Guns n Roses reunion? (since no one else posted this)

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February 13th, 2006, 05:51 PM
creeper2

"COULD THE ILLUSION ERA GUNS N ROSES LINE-UP REALLY RETURN?:

Is the impossible actually being considered? Rumors of a Guns N Roses re-union appear to be gathering strength. It all started at British photographer/journalist Ross Halfin's website when he stated that the original Guns N' Roses lineup would get back together in June to play at the Download Festival in England, with Metallica also lined up to play.

That comment was soon withdrawn. Posted was: "I have to write some copy this weekend on Guns 'N Roses for a feature to go with my photos. My mind is blank at the moment. The thing is if you tell the truth it sets off too many wars, or egos way out of control. The original line-up is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, Metallica, if Lars can be bothered to turn up."

Now this - on the official Cult message board, frontman Ian Astbury has responded to a post asking after the possible 2006 touring line-up for The Cult. His response: "I love Matt he is a sweetheart..........Velvet Revolver Guns and Roses rumoured return W/SLASH and AXL .......Hey the Cult can barly contain Billy and Myself......But we will have a SHITHOT band for you so patience please."

So Use Your Illusion drummer Matt Sorum appears too busy for Cult duties it seems! Whether this will happen, if it will be a one-off performance or where this will leave the Chinese Democracy release and new Velvet Revolver releases are all questions to be answered in the coming weeks."
February 13th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Carl I.

Well, Sorum is not an "original", and probably not the drummer most people would want to see behind the kit. I would bet that the version we would see would be Axl, Slash, Sorum, Gilby and Duff. In other words, I would bet we get the Illusion version long before we would ever see an Appetite version back on stage. I would be surprised if Izzy were to go back on stage with them, and I would die if they asked Adler back. They all seem to forget that he was ever with them, as does the rest of the world.
February 13th, 2006, 06:46 PM
creeper2

in my opinion, they, being Guns n Roses, lost all their swagger once Adler and Izzy left. Sorum might be more talented as a drummer (debatable) but Adler is Guns N Roses. Adler had the groove where Sorum had the technique and to me GnR were all about swagger and groove.

Carl, did you read Adlers 'interview' over at Sludge? very good read, very in depth.

I don't think you will ever get the Appetite line up together again and i don't think i would want to see it anyway. I love Guns n Roses, Appetite era, but if you can't top it, which i doubt they could, then they should just leave it in the past.
February 13th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Carl I.

No, I didn't see the interview. Link?

I'm not a GnR fan at all, but I am an Izzy fan. So for that, I would hate to see a full fledged "reunion", as it would go against all that Izzy seems to be. Now, I could see them (the Appetite line-up) doing a one-off gig at a small club just for shits and grins. That is, if Axl could see it in himself to "have fun" for one night, leave the egos at the door, and leave the "need to get BIG MONEY" at the door also. So, in other words, I don't expect it to ever happen. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
February 13th, 2006, 10:08 PM
andy69

I read today in the Sun newspaper here that Slash has stated that The Chines Democracy album will be out during March this year!!! (Which is not far away) Strange that Slash has made tthe statement though, which would fuel the fire that he is/has been in contact with Axl???
February 13th, 2006, 10:47 PM
creeper2

part 1
http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index...1127&Itemid=37

part 2
http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index...1138&Itemid=37

part 3
http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index...1139&Itemid=37
February 14th, 2006, 02:06 AM
Carl I.

Hmmmmm, 'kay...I guess we know why Adler isn't allowed back in any of the bands. It seems that he can't stay off the drugs. I didn't know AA was done for abuse. Idiot. Pity, I bet he's a cool guy. But at the same time, I think it wouldn't take a psychologist to figure out why he keeps doing drugs.
February 14th, 2006, 03:21 AM
AlAlvin

Didn't Slash hand pick Gilby and didn't Axl have a big issue from day one? I thought it was Axl who told Slash to give him the boot cause he refused to talk to him at all.
February 14th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Laur

... that new picture of Axl on Metal Sludge doesn't make me want to hear anything or see any reunion, god he looks like a drunk Teletubbie or something. I'd rather see Velvet Revolver.

About Sorum/Adler, yes Matt Sorum is a better drummer but he's more like a professional studio drummer whereas Adler was perfect for "appetite for destruction" because it was more rock'n'roll, wild. But from what I read, they fired him because he just couldn't play an entire song anymore because of the drugs...

