9psi keep it up!!
I am looking to build a website for us sc'd b18b guys. Can you post your dyno charts?
Good luck!!!!!
Sean
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9psi keep it up!!
I am looking to build a website for us sc'd b18b guys. Can you post your dyno charts?
Good luck!!!!!
Sean
Hey FastFour,
My static pressures with the JACKSON FMU are at 39psi!!!
Do you still have the stock Honda FPR?
That's where it's at...
Chuck
Nice 311 reference...
The new album is just plain amazing http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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1995 Milano Red GSR w/goodies
Creeping to the darkside...
Ok guys and gals. Here is the latest poop on my POS:
On June 6th I upgraded the boost pressure on my JRSC from 6lbs (stock) to 9lbs (not stock ) The new pulley is from Endyn and known as their "stepper" pulley. The stock injectors were upgraded from the stock 240cc to Bosch 310's or 320's customized by ISA and Dr. Injector to fit in the rail.
An Apex-i VAFC (yes I know I don't have a VTEC motor, but it works just fine and as 311 would say "...fu@k the naysayers) and a Jackson Racing BTC was also added to the mix.
Now for tuning. The first pull after the new upgrades was good for a whopping 90hp Obviously the thing was drowning in fuel. After several pulls and adjusting the timing and VAFC we were able to muster 182hp and 148lb/ft.
This is only marginally better than the 168.8hp and 137.3 we were able to extract with 6lbs. The only explanation we (ISA) can come up with is the poor little blower is just working too damn hard. The M62 would probably show better gains from an additional 3lbs of boost but the puny M45 does not like it at all. It is noticieable louder though and sounds better IMO.
Now, for everday driving and my impressions of the BTC: The tuning was obviously done at WOT on the dyno. Timing was set at stock (16 degrees) and the runs were made with only 1 click (.25 degree of retard per pound of boost) with the BTC. No detonation was heard after the first pull on the dyno. Driving around town, though, induced detonation fairly often. As long as I have my foot in it and keep the revs up detonation isn't a problem. But if I'm going up a hill under heavy load (like in a gear higher than I should be) it begins to ping.
So now I've played with the VAFC settings while driving and it has helped the detonation problems. A little more of that and maybe some timing adjustment should get rid of the knock. If I can't get rid of it completely I'll go back to 6psi. I had no problems there and the car ran flawlessly and put out respectable power for the lowly B18b.
One of my biggest problem is fuel tuning. Even with several hours on the dyno since the upgrades the fuel continues to be a problem. It would be much easier to play with if I could get the static f/p down from the 56psi with the cartech. The car was just drowning up top and is leaned out up to nearly 30% in places.
But, like with any new toys tuning is key and hopefully I can tune it out, if not I'll go back to 6psi and know that I have a reliable and relatively quick car that I'm not afraid to beat the snot out of.
Thanks (as always) to ISA (Donny and Rickie) for all their time and efforts.
Zach
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94 Civic Coupe/LS Hybrid
JRSC@9psi
Turbo Convert
Import Specialty Automotive (253) 473-2606
Fastfour, Does your car pulls harder than before? Also, are you taking your car to the track anytime soon?
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Fastfour, Does your car pulls harder than before? Also, are you taking your car to the track anytime soon?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think I can tell a little difference. I'm going to the track on the 26th so I'll have time updates then.
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94 Civic Coupe/LS Hybrid
JRSC@9psi
Turbo Convert
Import Specialty Automotive (253) 473-2606
How much did you bought the pulley for? And where did you purchase it?
Fast four, Is it necessary to buy bigger injectors when going 9psi? What's wrong with just using the stock ones.My buddy says it's better to keep everything stock as possible. Maybe That's the reason why your having all this fuel problems.
1 click on the BTC is only .1 deg/psi retard.
When I put the BTC on my car, with stock ignition timing and 6 clicks, detonation was way easier to induce than when I was at 8 degrees timing and no BTC.
Turn that puppy down a bit.
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Greg Holden
96 GSR, JSRC @10psi, All the Goodies!
Best 1/4 ==> 13.937 @ 101.41mph (at 6psi)
My JRSC Install Site
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Holden:
1 click on the BTC is only .1 deg/psi retard.
When I put the BTC on my car, with stock ignition timing and 6 clicks, detonation was way easier to induce than when I was at 8 degrees timing and no BTC.
Turn that puppy down a bit.
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Greg,
Do you mean turn the timing down a bit? I'm a little confused. I'm not convinced the BTC is all it's cracked up to be. I ran 11 degrees of timing at 6psi and never, ever heard detonation at any time, ever. It will probably be up for sale in a bit. So 1 click is .1degree? I thought it was .25degree.
Acuraboy, I got the pulley from Endyn. I would have to say stock injectors at 9psi is an accident waiting to happen. Most here would agree.
Zach
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94 Civic Coupe/LS Hybrid
JRSC@9psi
Turbo Convert
Import Specialty Automotive (253) 473-2606
agreed.
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96 Integra B18B w JRSC@9psi, JR BTC, Venom 270's, Walbro 342, T.O.O. FPR mod, DC 4-2-1, DC Catback, ST Rear Swaybar, etc. etc.
fastfour: " I'm not convinced the BTC is all it's cracked up to be." You got that right!
I meant to turn the BTC up to 4-6 clicks. I might try lowering static timing to 14 degrees and lowering the BTC, but I don't really have a problem as is.
My post above was for when my GSR was at 6psi. I ran 10 degrees timing with no BTC and no detonation. Then I added the BTC and went as above, and detonation could be evoked.
My car does have really smooth part throttle and transion response, partly because of the BTC.
Greg
[This message has been edited by Holden (edited June 25, 2001).]
The gas savings from installing the BTC has already paid for itself many times over.
Chuck
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96 Integra B18B w JRSC@9psi, JR BTC, Venom 270's, Walbro 342, T.O.O. FPR mod, DC 4-2-1, DC Catback, ST Rear Swaybar, etc. etc.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Holden:
fastfour: " I'm not convinced the BTC is all it's cracked up to be." You got that right!
I meant to turn the BTC up to 4-6 clicks. I might try lowering static timing to 14 degrees and lowering the BTC, but I don't really have a problem as is.
My post above was for when my GSR was at 6psi. I ran 10 degrees timing with no BTC and no detonation. Then I added the BTC and went as above, and detonation could be evoked.
My car does have really smooth part throttle and transion response, partly because of the BTC.
Greg
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I'm going to turn it off and try 13 degress again and see where I am. I have a feeling it's coming out.
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94 Civic Coupe/LS Hybrid
JRSC@9psi
Turbo Convert
Import Specialty Automotive (253) 473-2606
Chuck,
Did you have any tuning problems with your car going with the 270 injectors and 9psi. I'm thinking of doing the same, what's your opinion?
Zach,
Great job man, I'm going to get my car tested in a week or two, then I'll decide what to do next about going to 9psi or not.
BlownIntegra:
I have my BTC set at 3 clicks, and the important part of the whole setup is to get the fuel pressures down.
Before I did the mod to the stock FPR, i had big problems between 4000-and 6800... the mod fixed this, and the car is running excellent.
So to answer your question, no problems. I'm running the blower just on the edge of diminishing returns, and without sending it to Endyn it can be pushed no further.
Chuck