Name Your All-Time TOP FIVE !

This weekend, Rudy-Ment gave me an idea. He asked me if a certain drummer was in my top 10 or 20 favorites.

That made me think... and I'd be curious to see who your top FIVE all-time drummers are! And why... (small comment). List Only FIVE !

HERE ARE MINE:

In no particular order:

Vinnie Colaiuta -
(he does it all)

Kirk Covington -
(he is the most intense and real drummer I've seen.)

Joey Heredia -
(When it comes to Latin groove, he's the man)

Steve Gadd -
(The God of all drummers )

JoJo Mayer -
(One of the most talented drummers of the last ten years)

... your turn...

Oh boy...You shouldn't have started this topic. All hell will break loose [img]tongue.gif[/img]
First off: I really can't make a list of top five. There's so many people to consider that make me smile whenever I hear them play. I'll think of something - might post later.
I would like to comment on Jojo Mayer though - How great that you included him! Since he's from my home town I'm especially happy. I only discovered him properly last year and ever since I try to get my hands on anything to do with him. He's a real inspiration to me and many others. In addition to this, I really get the impression that he is not getting the deserved recognition by others. Although many point him out as being a great player, he's still not up there with the greats. I'm assuming this will change once he starts playing with musicians of other instruments that are at high levels and well-respected in their field. Example: Weckl and Chick. You see what I mean?

1. Vinnie - slick phrasing and accents that are never done the same way twice
2. Dennis - solid groove and funkability
3. Tony - in a class all his own and free-flow of endless ideas
4. Gadd - "Drum God" covers it nicely. Always has the right approach for the tune. Nobody is the chameleon that Gadd is. I love the way he does something bare-bones that really drives the tune forward. Learning to leave space is an art form all it's own (the 'less is more' theory).


5. The last one is tough for me. I'm tempted to say TRILOK because I like his style. He didn't conform to a set of rules and really has his own thing going. Pending my mood, I would substitue the 5 spot to ERSKINE, WECKL, DEJOHNETTE or Stanton MOORE.

id say soemthing like....in no order....

Vinnie
Gadd
Jeff Porcaro
Chad Smith
Garibaldi.....

i dunno tho it changes all the time....

also Bonham, Peart, Elvin Bill Stewert Danny Carey........

Steve God - Because he's the whole book on drumming. Groove and great chops, plus, everyone can copy steve gadd licks but who can copy vinnie? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Harvey Mason - the first groove drummer I ever really heard, with the most articulate hands and greatest touch on the drums. Very delicate and precise playing, sensitive to the music, never a basher. There was a time I would listen to harvey and think it was gadd and vice versa, very similar in many ways.

Dave the Weckl - Because I'm a sucker for listening to clinically tight chops, yet with groove intact, plus, I love the music he produces. It sums up modern fusion for me that isn't too off the wall and too cerebral, yet still lovely and complex.


Buddy Rich - because I grew up listening to him, was always amazed at what he was able to play, and he influenced so many drummers of today.


Billham Cobly - because he's a true pioneer in ambidexterity, plus he was a major pioneer in the future of fusion drumming as we know it today.

I'll give you my top five but I can't give you the order. They are all number 1's if you know what I mean...

Copeland

Vinnie

Hakim

Gaynor

Katche

Hey Suspiria
Lets trade...I'd like some JoJo stuff. Could you put a 'Best Of' together? Private email me and I could send you a list of possible interests.

Think about it.

I remember seeing JoJo sitting next to Steve Smith at NAMM years ago and had NO IDEA who he was. I knew he had to be someone to be signing stuff at the same booth.

I do think popularity does follow major gigs--Dave w/Chick; Smith w/Journey, etc. The session guys (Gadd, Jeff) have left such a large imprint on record it's easy to identify with many of their recordings.

I love seeing guys who put Vinnie & Mel Gaynor on their top list. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Phil Collins
Bill Bruford
Gary Husband
Rick Marotta
Roy Haynes

in no particular order (except for that first guy)

vinnie - does everything better than anyone(especially after hearing 'megadeth' recording)

omar - so damn fluid, a certain beauty and 'humaness' to his playing. where the hell has he been?

bohnam - the sexiest, deepest of hard rock groovers. a 'sound' all his own.

buddy - just plain awesome!

dave weckl - groove, chops, lot's of creativity.

neil peart - (permanent waves and moving pictures)probably listened to those two albums 1000 times each. beautiful recordings of drum tracks. i think all the planets 'aligned' for that band on those 2 records. i still love hearing tracks from these 2 albums on the radio over 20 yrs later!

sorry, that was six.....

No order...

