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Ok some MP3's are now up on www.benbarnett.net/louie
tiempo de festival is on there and is still a little shite, but im sick of playing it now [img]smile.gif[/img]
"again and again" and "Afro-Waltz" are swingers, while funky monk is....well....funky.....or supposed to be [img]confused.gif[/img]
the songs are between 3-5Mb and the grooves 2-3Mb
a drum solo has yet to be added.....
I don't know if it's just my end, but none of them are loading for me. [img]frown.gif[/img]
They're loading for me, but the files are so big it's gonna take about an hour to download each one...
try right clicking and "save target as".....i'll try and fix it.
One started loading just now, got very slowly to 60kb loaded, and stopped, No prob, it's most likely my crappy ISP. I'll try again later. I'm looking forward to hearing louie's playing, cos I know how damn good it is [img]smile.gif[/img]
Wow ! We all know that you are an outstanding drummer, but this is really great playing !
I can?t stop listening to tiempo de festival. Dave would be impressed. How did you record this tune ? The drum sound is very nice.
Beyond any question, you will make your way to the top ! [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
Thx for sharing !
I completely agree with drumhead. Excellent playing on festival louie, that's some HARD shit to play. Congratulations on all the hard work and time you so obviously invested in it. If that's how good you are now at 17, AND you haven't even been to berklee yet, I cannot imagine what a monster you will be in a few years when you finish the course. Well, I can actually, you're gonna be a uber-monster player! As if you're not already. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Very nice Louie.......... [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
1 thing, on your shuffle I would relax the right hand a tad more, a little on the top side, needs more of a lope. I can see just by listening how you are playing it, your hand needs to stay closer and lower to the hat. Just my 2 cents.
Louie,
Kill me, Louie!
Great 'Latin' groove!
Super 'Afro-Waltz' and 'Swing'!
I dug the 'Shuffle' too - especially
your 'walk around it', with the kick!
'Again and Again' slayed me again
and again! I hear a lot of what I
love in you! Just great!
'Funky Monk' was right on!
If that wasn't enough, you slap my
face with 'Tiempo de Fiesta'!
These are great tunes to work with!
You dawg! You like that, don't you?
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I am VERY impressed! You make me
want to quit and play, all at the
same time!
Where did you get these samples
or could this be a band that you
worked with?
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 04, 2004 12:17 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>
Great job louie! can't agree more with Pete C. [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img]
Very nice playing indeed Louie, Man some of you guy's are young and just tearing it up, LOOK OUT WORLD! Keep up the Good work, I dig listening to guy's stuff on HOD especially when they are part of the community and take the time to share and discuss drumming and music with others. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Regards Dig
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 04, 2004 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Digital Man ]</font>
ok...drum solo just added to the page of clips....check it out if u fancy.
and thanks guys for the encouraging comments....its great [img]smile.gif[/img]
(oh and all the skips in the recordings are due to the mini disc overloading)
ok...drum solo just added to the page of clips....check it out if u fancy.
and thanks guys for the encouraging comments....its great [img]smile.gif[/img]
It all sounds great, thanks for posting!
Great playing, man! Hopefully I'll be that good someday.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LoL nice solo Louie. I can't see what you can learn at berkelee, except jamming with great muscisians, hehe you'll might end up teaching there after a couple of yearsQuote:
Originally posted by palmerlouie:
ok...drum solo just added to the page of clips....check it out if u fancy.
and thanks guys for the encouraging comments....its great [img]smile.gif[/img]
(oh and all the skips in the recordings are due to the mini disc overloading)
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Where did you get the funky monk track? A local band..midi..???
Kurt..i WISH that was a local band! but its a tune played by Zoro from the Vic Firth CD.
Great job Louie!
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Is that a play-along, then?
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sorry peter...yes they are all play alongs.
afro waltz is from robby ameen's book, again&again is from weckls contemporary+1 package, funky monk is from the vic firth cd and the tiempo one is off weckls new book.
PM me if u need any further info....titles etc.
Great job on Tiempo, Louie. Really nice precision on the horn hits.
Very cool solo also.
Let's see did you use:
Coated Ambassadors or Emperors on the toms?
Powerstroke 3 on the kick?
What kit did you use?
Keep up the nice playin'!
wow, did someone say that you're only 17?
great job on the tunes as well as your solos. you definitely have a mature touch and sense of dynamics not to mention facility that serves the music so well.
i also felt that your solo wasn't just a chops fest show, but rather, had a direction and was taking me places. congratulations to you and hope that you have an illustrious career as a musician! [img]smile.gif[/img]
"it's not the years, it's the mileage" - Andy Vermiglio
Bravo maestro! Killin that Weckl tune. Nice sound and feel. If you are 17- <font size="4">I QUIT !</font>
Beautiful solo!
I did PM you, PL.
Of course, everyone is loving your
sounds! Can you blame them?
'Fiesta' is my favorite. Tell me
what it was like to work on and
how you feel about how it went.
I think that tunes like that are a
real challenge, which, I must say,
you rose up to magnificently!
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 05, 2004 04:48 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>
Louie,
Here I go again asking about cymbals, so apologies, but what ride is that in your clips? Sounds really nice.
Great, palmer:
Agree with Randy Walker about the shuffle groove.
I repeat man, GREAT!!
About the sound:
I like the sound in the solo, very natural and powerful, but it is different to the drum sound in the grooves and the playalongs.I like the drum solo sound more. Compare the two sounds: shuffle and the solo.