[ February 14, 2006 02:08 PM: Message edited by: Laur ]
February 15th, 2006, 08:47 PM
alii_69

Quote:

Originally posted by Laur:
... But from what I read, they fired him because he just couldn't play an entire song anymore because of the drugs...

[ February 14, 2006 02:08 PM: Message edited by: Laur ]

YEah... the rest of Guns n Roses fired him cos of the drugs... oh the hypocracy!! I think it's more cos he didn't share them. must've been. that, or giving blow jobs for crack....
February 16th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Ian Rich Rags

I don't think the hypocarcy is quite that relevant. There is great line in the Clash DVD Westway to the world, where Joe Strummer is talking about their drummer Topper Headon getting into smack. The emphasis isnt so much about drugs in general but the effect of the particular drug on the player. Heroin being a suppressant not a stimulant.

"Heroin is an acceptable drug for, say, horn players becuase they just float across the the beat painting nice colours and creating light and shade. Drummers, however, are the rock at the back. They have to be banging in that nail- bang - bang - bang, and everyone else follows it. Once the drummer is using smack, the whole sound falls apart from the bottom up.

If Slash and Axl take to the stage together I'll show my arse in Harrods window during the sales.
Unlike all the other reunion gigs popping up I don't think Slash, Duff, or Axl need the dough and that is usually the only real reason for doing it. Look at Crue. Tommy and Vince couldnt be in the same room as each other except when press or performance demanded it. Don't tell me they did that recent reunion tour for old times sake.
February 16th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Laur

very true, drummers on heroine: never a good thing!
Doesn't seem too good for guitar players too, listen to Johnny Thunders during his dark days [img]frown.gif[/img]
February 16th, 2006, 11:23 AM
Hairglamfan

Quote:

Originally posted by IH Rich Rags:
If Slash and Axl take to the stage together I'll show my arse in Harrods window during the sales.

LMOA. Mind n wipe it first please!
February 16th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Hud McG

Quote:

Originally posted by Laur:
very true, drummers on heroine: never a good thing!
Doesn't seem too good for guitar players too, listen to Johnny Thunders during his dark days [img]frown.gif[/img]

Just about all Johnnys days after about 74 were dark. As for Bums n Noses I could'nt care less appetite was quite good and everything after was(this is only my opinion, But if you want an arguement feel free to comment)Shit.
If Razzle had'nt been such an arsehole and got in a sports car with a guy he knew was drunk at the wheel Geffen would never have needed a substitute Hanoi.
H
February 16th, 2006, 02:45 PM
creeper2

Quote:

Originally posted by Hud McG:
If Razzle had'nt been such an arsehole and got in a sports car with a guy he knew was drunk at the wheel Geffen would never have needed a substitute Hanoi.
H

but wouldn't this further the need for Geffen to sign another Hanoi'ish' band? if Hanoi continued on (though Sam was already leaving and Nasty was having thoughts too) and became larger then life, then EVERY record label would be trying to sign the next Hanoi Rocks. Geffen had nothing to do with Hanoi Rocks until Uzi Suicide (owned by Geffen) re-released some of their back catalog through Axl's prodding. Hanoi Rocks are my favorite band of all time, this is by no means bashing them but they were never going to be the gods of rock in roll in the media's eye. yes they were influential on many of the late 80's early 90's bands but that doesn't always translate over to record sales and at the end of the day, that's all record companies care about.

you can also say that if Mike was more careful and didn't break his ankle in Syracuse, then Hanoi wouldn't had to have cancelled their tour which means they wouldn't have been sent across the country to do radio and magazine promotions, which means they wouldn't have met Motley Crue at that time which means blah blah blah .... life happens; to pick out one moment in time is not fair.
February 16th, 2006, 03:35 PM
deviantdee

I think Axl knows that his celebrity cache
is quickly dissolving, hence lots of the un-
expected recent sightings. Thankfully, it sounds
like someone from PR (or accounting) has told
him to wake the fuck up and release/tour the
'CD' CD before people stop giving a shit. What I
can remember (from 'CD') during the Leeds'02
gig sounded interesting.

Now, if only he'd stop dressing like a flabby,
redneck Ali-G.

D.

[ February 16, 2006 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Deviant D ]
February 16th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Dean Marshall

.. Yeah with a Ginger twat out and the addition of a great singer/frontman .. there are indeed - furking awesome, havent you heard, there called Velvet Revolver !!!!(lmfto) Axle Blows .. its official !