-Vinnie

-Trilok

-Matt Chamberlain

-Rosenblatt

-Stevie Wonder

-Heredia

... Yeah, i named 6 also... punishable by no paradiddles for a week [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

Awww hell... i can't lie...

-Weckl

That was seven... now i'm REALLY in trouble [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

Alright, here goes.

Dave Weckl
Steve Gadd
David Garibaldi
Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
Clyde Stubblefield/John "Jab-O" Starks (can't choose between the two, i love them both equally as much)

Weckl
Vinnie
Steve Smith
Virgil
Gadd

In order of appearance on my radar:

1) Bobby Colomby - the first time I heard pop stuff with chops, musicality and really cool chord changes

2) Buddy Rich - huge influence and inspiration

3) Bill Bruford - his work with Yes and on his first solo album clearly got me thinking of new possibilities in drumming and music

4) Vinnie Colaiuta - first time I heard him was at a PASIC clinic another pioneer showing the way to uncharted territories

5) Dave Weckl - his presence on the music scene forced me to rethink everything I had learned as far as the technical and musical approach to the instrument

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Originally posted by LDGuy:
Weckl
Vinnie
Steve Smith
Virgil
Gadd

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am excatly with you LDGuy. These are my Top5 too.

Oh SH****%%&@#$T_!!!! I lied. Bump Virg. and put up Jeff J-Po Mr. Groove Porcaro. What was I thinking!

I'd have to go 4:
Vinnie
Bonham
Copeland
Gadd
Tony Williams

in order [img]wink.gif[/img]

1. vinnie - what can i say.
2. dave weckl - like water.
3. dave dicenso - one word... PHAT.
4. jeff porcaro - his spacing
5. gary novak - best combination of the four guys above.

No particular order...

Tony - Maybe the most talented drummer in history.
Vinnie - From Megadeth to Chick Corea, he does it all.
Elvin- My favourite JAZZ drummer.
Gadd- He set all the basic.
Weckl- He tooked it to the next level.

woah... it's really obvious many of us here have Vinnie on our top list... [img]wink.gif[/img]

here's mine...

Vinnie Colaiuta (of course)
virgil donati
dave weckl
jeff porcaro
abe laboriel jr.

Only 5... Not fair... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Vinnie ? From Aydin Esen's "Living" to Faith Hill, Vincent is a cut above the rest in all aspects, uniquely gifted with a great heart.

Antonio Sanchez - He could easily be named "Mr. Cymbal". What a colorful approach playing cymbals with Pat Metheny. He's one of the leading masters of the Left Foot Clave, scary chops, all directed by a tasty set of HUGE EARS!!!!

Peter Erskine - "Mr. Music", to me he's the prime example of a drummer with total self-control behind the kit. He's got chops, yet, ALWAYS uses them wisely when the music calls for it. One of those rare drummers I'd pay 50.00$ to see perform.

Steve Gadd - Again, another drummer who serves the music FIRST. Took the drums to another level in the 70's, may well be the most imitated drummer of all time. Everyone?s got a Gadd lick hidden somewhere... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Paul Brochu - My Hero. A natural and one of my favorites "musician" who happens to play drums. He's got great technique and a deep intrinsic sense of time, a serious Groove-Seeker with a sweet pocket and explosive chops. He swings hard and he solos in a "story telling" kinda way. One of the most versatile I know (UZEB was only the tip of the Iceberg).

Hey Pocket Player. Thanks so much for suggesting a trade. I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you though. The only material I have of him is small video clips I've been able to pick up online and several interviews posted on his site. I will consider purchasing his MD performance though. So as you can tell, there's nothing worth trading on my harddrive...YET. [img]wink.gif[/img] Ill keep you posted.

Vinnie
Peart
Toss Panos
Elvin
Zigaboo
Bonham
Steve Homes. Not only for his drummer but more importantly, for having the desire, commitment and love for his craft to bring this wonderful site together for all of us. You the man [img]smile.gif[/img]

VINNIE (What can i say, he's nailed everything down in the drum world.)

BOZZIO (One of the most intense drummers out there, you can see and feel the emotion in his playing. Gotta' check out his part time 'Lonely Bears' project.)

SI PHILLIPS ( I've been following this cat's career since his earliest recordings, his unbelievable tasty playing does it for me.)

BILHAM COBLY ( Came out of the TONY school with a voice all of his own.)

BARRIEMORE BARLOW (Man, i still listen to this guy's recordings today and his phrasing and musicality still leave me amazed.)

I think it would have been easier to make a top 10 list ! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ January 18, 2005 01:00 PM: Message edited by: Blue Tav ]</font></font>

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 18, 2005 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Blue Tav ]</font>

Shedder has made my list. I only changed the order:
1. dave weckl -
2. vinnie -
5. gary novak -
3. dave dicenso -
4. jeff porcaro -

...and I can?t close the list without including GADD and ERSKINE.

