B18C1 Going to ENDYN Part V.... Momma I'm coming H

It's been a while since the last update.....

But as promised, my goal is to prove that ENDYN and their abilities are exceptional. And I am glad to report there has been NO dissapointments. PERIOD.

The motor has been completed. Fully assembled. And has now spent approximatley 10 hours run time on an engine dyno, beginning its break in.

Dyno?

Did I say dyno?

Although the motor has not been broken in fully..... she has pulled a consistent, very healthy 345hp @7000 rpm. What she'll do above 7k we dont know..... yet. We are giving her a little more time to mature before we take it any further. This obviously is crank HP, with no NOS.

I am pleased.... no..... ecstatic with the results. Larry is truly a 1st class guy, with a 1st class orginization.

Here are the most recent pictures, before the motor assembly. I will update you when the motor arrives.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...638&p=34132402

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...638&p=34237929



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95 GSR (B18C1)
ENDYN modified JRSC @ 14lbs, 50 shot NOS, ENDYN pistons, ENDYN rods, ENDYN modified crank, ENDYN ported and polished head, ENDYN valves, valve springs and retainers, Kamikazee Header, Nakayama Intake, Brospeed Exhuast, Unorthodox Cam Gears, RC 310cc injectors, Bosch (ENDYN modified) fuel pump, STR rail, Hyper R, Moroso catch can, B&M oil cooler, J&S SafeGuard, MSD6BTM, Blaster coil, MSD Cap, ES mounts, ES tranny bushings, ACT 6 puck, Baer 13" brakes (front), Slotted/Xdrilled rear, Stainless lines, M/T for the track, blah, blah, blah......

Like...woah......

"Larry..Larry..he's our man...if he cant build it no one can.."

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Supercharged GSR Sedan
JRSC 6 psi,AEM CAI, AEM Pulley, AEM Cam gears, RSR header, Greddy PE, Field SFC-VTEC, Neuspeed Race, KYB AGX, Racing Hart C2 (3 piece).

http://www.geocities.com/jamesyun007/canshots.jpg

Damn...! Very, very nice.

Keep us up to date!!!!

Zach

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94 Civic Coupe/LS Hybrid
JRSC@6psi
AEM CAI
DC 4-2-1 Ceramic Header
Test Pipe
GReddy PE exhaust
Magnacore 8.5mm Wires
MSD 6A
Skunkworks Coilovers
ACT 6 Puck
Turbo Convert

Jealous!!! Oh sooo jealous.... http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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99' GSR 13.6 @ 103.4mph
-JRSC w/ Walbro Fuel Pump, AEM Intake, Tanabe Racing Medallion Exhaust, Mugen Header, Ground Control Coilovers/ Koni Adjustable Shocks, Black 17x7.5 Volk Racing SE37's, and Wings West Body Kit
Since then: Quaife LSD, ACT Clutch, ZEX Ultra Lightweight Flywheel, AEM Cam gears, and JR BTC

Hmmm... how come come no blockguard w/ the scallops in it??

Did Larry reinforce it another way?

if you look carefully you can see some reinforcement down there.

pest,

Take a look down in the water jackets. You can see threaded studs perpendicular to either side of each cylinder.

11psiGSR,

Those photos look familiar. When were they taken?

OH MOMMA http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif I'll be in touch....

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98 GS-scR w/ 8psi JRSC, Walbro HO fuel pump, AEM cai, DC 4-2-1 one peice header, Thermal Exhaust, Skunk Works cam gears, J&S safeguard, RC 310's, Cartech FMU, Vortech regulator, H&R sports and KYB AGX's, and of course to slow down, KVR X-drill F&R rotors and Carbon Kevlar pads and V1 to signal the slowing down and soon to go on the "Juice" and a CF diet.
Best et ==>13.6 @ 103mph w/ 2.3 60ft

Ooooh BABY!!!.. I just wet my pants http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif What compression ratio are those pistons? What are you going to use for engine management? Are you using aftermarket cams? Roughly how much have you spent if you don't mind me asking. Geez, please keep us informed. What car is this going into? Will it be a daily driver or just occasionally driven on the streets http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif

Very nice... what kind of torque numbers did it pump out ???
Also, what are you running for engine management ???


