the difference.

i'm one of those people that would sometimes rather take a backseat on life and just observe what happens around me. at parties, pubs, wherever, i can just settle myself, sit in the corner and watch the procession of life before me. i will not actively seek out company or conversation. if conversation comes my way, i'll partake if i feel like it. if conversation goes away, i won't chase it. so having said that, i don't suppose myself a person that'd inform someone they're failing.

But if you were in the back of a plane being taken over by terrorists, would you pee in your pants?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alex:
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First off, IF it's completely obvious they will fail, then some type of diplomacy to at least understand why they are trying seems a reasonable approach to take. (For instance, Shatzy will forever revile me, or forever be ambivalent toward me, or both, and you know this, yet you say nothing.)

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are you holding that against me?

and yes. i think i would pee. not by choice you see. a terrorist attacking a plane is someone forcing themselves into my realm and when it's something as serious as that, i can't help but to take notice and react.

I bring up the peeing reference because it was a quote Shatzy made last year, just curious if your reaction would be any different, and it was, it was normal.

Am I holding the Shatzy thing against you?

yes, but only for a short while.

And yet, I feel that we let you down. Since you are younger than either of us, I feel we should have resolved for this situation for the sake of the "kids".

However, I only hold against you the part that validates Shatzy's suddenly inane behavior by not addressing it on your forum. (hence you are more than a "kid", you are a moderator!)

Although, if you didn't take my side, I would be pissed! So I guess the discussion would be pointless if I have already made up my mind that you should take my side.

That's why it's only temporary that I am wishing you had questioned Shatzy as to what it was that I did that made her change her demeanor toward me completely.

I'll get over it.

it's like this alex.

i don't know the story. i know fragments of it and so i decided not to take any stand on it because of the above reason and because it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with me. as you well know from the above posts, i don't do anything to stop people failing (very very very rarely) so i feel it is not my place or my duty to take sides. i didn't question shats just as i didn't question you. don't say i wasn't fair.

Actually, it's not like that. It took me a long while to learn that. It's like this. Treating someone completely differently in a mere slice of time is dysfunctional at best.

It certainly is harrassment.

What I find surprising about your position is Shatzy went beserk on her own forum (Acropolis now) and called me slanderous names that I won't even repeat they were so bizarrely strewn together and vindictive.

All you had to do was read the "Alex hates us topic post on my forum to figure out what happened." Then by reading the topic post on her forum, you would have the necessary info.

But what I am concerned about is surely you read the hatred and projectile vomiting that came from Shatzy on her own forum about me, then she banned me so I could not respond.

It's one thing to watch from a distance when you do not know the participants, but to be "fair" about what Shatzy called me on her own forum and say nothing in response really bums me out.

One of the hardest lessons to learn in life is to learn to be passionate about non-sexual issues. Shatzy flunked that one to such a large scale that a new scale is needed.

Your ambivalence was your choice, but it was choice based on comfort, versus the reality of the situation.

Better luck next time.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 23, 2002 04:42 AM: Message edited by: Alex ]</font>

i'm not so dumb as to not be able to put two and two together. i know 'roughly' what happened and yes i have read the aforementioned threads. when i say i don't know the whole story, i mean it in a more esoteric sort of a way, where i'll never know the whole story because there are two sides to every story and hearing one version does not constitute to knowing the whole story.

you are wrong in saying i am ambivalent to this whole thing because that is pure non truth. just because i refrain from mentioning it does not mean i am apathetic. but like i said before, it is not for me to be involved in this because i did not cause this and i would have no effect on the outcome. i took the more ... diplomatic approach because it is not for me to intervene in your rift. yes my decision was probably based on comfort. please enlighten me as to what you perceive to be the 'reality of the situation'.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by soulfilms:
just because i refrain from mentioning it does not mean i am apathetic.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

If the situation had bothered you on any level, to say nothing about it means you have taken the situation and turned it into internal nervous energy.

You've taken an "outtie" and made it an "innie".

how profound.

actually, i detest the phrase 'internal nervous energy'. in me or anyone else. i try not to let things bother me. but it's hardly ever successful.

Well, I have never used that phrase before in my life. Is it a common phrase in your part of the world?

no i have never heard that phrase before but i don't like the connotations.