Bye.

Uh-oh, I've smelled this one b4... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Too many to name or to confine it to a top 10 or 20, much like suspiria [besides, I've already done it in the past]. More like, top 50 or 100..

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Nobody is the chameleon that Gadd is

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would DEF put Ersk [& perhaps Carlos, & maybe Jeff & JR] in that category AW... [img]wink.gif[/img]

WHY hasn't anyone mentioned Carter Beauford??? Billy Cobham...glad to see Tony Williams in the list. John Blackwell is another amazing one.

Do not know about ONLY! 5 absolute all-time faves but these five are always more than enjoyable to watch and listen to.

Virg
Vinnie
Weckl
Tony W.
Dicenso

Dig

Jeff Porcaro

Bill Maxwell

Vinnie Colaiuta

Abraham Laboriel Jr.

Steve Gadd

Those are MY favorites of all time. Those i've listened to the most, and those i still research to find new recordings with.

hmmmm

Vinnie
Gadd
Porcaro
Stephen Price
Prairie Prince

In utterly no order at all...

Jeff Porcaro -
(What that man couldn't say through groove isn't worth hearing - no matter what chops ya got)

Carlos Vega -
(Same as Jeff, the most musical man I ever heard. Such an influence I can't tell you.)

Vinnie Colaiuta -
(No point elaborating on this one)

Steve Gadd -
(See Vinnie Colaiuta)

Dave Weckl -
(Wonderful player, constantly evolving.)


THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT!!!!!

MP

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Originally posted by saywhuut:
WHY hasn't anyone mentioned Carter Beauford??? Billy Cobham...glad to see Tony Williams in the list. John Blackwell is another amazing one.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I used to be huge into Carter and the DMB, and still admire Carter's drumming greatly. I've just found other drummers who, for my taste, I enjoy listening to more, and inspire me to play more. The other cats you mentioned are great as well, as are all of the guys mentioned in this entire thread.

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Originally posted by fuseU1:
Uh-oh, I've smelled this one b4... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Too many to name or to confine it to a top 10 or 20, much like suspiria [besides, I've already done it in the past]. More like, top 50 or 100.. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Nobody is the chameleon that Gadd is

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would DEF put Ersk [& perhaps Carlos, & maybe Jeff & JR] in that category AW... [img]wink.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">haha, well said fuse, and so true about PE (brilliant drummer), and I would also put Carlos, Jeff and JR in the category.

I'd like to see a list that didn't involve fusion/jazz drummers only, there are other kinds of music that also demands technical drumming.

My evolution
In 1984:
Nicko McBrain
Vinnie Appice
Tommy Aldridge
Herman Rarebell [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Dave Holland [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

In 1988:
Barriemore Barlow
Neil Peart
Bill Bruford
Ian Mosley
Phil Collins

In 1992:
Dave Weckl
Dennis Chambers
Paul Brochu
Steve Gadd
Steve Smith

Now:
Dave
Vinnie <s>Appice</s>
Paul
Negro
Jeff

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Originally posted by hantalantas:
I'd like to see a list that didn't involve fusion/jazz drummers only, there are other kinds of music that also demands technical drumming.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not all lists have "fusion and jazz drummers only" (why this is a bad thing is way beyond me). Mine includes David Garibaldi, not a fusion/jazz drummer, Zig from The Meters, and Clyde Stubblefield/JabO Starks from James Brown's bands. Weckl and Gadd are on there too, but they deserve the mention due to the influence and inspiration they give me.

I gotta agree with Fuse, too many to list, but since I'm stuck in 4 feet of snow I think I can give it a shot. [img]wink.gif[/img]

1. Vinnie-the greatest ever
2. Virgil-he's also the greatest ever
3. Pete Zeldman-the multi-dimensional (and demential [img]wink.gif[/img] ) rhythmic visionary
4. Jack Dejohnette-the multi-directional rhythm man
5. Zach Danziger-a magician of time and space

Honorable mentions-Tain, Roy, Elvin, Bill Bruford circa 80's King Crimson-Bill and Adrian Belew were straight up geniuses in the 80's. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

Hantalantas,

do you know everyone on my list? Specifically Stephen Price and Prairie Prince? Jeff Porcaro isn't a jazz/fusion drummer. Stephen Price was the drummer from Pablo Cruis and Prairie Prince is/was the drummer from The Tubes, as well as sessions with many others. Hardley jazz/fusion. These guys are on my list because they were able to play great, clever, drum parts in a pop music context, while still serving the music, and having a KILLER pocket and groove.

But, that's just me...

Danny