Fast and Furious

Fast and Furious

I didn't see this movie, but I hate it nonetheless. I have read about the increase in street racing accidents and deaths in my own community that seem to coincide with the release of this movie. (sometimes local news only report tragedies that are "in" that week or month, but it still seems as if the carnage has increased)

There was one scene in the movie that was shown as a TV clip where this guy trys to impress his date by driving at an excessively high rate of speed without taking his eyes off of her.

They play chicken to see who will unlock stares with each other and look back at the road as they speed down anytown USA. It's really entertaining to watch, until I realize that some idiots out there WILL try this at "home", or should I say on the public streets, and no doubt maim OTHERS.

I mean, if they would only hurt themselves, then in one sense it's no business of mine. But people racing cars at what sounds like a hundred miles an hour while staring at their date rather than looking at the road ahead creates consequences in real life for others.

And even if this comes to pass, and the motion picture studio is sued, their insurance policies will kick in and insulate them.

Hey there.

In a word. B*LLOCKS.

Idiots will be idiots. They dont need movies to show them how to be one.

Movies are not to blame. Censorship is NOT the answer.

Despin out.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 04, 2003 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Despin ]</font>

I agree wholeheartedly with Despin. Kids have been driving like idiots and playing chicken long before The Fast and the Furious came out.

Personally, I think the media is just looking for stories...as usual. They did the same sort of coverage here for the week the 2nd one came out, then the next week they went back to "Cat Saved by Heroic Fireman in Springettsbury Township- Elderly Woman 'Glad to Have Jingles Back'".

Ouch, the censorship word.

Are you going to tell me that the kids who laid down in the middle of freeways and urban streets after a movie came out depicting this action were also unrelated to the release of that movie? (I forgot the name of the movie, it came out 3-4 years ago). (edit, it was called "The Program")

The big differnce is at least those kids primarily putting their own lives and health at risk over others. (although I could see some poor schmuck swerving their car off the road trying to avoid one of these idiots).

A car weighs several thousand pounds, and is a weapon when handled improperly. That particular scene about the Chicken Stare should not have been included in Fast and Furious.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 04, 2003 09:59 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]</font>

Hey there.

"Are you going to tell me that the kids who laid down in the middle of freeways and urban streets after a movie came out depicting this action were also unrelated to the release of that movie? (I forgot the name of the movie, it came out 3-4 years ago)."

The big differnce is at least those kids primarily putting their own lives and health at risk over others. (although I could see some poor schmuck swerving their car off the road trying to avoid one of these idiots).

A car weighs several thousand pounds, and is a weapon when handled improperly. That particular scene I described above should not have been included in the movie."

Missed...... point..... Completely......

Despin out.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 04, 2003 05:41 PM: Message edited by: Despin ]</font>

Oh no Alex you are so wrong. If someone is a fool and decides to drive a car dangerously then they will drive dangerously whether they have seen a film they want to imitate or not.

Whether films have violent or disturbing scenes or not people will hurt and murder other people. I agree that people will imitate films for what ever reason, but that don't mean the film is to blame. Someone unbalanced enough to commit violent acts or crimes doesn't need a film to make them do it. Sooner or later they will do it anyway.

So a person who gets into a car to see how fast they can drive while not looking at the road is a
gene deficient accident waiting to happen and therefore we should accept that and not limit the filmmaker in anyway in their "vision". [img]confused.gif[/img]

Maybe a compromise solution could be that ticket prices to these kinds of movies MUST be higher, and the tickets could be printed in blood red. [img]mad.gif[/img]

Hey there.

Still... Missing... Point... Completely...

Despin out.

heheheh...missed point completely posts are cracking me up.

If we made films with every frame carefully avoiding anything that could possibly turn "genetic deficiencies" violent...we would not have films. I dunno how related this is, but its interesting: There was a study done on child molesters/rapists in the 80s on what turned them on, and one constant turn-on was the girl with the towel over her bum in the Coppertone or some such company sunblock ads (the girl in the TV spots was Jodie Foster!). She did not make them serial rapists, but got them sexually charged.

Now that I'm off topic anyway, kids leaving the theater thinking that movie was good should do future generations a favor by getting their ***** run over.

Mendon

"Missing the point" without defining what the point is, is lame.