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'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph

[This message has been edited by JRCivic (edited November 29, 2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gsrev:
What compression ratio are those pistons? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
does static compression ratio really matter all that much? or is it the cam timing and the valve opening/closing event relative to piston position the thing that really matters?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vactor:

Quote:

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Originally posted by gsrev:
What compression ratio are those pistons? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
does static compression ratio really matter all that much? or is it the cam timing and the valve opening/closing event relative to piston position the thing that really matters?

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someone's getting it...



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1998' 4dr GSR, 8psi JRSC w/hand ported plenum, Walbro HP fuel pump, valves set to .005i/.006e, MSD BTM, B&M CommandFlo regulator(working it out), stock intake w/resinator cut off at fenderwell for "cool air", Greddy sp exhaust, Tokico Illumina 5-ways, Neuspeed springs(sux!), Skunkworks 22mm rear swaybar, ES motor mounts and front swaybar bushings, Yokohama AVS 205/50/15's, Metal Master brake pads(KVR Carbon Fibre pads sitting on work bench) ,B&M fuel pressure gauge, Autometer sport comp A/F gauge in dimmer location...

YLW 00' ITR #00-1011 with AEM CAI and 143db triple air horns

Honest officer, I had no idea how fast I was going...the speedometer only gos to 150...

Get paid to surf the Web!!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=TUD-039

RJaffey: Those photo's were taken on November 20th....

gsrev: The compression ratio is 9.5:1... As far as Engine management, everything the car has is listed in my sig. No aftermarket cams. The car is a 95 GSR which can and will be daily driven, although it is a 2nd vehicle. Funny thing about Larry, he believes that reliability should never be sacrificed over performance....

JRCivic: Not sure about torque numbers.... As far as engine management, everything the car has is in my sig.

Endyn is for real.

Allan

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95 GSR (B18C1)
ENDYN modified JRSC @ 14lbs, 50 shot NOS, ENDYN pistons, ENDYN rods, ENDYN modified crank, ENDYN ported and polished head, ENDYN valves, valve springs and retainers, Kamikazee Header, Nakayama Intake, Brospeed Exhuast, Unorthodox Cam Gears, RC 310cc injectors, Bosch (ENDYN modified) fuel pump, STR rail, Hyper R, Moroso catch can, B&M oil cooler, J&S SafeGuard, MSD6BTM, Blaster coil, MSD Cap, ES mounts, ES tranny bushings, ACT 6 puck, Baer 13" brakes (front), Slotted/Xdrilled rear, Stainless lines, M/T for the track, blah, blah, blah......

Bleh.... 345hp is small potatoes in the turbo world.

Haha... j/k. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif This is really very exciting.

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Mark - Darth Boost - Turbo Mafia
98 Pearl Black GS-R, DRAG Gen. 3 Turbo
13.3 at 106MPH (22x8x15 slicks on a 100 degree day)

not if torque is right up there...

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1998' 4dr GSR, 8psi JRSC w/hand ported plenum, Walbro HP fuel pump, valves set to .005i/.006e, MSD BTM, B&M CommandFlo regulator(working it out), stock intake w/resinator cut off at fenderwell for "cool air", Greddy sp exhaust, Tokico Illumina 5-ways, Neuspeed springs(sux!), Skunkworks 22mm rear swaybar, ES motor mounts and front swaybar bushings, Yokohama AVS 205/50/15's, Metal Master brake pads(KVR Carbon Fibre pads sitting on work bench) ,B&M fuel pressure gauge, Autometer sport comp A/F gauge in dimmer location...

YLW 00' ITR #00-1011 with AEM CAI and 143db triple air horns

Honest officer, I had no idea how fast I was going...the speedometer only gos to 150...

Get paid to surf the Web!!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=TUD-039

Hey 11psi, oops, I mean 15+psi http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Did you dyno it at Reliable?, I bet ya Ed was impressed!!!

Thats 258 foot pounds at 7K. It's probably falling off at that point.
I want to see the power at 8K and higher.