I am specially interested in the technical aspects. Mics, place (your house,a studio), method used, etc...
Thanks Palmer.
Man, this is great. Absolutely killer drumming on all of these, especially on Tiempo de Festival! You ripped it!
ok guys....thanks so much for the positive comments....i really appreciate it coming from people who know there stuff.
ok one question at a time...
1) i just turned 18
2) I use coated ambassadors on top, clear on bottom, power 3 on bass.....bought new head for snare "Evans ST dry" (the one with the holes at the edges),....only used on the drum solo....sounds great.
2) Main ride was a K custom special dry ride (i love it) and a left side ride as a 2nd one.
3) mic positions etc....its in a small room with two beds (our guest bedroom) and i used my new small yamaha mixer (4 mic inputs) and borrowed an average shure drum set mic kit....put a bass drum mic inside the drum, one overhead (my own samson condenser mic) and put one mic between 10 & 12 and one between 14 & 16......the shuffle groove was recorded with a snare mic......for the rest i think i let the overhead get the snare....played with a little EQ.....the sound is very good considering....
4) and peter your question....indeed the tiempo piece was a big challenge to me. one of my weak points is hitting accents with the band and keeping the time flowing nicely.....i had part of a lesson with thomas on this subject.....the book with the cd arrived on last saturday and i had been playing along to the original studio version on pads.......and the first time i listened thru to the minus drums version with the chart infront of me....so many nuances became apparant; it was a great help
....but the first few times thru it was hopeless.....i was a about to sort of give up and admit that it would never be ready for my exam (tomorrow).............but i didnt want it to beat me....so i spent from 10am til about 6pm practicing it. literally....no breaks....just went for it.
there are three or four tough spots.....the 1st is the ridiculous first section of stabs (at 59 seconds) then the 6/8 part, then the stabs while soloing, then the one bar drum breaks that appear twice in the piece. i looped these on my mini disc and did them allllllllllll day long.
first catching the stabs etc....then orchestrating....then sorting out feel, then dynamics....etc.
its only yesterday and today that i feel ok with it....the version u guys hear, i recorded like on friday....i had been trying to do a perfect take for the whole weekend....but there was always ONE flipping spot that went wrong.....or i'd get a good version and the mini disc overloaded and the sound went out in a vital part...annoying!
but i felt so good having accomplished it....completed a task. it felt good. esp. considering ive always seen weckl play it and thought it to be waaaayyyy above me.....which it still is in many respects....but at least i can get thru it now.
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Excellent playing on all those clips Louie, you really sound great. Keep it up!!
Louie( or can I call you dave W [img]tongue.gif[/img] ),
I never got to try a special dry light ride, and I went to wembley specially to try one, but they only had the dry light ride, hence I bought that and love it. But having heard yours, I'm definitely gonna continue to look out for one. Sounds like it may penetrate a bit more, yet still has the characteristics of mine. Anyway, nuff of that. I know what you mean about taking hours to get one take. On a piece recently, (nothing like the difficulty level of yours), but still 5 minutes long, I also kept doing take after take just because I kept making different mistakes, and yes, it's very frustrating. Makes us appreciate how skillful drums are. You have it though mate. Feel the force Louie [img]wink.gif[/img]
Really great stuff....sounds awesome....I actually just went through that afro waltz a few weeks ago aswell....I've been working my way through Robby Ameen's "Funkifying the Clave" book aswell....it's a killer book....it was cool to hear someone else play that tune aswell....
the weckl tune (tiempo) was burning...that was sweet....I have one of the older weckl play alongs which was alot of fun to go through, but there was nothing in that book like Tiempo...you killed that tune.... [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
Congrats Louie!! [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
That "Tiempo di Festival" just smokes!
I better get this package too.
Nice sound! Were there any FX on the drums?
Also what causes this overload skipping on the minidisc? I'm thinking about getting one, but is it something you have to live with?
I think what Louie is saying is that the audio peaked on the minidisc into the red zone which is a horrible noise in the digital world , which might appear to be skipping.
Okay, I see. Thanx Randy.
Great job Louie! I agree with eveyone's comments about the shuffle feel. Personally, I can't pull off a decent shuffle feel unless I'm TOTALLY warmed up. Also, practice (and record and listen) playing the shuffle beat with transitional fills. I've found THAT is the hardest part for most drummers: playing a good transition fill and coming back into the shuffle nice and smooth with great feel.
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Danny
I presume if the mic was picking up too much volume it was cutting out. If that's what you mean by skipping. I heard a bit of cutting out.
PL,
On the shuffle - If you want to work
on it, I might have a suggestion.
Work on this triplet, accenting the second
of the RR's:
RR-L RR-L RR-L RR-L etc.
On the "Tiempo..." tune, thanks for being
so open with me about it. Let me encourage
you to play this OVER AND OVER AND OVER
again. Don't stop playing this tune!
Think about the horns. Place them above
everything else, except for the feel of
the tune. I want to hear more takes on
this in the future and I bet that when I
do, I'm going to hear you play it differ-
ently and more comfortably, for sure and
already, you're killing on it!
Another question on it - Did you try to
do it all at once or did you break it up
into sections ("Tiempo...")?
It's a ground-breaker, PL. I am very ex-
cited for you!
I want to get a hold of these tunes. I
envy you. Keep it up!
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I don't think the mic was cutting out as much as I think it's just due to the signal to the minidisc was overloading. I have had that happen before.