[ February 16, 2006 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Marshy ]
February 17th, 2006, 04:36 AM
The Real Armitage

I think Guns N Roses have past their sell by date. I saw them at the Marquee and Hammersmith. Fantastic for that period of time. Wembley with Gilby....Different band, different songs. Lost that edge. Didn't bother to see them in Docklands. Can't see the point in the "original" Guns reforming at the moment. If they did it would have to be a back to basics band. No horn section, backing singers and a million keyboard players. Just an honest to God R n R band.
February 17th, 2006, 09:34 AM
Ian Rich Rags

Totally agree with you Marshster. VR are the band GnR could have been. if Axl toured with performing elephants blowing flames from their trunks and ended the show by being fired into space sat on a giant blow up Dita von Teese, he still wouldn't get a sniff.

Duff & Slash, Matt, have always just got on with being in a band and playing music. All Axl has ever done (for the most part) is make excuses for not having released anything. As D say, who gives fuck anymore Axl, your old news man.
February 17th, 2006, 09:42 AM
deviantdee

If Velvet Revolver are the band Guns N'Roses
should have been, are Velvet Revolver the band
Stone Temple Pilots could have been? Or the other
way around? [img]confused.gif[/img]

D.
February 17th, 2006, 10:08 AM
Hairglamfan

Daz
Never ask that question on a Friday as my brain is frazzled. Or a Monday for that matter as my brain is asleep. It rouses on a Tuesday and peeks on Wednesday between 2pm - 2.30pm.
February 17th, 2006, 11:26 AM
deviantdee

I'll make a note. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Curiously, how many STP tracks, if any, do
VR perform live?

D.

[ February 17, 2006 07:27 AM: Message edited by: Deviant D ]
February 17th, 2006, 11:43 AM
Hairglamfan

Seen them once, have two shows on video but they don't do any. May have changed now.
February 17th, 2006, 11:49 AM
deviantdee

Pfe! What a rip. Maybe Slash can't play them?
Hohoho.

D.
February 17th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Ian Rich Rags

Both times Ive seen them they have encored with A STP song and a Gunners song.
February 17th, 2006, 03:00 PM
creeper2

a little velvet revolver news for you

Matt Sorum to ABC News Radio:

During the same interview, Sorum revealed that VELVET REVOLVER are planning to move in a different direction on their new album, which has the working title of "Libertad".

"Our first album was very aggressive and just in-your-face. and we made it very quickly," Sorum explained. "And this album we just really want to, like, you know, we want to pull it back a bit, groove a little harder, [make it] a little more danceable. We've talked about working with people like [pop superstar] Pharrell [Williams] just for the… just to check it out. I mean, it's not rock and roll, but it might be different. Who knows?! I don't know."
February 17th, 2006, 03:11 PM
Stacey0471

Sounds like Sorum might be on drugs too! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
February 17th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Hud McG

Quote:

Originally posted by creeper2:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Hud McG:
If Razzle had'nt been such an arsehole and got in a sports car with a guy he knew was drunk at the wheel Geffen would never have needed a substitute Hanoi.
H

but wouldn't this further the need for Geffen to sign another Hanoi'ish' band? if Hanoi continued on (though Sam was already leaving and Nasty was having thoughts too) and became larger then life, then EVERY record label would be trying to sign the next Hanoi Rocks. Geffen had nothing to do with Hanoi Rocks until Uzi Suicide (owned by Geffen) re-released some of their back catalog through Axl's prodding. Hanoi Rocks are my favorite band of all time, this is by no means bashing them but they were never going to be the gods of rock in roll in the media's eye. yes they were influential on many of the late 80's early 90's bands but that doesn't always translate over to record sales and at the end of the day, that's all record companies care about.

you can also say that if Mike was more careful and didn't break his ankle in Syracuse, then Hanoi wouldn't had to have cancelled their tour which means they wouldn't have been sent across the country to do radio and magazine promotions, which means they wouldn't have met Motley Crue at that time which means blah blah blah .... life happens; to pick out one moment in time is not fair.<hr /></blockquote>Did'nt Geffen originally distribute the Hanoi stuff in the USA, hence them doing the reissues.
As for getting in a car with a drunk person at the wheel i really should'nt need to explain that one.
H
February 17th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Carl I.

No. The first three Hanoi's were never released in the US until the Geffen/Uzi Suicide releases. "Mystery City" was on...PVC I believe, and "Two Steps" is on Epic.
February 18th, 2006, 04:04 AM
Dean Marshall

Sorum on Drugz .. Dats mi Boy !