Ed told me just days ago that he has NEVER seen a supercharged motor dyno over 235-240 hp... so it must have been dynoed somewhere else.


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'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 11psiGSR:
And has now spent approximatley 10 hours run time on an engine dyno, beginning its break in.
Dyno?
Did I say dyno?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why yes you did http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif

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98 GS-scR w/ 8psi JRSC, Walbro HO fuel pump, AEM cai, DC 4-2-1 one peice header, Thermal Exhaust, Skunk Works cam gears, J&S safeguard, RC 310's, Cartech FMU, Vortech regulator, H&R sports and KYB AGX's, and of course to slow down, KVR X-drill F&R rotors and Carbon Kevlar pads and V1 to signal the slowing down and soon to go on the "Juice" and a CF diet.
Best et ==>13.6 @ 103mph w/ 2.3 60ft

[This message has been edited by Mr Rogers (edited November 30, 2000).]

BlownSol and JRcivic....

The dyno was not a chassis dyno.... it was an engine dyno. And no, it was not Ed. Although Ed has dynoed my car up until recently. Previously the highest Ed ever saw off my car was 229hp and 185 Ftlbs.

We expect that at 7600rpm(ish) it should top out between 365-370hp. Assuming the typical 12% driveline loss, that should put me at 321hp @ the wheels. (Oh yeah, and don't forget the 70 shot of NOS) http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

all i can say is:

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

So to sum up what you're doing here, 14psiGSR, is building out a Larry Widmer special, which is a fully built motor with a worked JRSC with a small pulley?

In a nut shell..... It's Larry's #1 combo, super sized with a coke. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

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95 GSR (B18C1)
ENDYN modified JRSC @ 14lbs, 50 shot NOS, ENDYN pistons, ENDYN rods, ENDYN modified crank, ENDYN ported and polished head, ENDYN valves, valve springs and retainers, Kamikazee Header, Nakayama Intake, Brospeed Exhuast, Unorthodox Cam Gears, RC 310cc injectors, Bosch (ENDYN modified) fuel pump, STR rail, Hyper R, Moroso catch can, B&M oil cooler, J&S SafeGuard, MSD6BTM, Blaster coil, MSD Cap, ES mounts, ES tranny bushings, ACT 6 puck, Baer 13" brakes (front), Slotted/Xdrilled rear, Stainless lines, M/T for the track, blah, blah, blah......

Did you keep the stock rod ratio??

Or did Larry work up a more comfortable rod ratio?

That is some MAD power!!! But, I wonder HOW? you're gonna put the power down to the ground without breaking something???

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It take a Nation of Millions to hold Us Back!!!

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C-SpeedRacing

[This message has been edited by MouhadIb (edited November 30, 2000).]

MouhadIb:

Getting the power down will be a problem... I hope. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

SiRyder:

The car has been inoperable since May. That had nothing to do with Larry. Larry has only had the motor since the weekend of September 22nd, when I loaded the motor up and drove it to him.

As far as cost, I will tell you that aside from the additional cost of the JRSC rebuild, the actual motor rebuild was less than $700 dollars more than everbody else wanted to charge me. Mind you, $700 is no small change, but for what Larry and ENDYN are giving me I would have paid alot more. Not to mention the fact that places like Bensons, JG and one of my local shops couldnt explain what they were doing that was better than the next guy.

As for the cars equipment, everything is listed in the signiture below. I have no CAI, yet. I will have Larry's "bathtub" intake when he gets one in for my application.

You can find out more about ENDYN at http://www.theoldone.com

Allan

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95 GSR (B18C1)
ENDYN modified JRSC @ 14lbs, 50 shot NOS, ENDYN pistons, ENDYN rods, ENDYN modified crank, ENDYN ported and polished head, ENDYN valves, valve springs and retainers, Kamikazee Header, Nakayama Intake, Brospeed Exhuast, Unorthodox Cam Gears, RC 310cc injectors, Bosch (ENDYN modified) fuel pump, STR rail, Hyper R, Moroso catch can, B&M oil cooler, J&S SafeGuard, MSD6BTM, Blaster coil, MSD Cap, ES mounts, ES tranny bushings, ACT 6 puck, Baer 13" brakes (front), Slotted/Xdrilled rear, Stainless lines, M/T for the track, blah, blah, blah......

