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I live in such a wonderful place.
I dont think they all lived in the same town.
...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAH...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by GravyTrain:
Do you wake up one morning and say, hey, somehow we just "misplaced" a small town?
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Yep. The place is called Joplin, MO. I haven't met a female who lived there who wasn't sexually assaulted at least once while there.
How do you lose 33,000 people?
Do you wake up one morning and say, hey, somehow we just "misplaced" a small town?
that is horrible.
I've been to Joplin before, great town. Never had a problem with it. Spent a lot of time at either the mall or the basketball gyms there.
When i said that about a town. I was meaning that "losing" 30,000 people is the equivalent of losing a small town. not that all 30,000 people lived in that same town.
right, i think we understood, gravy.
but i agree with you... and prolly everyone else
here thinkin it...
ain't NO WAY those people are just 'invisible'...
if government agencies can discover as much as
they can about the 9-11 attacks (here in america)
as fast as they did...
ain't no way they 'lost' 30k+ sexual offenders
...unless....
sexual offence isn't as bad as we are expected to believe
I don't think it's right that sex offenders should be made to report to an agency each year to register their details so that when they move into suburbia, the other suburbanites should be informed.
if they've been let out of prison/wherever, then they should be allowed to integrate into society as any other prison releasee would. otherwise, why release them at all?
Indeed. Other criminals do not have to report where they are going after they get out. Only those whose crimes can be somehow related to sex. Dumb dumb dumb.
*for the children*
group hug?
i've only received the police pamphlet twice in
my life. the pamphlet that reveals the persons
identity, known address, phone number, crime info.
picture... known relatives...
everything about the criminal is on this pamphlet.
the first one i received was when i worked at
the oh-so-posh florist... in which my bosses
made copies of the pamphlet -- posted it on the
doors of the building, and left a stack of them
by the cash register for all the customers.
the second came when i moved here, to conway...
a month or two later, it was taped to my door.
although i do not remember the offence of the
first criminal, i do remember that the one posted
here was from a child molester/murderer... who,
based on the pamphlet, lived a few blocks down
from me.
i agree with SF... as usual. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
although i suppose the community may have a right
to know... it also has the MAJOR potential to
establish hate crimes toward the ex-con.
of course, this type of 'social service' always
makes me remember the middle ages... when criminals
basically served their time/received punishment
for their crimes... and then served up to the
community for a life of banishment.
this is cruel.
Did the florist also sell torches and pitchforks?
If I was a flourist, I would.
I think you're all wrong, and somewhat right.
The real answer, and something that is NEVER DONE...
anytime any government agency or some investigative agency creates a "file" on someone, that person should have a right to respond on the very piece of paper that has the "investigations" results.
I would apply this rule to all Americans, ANY report that gets circulated about you, you should have the right to "attach" a response so that gets circulated
along with the report.
no one is stopping the ex-con from circulating
a 'response'.... did you forget that, alex?
or are you suggesting that in addition to the
pamphlet generated by a government agency...
there should be a secondary pamphlet circulated
by the same or another government agency???
the criminal can circulate information if he wishes
these police pamphlets are truly quite horrible. It's like the police giving the community residents an open invitation for a lynch mob. what incentive does a person have in trying to reform from their past when everyone knows what they did, where they come from and most likely ostracise them from this community?
well shit. if you get pamphlets on convicted paedophiles and whatnot, why don't you get pamphlets on people convicted of grand theft auto, so you know to lock up your cars when they're around.
i don't really believe that the community has the RIGHT to know anything of its residents. that is being far too presumptuous. If there is an inherent RIGHT to know about residents, then everyone should reveal themselves to be put under public scrutiny by the community such as who's having an affair with who, who's got drinking problems, who engages in S&M, whatever. many people confuse RIGHTS with PRIVY or PRIVALEGE
It is not going to happen anytime soon.
question:
why, if guilty, should one apologize????
isn't that just as demeaning?
I wonder what the difference is between someone who just commited a crime, is in prison for it, and one that did his time, and lives somewhere now.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by shatzy:
or are you suggesting that in addition to the
pamphlet generated by a government agency...
there should be a secondary pamphlet circulated
by the same or another government agency???
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Why do you approach the precipice, then spit in the wind?
Of course the comment would be on the very same piece of paper. There would be a section for the
aforenamed to respond. Of course, the response would be limited, but it would still be an opportunity to say..
I am innocent...blah blah...
I am guilty, and am sorry.
I will do it again if left to my own means...
etc...
Just give the person a chance to respond, and make it part of the public record along with the crime.
thats easy....
the public can't easily ignore them if they live outside of prison
I can ignore anyone at anytime
...unless I make eye contact. Then its over.
liar
you think you are sooooooo smart.
you are. [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#25004f"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by shatzy:
question:
why, if guilty, should one apologize????
isn't that just as demeaning?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just as demeaning as what? As having your name plastered around town and have NO representation.
Besides, the person could be sorry they got caught!
The point is still the same, the person served their time, they are entitled to 25 words, or 50 words, or perhaps one hundred words on any dossier that publicly reminds others of their past crimes.
the government should not be obligated to
attach any sort of 'reply' to the pamphlet.
the fact that the criminal has the right to
voice his/her own opinion on the matter is
enough.