BACK TO THE FUTURE
A teenage boy rides a skateboard through the streets, hopping into a crowded convertible, running through it and is able to land back on the skateboard as it rolled under the moving vehicle. This results in a car accident.

THE GOONIES
A young boy stuffs his mouth full of rare jewels, almost choking on them.

While driving his car, a teenager holds onto the arm of another teenager, against his will, who is riding his bike. As the car speeds, so does the young man on the bike and when released, is thrust off a cliff.

INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
A young boy, obviously not old enough or big enough to drive a car, is in fact operating an automobile with the help of wooden blocks fastened to his shoes so he can reach the peddles.

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE
A young teenage boy runs atop a speeding train.

STAND BY ME
A small group of young boys foolishly cross a lengthy bridge, walking on the railroad tracks. Their very lives are in danger as the train catches up to them. One of them must jump off the bridge, falling to the ground to escape the speeding locamotive.

HOME ALONE
A young boy boobie traps his own home with hazardous household items in attempt to foil two dangerous, adult serial burglars.

NATIONAL LAMPOONS VACATION
After swimming naked in a pool with another woman, a fed-up husband and father of two holds security guards at gunpoint with a pellet gun, ordering them to allow his family to enjoy the thrilling amusement rides at a closed amusement park. The park is closed for repairs. This "family man" is putting everyone's lives in danger, including those of his two young, innocent children.

Hey there.

Ban them. BAN THEM ALL,

Despin out.

GreatWarEagle, those are great examples, but to me, each one of those scenes you describe depicts a dangerous event. We know it's a dangerous event as we watch it.

The Fast and Furious scene just feels different from the scenes you described.

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Hey there.

Reading some of the idiotic things you wrote in the 2 Fast 2 Furious topid I would want rid of them too.

Despin out.

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Automatically censoring any discussion of what could be censored makes you a bigger dimwit than those you scorn.

Ah, the great censorship debate (AGAIN!)It will never be resolved, only imposed. But I'll add my opinion:

It's human nature to copy the behaviour of others.

In children the act of copying and re-enacting behaviour is much greater. That's why I agree with certification as a guidance.

People will always copy what they see, even copying (in my opinion) a rubbish film by racing on the streets. That's why I don't agree with censorship cutting, it's pointless. Who should decide what films are acceptable for any other adult to see?

The whole 80's 'video-nasty' debacle is a good example that the whole censorship argument is a joke, films are an easy scapegoat. Mary Whitehouse and her followers can kiss my uncensored *** ! ( &lt;&lt;&lt; oh, the irony!)

Good example above, has that censored 'swear-word' prevented anyone here from ever daring to say it?

Don't worry about it Alex, fools will be fools with or without movies.

Hi,

I don't know how big of a show it is in the U.K., but here in north America the show 'Jack-*** ' has been the most famous for the kids hurting themselves in the manner depicted on screen recently. The show follows a bunch of daredevil like guys who go around and find different things to jump off of, drive off of, or just plain hurt themselves to see what happens. My opinion of that show is that it is **** , like the lowest common denominator dark side of filmmaking. But with that said I know, and have seen people who try to do things they've seen on the show. Why? Because they are stupid. Sometimes alcohol is involved, sometimes it is a bet, sometimes it is for fun, but all of the times it is their decision. If the show wasn't on the air, they would be less inclined to hurt themselves in that manner, but would do it in another. Plain and simple. Movies, T.V., etc don't create self-harming people, they just give them some specific ideas on what to duplicate. However, even if they hadn't seen the show, they would still do something equally detrimental and unintelligent.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 07, 2003 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Yammeryammeryammer ]</font>

Once again, I'm in complete agreement with you.

But what if ******* showed stunts like disabling someones brake line in their car, or putting a hole in a condom then giving them out for free at some street corner, or changing medical lables on prescription drugs......etc...

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 07, 2003 05:06 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]</font>

Dont ban the films
Ban the idiots

We are all in agreement on that. But no one believes they are the idiot.

What if someone made a movie about "*******es" gone wild. Instead of performing their own stunts on themselves, the *******es create situations that will harm those around themselves, the casual unobservant fool and videotape it?

Would that not be something that would be censored, and should be censored?