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Just an example of many: http://www.monstersinmotion.com/tv/061ma98.html
And what has happened with the steep increase in prices for the 12" figures?
I remember last year the 12" Arnold was $25-27. Now I see the 12" Alien and Predator going for over $30-35 and in some places $40+.
I'd guess they can only suggest a retail price. cant imagine they can make someone set a price at something.
Goff has said that McF has NO manufacturer's suggested retail price.
so, no. they don't.
When Playmobil first set-up shop in the US (they're a german based company)
They started yelling at retailers that were dropping prices on their toys.
(Most places that carried playmo back then were mom&pop places)
They all banded together and sued Playmobil USA, (or at least a class-action suit type things with the Federal Trade Commission) well Playmobil got spanked, because in AMERICA (Dammit!) no one can tell you how much to sell something for.
Mr. Stinkhead
Playmobil lova!
And the entire 'no SRP' thing is such a crock a shit. I have old data sheets around somewhere for early McToys product that I can almost swear has SRP's on them. Giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming that if they did once give SRP's, but no longer do, it still doesn't matter - they know how much the retailer is likely to sell them for based on what THEY charge.
Mcfarlane charges the retailer $5 for something, they know it will end up around $10 at the retailer. Maybe they didn't specifically say "you should sell this for around ten bucks", but they shouldn't try to play stupid either.
If you think the retailers raised their prices on their own, I'd say that's unlikely. They usually try to keep similar margins on similar product - if McToys raises their costs to the retailer, you'll see the retailer raise it most of the time.
Michael
MWC
As far as I know, there's NEVER been a SRP on McF Toys. We would publish in EndCap what we thought the "average" retailer would charge (which really is what the DISCONUT places like TRU would mark up). In fact, there is just one price for EVERYONE, TRU, WalMart, and Diamond. Of course, Diamond (and other middlemen) have to mark up each case for their profit, and then each retailer decides if he wants to do a 50% mark-up like TRU, or 100% to help pay for non-selling toys (TRU typicllay just charges McF Toys back on all un-sold merch).
And the price is for a case, but of course some guys will charge more for individual figures they think will sell better. TRU (and other biggies) don't care, but small shops want to get more on the "hot" or "chase" toys to cover the crap that sits on the shelves forever.
And places like Spencers ALWAYS marked things up much more than they needed to. The first time we saw how much they were charging for a KISS exclusive we were floored. But they didn't sell as many, so you'd think they would have learned...
So no, no control. There is some idea based on wholesale costs, but McF's "wholesale" is not always what the shop's cost is either. Remember the middlemen.
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ June 17, 2004 11:06 AM: Message edited by: ThatChetGuy ]</font>
Well, Chet is da man, so I'll believe him. Hey, I see your little info at the bottom says 'from Michigan'. Are you back in the state?
Michael
MWC
Chet never left our winter wonderland.
Regardless of Michael's beliefs, we've never had an MSRP ... at least not in the five years I've been here. First, how do you enforce it?
Our wholesale costs are pretty consistent across the board and have changed very little over the years. The only items that do tend to fluctuate -- for reasons I don't fully understand -- are large-scale stuff and boxed sets.
Fact is, our wholesale prices to retailers for Spawn, sports and all licensed stuff are the same as they were when I started here.
dion
Like I said Dion, if Chet says it's true, I believe him. Not that you're lying - but what people say when they work for a company vs. what they say when the no longer work for the company can at times be two different things, often for very good reasons.
And I thought Chet moved down to one of those boring states for awhile - Indiana? Illinois? Something like that? I may have just gotten that impression in my head without actually confirming it.
Michael
MWC
I did move to Northville, that's pretty boring...
But no, just because I dropped out of radar doesn't mean I dropped off the map. Michigan is still beter than that hell they call Arizona (and it gets hot there too!).
...it's been explained a thousand times and like Mike said, no one believes you. [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
...that's why I gave up answering the question, years ago. [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img]
...I only wonder why it's even still asked, if no one believes you, anyway! [img]eek.gif[/img]
...CHET! Are you coming to the BBQ this year? [img]graemlins/kiss.gif[/img]
LOL, Hamady. I know, man. Like it's some big conspiracy. If we DID have MSRPs, why wouldn't we just say so?
I've been as honest and forthright about every single issue I've ever responded to and I'm sometimes still made to feel like a snakeoil salesman. (shrugs)
dion
I don't see what the big deal is...
what does it matter if you do or don't have a MSRP? [img]confused.gif[/img]
i have full confidence that if dion couldnt answer a question honestly, he wouldnt answer at all.
on the other hand, hamady is a rat-fucking liar. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img]
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DION,
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I've been as honest and forthright about every single issue I've ever responded to and I'm sometimes still made to feel like a snakeoil salesman. (shrugs)
dion
...amen brother, amen! [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img]
...speaking of snake oil, I could use a couple of bottles. [img]wink.gif[/img]
BONE,
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i have full confidence that if dion couldnt answer a question honestly, he wouldnt answer at all.
on the other hand, hamady is a rat-fucking liar.
