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I agree Mike, the J&S is an awesome piece of technology...it's truly amazing.
Why don't you spring for a V-AFC instead of a SAFC? I think the price diference is only 50 bucks or so...
Tom
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'92 Civic Si H/B (D16Z6) with JRSC tryin' to get rid of knock, J&S Safeguard, CAI/H/E...
Because the V-AFC doesn't work on the Type R.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lundgren:
Because the V-AFC doesn't work on the Type R.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Huh? Why???
Tom
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'92 Civic Si H/B (D16Z6) with JRSC tryin' to get rid of knock, J&S Safeguard, CAI/H/E...
Wow, this unit is awsome!!!!!! I tested the settings, and what a difference. Also one cool thing about my install... I hooked it up to the stock knock sensor! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
I hope to get the new S-AFC in soon, so new dyno tests are on its way! 215+ here I come!
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!
Mike,
I've been searchin' for a good buy on the J&S
forever. Where'd you get yours and how much did'ya pay? BTW, I've been wondering if I should buy the unit w/ the A/F display or buy a seperate gauge? Thanks.
Adrian
I got the J&S from the group buy. It ended back in May. Check and see how much Endyn is charging for it. (www.theoldone.com) Also I would get the seperate gauge. The price difference is crazy for the dual meter. But if you want a clean, and simple look, get the duel gauge. Both however are way to inaccurate to test with. Just use a Wide Band O2 at your local dyno place!
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!
Mike,
I know which group buy you're talkin' about. If I recall, wasn't it almost $500 w/ the dual meter, almost retail? Well, it was my fault. I was indecisive because I wasn't sure who I was going to turn to for a reliable install.
Anyways, you like it, huh? Little more power? Less tip-in bog? Noticeable difference? Glad to know that you and your car's smilin'. Now go outside and play!
Adrian.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lundgren:
Because the V-AFC doesn't work on the Type R.
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I have it installed in my R, and it works fine.
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Well I'v had the VAFC since March. I believe I got one of the first ever sold. I have never been able to get it to work right. No matter what I do, or how I wire it, I will still get check engine lights, and rev limit cutoffs. For other type R's it has worked great so far. Apexi thinks I must have gotten a flawed unit. I also never bothered getting using the VTEC feature because it showed little if any gain on the dyno. So Apexi, and everyone else believes that the SAFC will work fine on my car.
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!
lundgren?
What have you heard?
Tom
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'92 Civic Si H/B (D16Z6) with JRSC tryin' to get rid of knock, J&S Safeguard, CAI/H/E...
What if anything is the advantage of using the stock knock sensor. Except of course you don't need to add a new one. Does the ECU let you cut the stock knock sensor, or do you just tap into it?
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nah u gotta tap into it. if u cut it out u wil get a CEL. I know from experience. The Stock KS is much more sensitive.
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94 Red GSR
85,000 miles
DRAG3 turbo kit at 6 psi, TIAL wastegate, Apex N1 3 inch exhaust, J&S safeguard, Clutch Specialties 6puk clutch, EBC brakes, dropped on 17 inch Kosei Racing Senekas.--New paint comin soon-- .
Does anybody know which wire on a 97 GS-R at the ECU is the stock knock sensor? Maybe I'll try it.
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I still don't get it...if you want more sensitivity just turn up the knob. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/confused.gif
ringer, the sensitivity allows how much voltage the J&S senses from the knock sensor.
I'm using the stock KS and I agree that it's very sensitive compared to the J&S KS.
by being more sensitive i didnt mean to say that it was any better. u could just turn up the nob i think and get the same reaction. im not really sure. im just saying that if u do have it connected to the stock KS, u will need to turn the j&s down or it will retard timing all the time. hth
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94 Red GSR
85,000 miles
DRAG3 turbo kit at 6 psi, TIAL wastegate, Apex N1 3 inch exhaust, J&S safeguard, Clutch Specialties 6puk clutch, EBC brakes, dropped on 17 inch Kosei Racing Senekas.--New paint comin soon-- .
The reason I TAPPED off of the stock sensor, was to save time. I figured why waist the extra time, and risk error. It took like 15min to hook up the unit! Thats why http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!
yea, I've had the j&s for a while and it works great. So there is no advantage for someone in my situtation to switch to the stock ks...correct?
Yeah I wouldn't bother. Its not worth the trouble, and time. I would only do it, if your going to install it for the first time.
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!
The install is easy! Especally since I taped in off of the stock Knock Sensor. Yeah I believe the group buy for the dual monitior was pritty expensive. I got the single monitor, and I love it! Once thing I do notice is the response when first punching it in mid gear. I haven't yet had time to dyno tune it, so I dont know the exact gain I got. One thing is for sure. With the safeguard you get (no pun intended) in driving its well worth it! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Mike Marsey
'98 ITR #0717
Supercharged!