...can't wait to see you at the BBQ. [img]smile.gif[/img]
...'cause I'm gonna rip out one of your eyeballs and skull fuck you. [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]
...and to show you just how nice of a guy I really am, I'm gonna leave your other eye in, so you can watch my balls slappin' your chin! [img]wink.gif[/img]
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You know, Dion, if you would just grow a nice moustache, get some glasses, and perm your hair, more people would believe you. Look at all the trust Gene Shallit and Ned Flanders get! [img]wink.gif[/img]
And Steve, I'll be in Colorado for the month of July, so I can't make the BBQ. [img]frown.gif[/img] But I have a box of goodies for you (prizes and stuff to hand out to attendees), to trade for MY box of goodies that you've been saving for years...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">damn, that's funny!!Quote:
...and to show you just how nice of a guy I really am, I'm gonna leave your other eye in, so you can watch my balls slappin' your chin!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Quote:
Originally posted by StV:
BONE,
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> i have full confidence that if dion couldnt answer a question honestly, he wouldnt answer at all.
on the other hand, hamady is a rat-fucking liar.
...can't wait to see you at the BBQ. [img]smile.gif[/img]
...'cause I'm gonna rip out one of your eyeballs and skull fuck you. [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]
...and to show you just how nice of a guy I really am, I'm gonna leave your other eye in, so you can watch my balls slappin' your chin! [img]wink.gif[/img]
[img]biggrin.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ive had an eyelash in my eye before...and it didnt hurt too bad. so im prepared for your dick.
CHET,
...excuses, excuses, excuses! [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img]
...you'll have to come here for your box, it's too freakin' big and heavy to be shipped! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
...boy, between your stuff, my stuff and all the stuff Todd is signing, everybody should get something! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ June 17, 2004 03:30 PM: Message edited by: StV ]</font>
BD,
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ive had an eyelash in my eye before...and it didnt hurt too bad. so im prepared for your dick.
...don't worry, this'll be a new experience for you then. [img]smile.gif[/img]
...and I'll be gentle. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Nah, even if he grows the 'stache, dons the glasses and perms the hair, nobody will believe him. It goes with the territory.
And he'd get laid a lot less.
Northville? That's not THAT bad. Sure, it's not the thriving mecha of cosmopolitan fun that Ann Arbor is, but it's not Canton either. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Michael
MWC
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And he'd get laid a lot less.
...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (wipes tears from eyes!)
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<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ June 17, 2004 04:02 PM: Message edited by: StV ]</font>
Can you all keep it down in here? It's hard to sleep with all this skull fucking and ball slapping going on!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[img]eek.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by StV:
...boy, between your stuff, my stuff and all the stuff Todd is signing, everybody should get something! [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
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<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ June 17, 2004 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Snape ]</font>
AM,
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Can you all keep it down in here? It's hard to sleep with all this skull fucking and ball slapping going on!
...sorry, I'll velvet line his face. [img]wink.gif[/img]
With Steve's balls, it would sound like one of those hollow wooden tubes that you turn over to hear the "rain".
And women LOVE the 'stache. It's the rest of the package they don't like... I mean... oh, well, someone has to look like a sixties porn star. Hamady looks like one too, but that's because his face looks like Ron Jeremy's ass.
CHET,
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With Steve's balls, it would sound like one of those hollow wooden tubes that you turn over to hear the "rain".
...you would know, for as many times as you've experienced it. [img]wink.gif[/img]
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Hamady looks like one too, but that's because his face looks like Ron Jeremy's ass.
...I'll have to take your word on that one, I've never kissed his ass! [img]confused.gif[/img]
[img]wink.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Quote:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> With Steve's balls, it would sound like one of those hollow wooden tubes that you turn over to hear the "rain".
...you would know, for as many times as you've experienced it. [img]wink.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, I thought that was just a mosquito flying around the hotel room. I kept having dreams about tiny little pin pricks...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Quote:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hamady looks like one too, but that's because his face looks like Ron Jeremy's ass.
...I'll have to take your word on that one, I've never kissed his ass! [img]confused.gif[/img]
[img]wink.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You've kissed so many that you've forgtten them all by now? Shame! [img]wink.gif[/img]
CHET,
...come on, surely you can come up with something better than that? [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Isn't that what your wife says to you when you try and be romantic? [img]wink.gif[/img]Quote:
...come on, surely you can come up with something better than that? [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
...hey, at least I convinced a woman once! [img]smile.gif[/img]
...that's once more than you, partner! [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But you have TWO daughters... HmmmmmmmmmmmQuote:
Originally posted by StV:
...hey, at least I convinced a woman once!
[img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">damn, that's funny!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LMFAO!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Peeker:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...and to show you just how nice of a guy I really am, I'm gonna leave your other eye in, so you can watch my balls slappin' your chin!
CHET,
...you only have to convince them once, that's to marry you.
...the rest of the time they give in, just to shut you up. [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ June 17, 2004 11:15 PM: Message edited by: StV ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, the women I'm with generally LIKE me using my mouth. [img]tongue.gif[/img]Quote:
CHET,
...you only have to convince them once, that's to marry you.
...the rest of the time they give in, just to shut you up. [img]wink.gif[/img]
...yeah, but hangin' out with postal worker and lickin' stamps, ain't exactly my idea of a date! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Yeah, but those ladies know how to deliver! http://www.hostboard.com/forums/
Oddly enough, right now I am seeing a former Playboy bunny. She's a real estate agent now, and I met her by repairing her computer.