[This message has been edited by 11psiGSR (edited December 01, 2000).]

Damn! that is incredible! i was recently pondering whether to go turbo or super, but after reading this, i'm definitely going with super! my question is how long was the down time on your car? how long was it non-operational? i ask because i only have one car. what other accessories do you have to help the supercharger? liquid intercooler, water injection, CAI or short ram? also (this has got to be the big question), HOW MUCH DID IT ALL COST?! thanx for your time.

so it cost $700 for the rebuild (port/polish, pistons, rods, modified crank, valves, valve springs and retainers)? if so then i would consider that nothing, because i paid around $630 for my tanabe racing medallion exhaust! also, did any work have to be done on the supercharger? and where is ENDYN located? thanx!

check again... he said it cost $700 more than the other prices... probably worth twice that too...

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1998' 4dr GSR, 8psi JRSC w/hand ported plenum, Walbro HP fuel pump, valves set to .005i/.006e, MSD BTM, B&M CommandFlo regulator(working it out), stock intake w/resinator cut off at fenderwell for "cool air", Greddy sp exhaust, Tokico Illumina 5-ways, Neuspeed springs(sux!), Skunkworks 22mm rear swaybar, ES motor mounts and front swaybar bushings, Yokohama AVS 205/50/15's, Metal Master brake pads(KVR Carbon Fibre pads sitting on work bench) ,B&M fuel pressure gauge, Autometer sport comp A/F gauge in dimmer location...

YLW 00' ITR #00-1011 with AEM CAI and 143db triple air horns

Honest officer, I had no idea how fast I was going...the speedometer only gos to 150...

Get paid to surf the Web!!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=TUD-039

oh...okay. i bet it is a way better job. i mean 345 turbocharged hp is nothing really, but supercharged?, that must take some skills! by the way, i've read and heard that a short ram intake is better for supercharged applications, because the air has less piping to flow through even though it may be slightly warmer than the CAI's because the CAI air has longer piping to go through. can anyone substantiate this claim, because i've noticed in most your signatures that a lot of you have CAI's.

Dependable 300+ WHP with Turbo isn't "nothing" either. The build up for a good turbo car that has as little lag as this guy will have isn't an easy thing. I'd like to see a turbo have the power as low in the RPM band as he will.

That's another odd thing I wanted to bring up. My car makes like nearly 200 TQ at the wheels at like 1.8-2k rpms (the 1.8T). The smaller revving cars can get away with smaller turbos because they don't wing as high. I guess this is why we see big arse turbos on the GSRs and have so much more lag. I can't wait to see this dyno chart.

-Silvino

What octane gas and what king of timing was used for that dyno run?

Greg

Greg: I did not ask what octane fuel that was acheived with. Thats a good question. I'll be calling him sometime today, I'll ask and let you know.

Hopefully this time next week the car will be running (fingers crossed).

Allan

ummm.... rod ratio? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Where's Larry located?

man, did you spend over 10 grand or something?

pureGSR: I dont want to share the exact price, but it was considerably lower than $10k. For the ENTIRE package.

Larry is located in the lovely state of Texas, where everything is bigger. Including HP. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif

pest: Not sure of rod ratio.... I am not near as knowledgable about internals as I should be. Call it ignorance on my part. I can tell you the CR has been lowered to 9.5:1.

Allan

Please Help me get in touch with ENdyn
I tried there web site
Nothing
PLease list a phone # and adrs.
I've got a typeR
E-mail: [email protected]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JiMmY8vAlVe:
Please Help me get in touch with ENdyn
I tried there web site
Nothing
PLease list a phone # and adrs.
I've got a typeR


Boy do you sound like a twit.
In case you are serious, go to theoldone.com
There's contact info there.

try the personal email on the BBS... T.O.O.

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1998' 4dr GSR, 8psi JRSC w/hand ported plenum, Walbro HP fuel pump, valves set to .005i/.006e, MSD BTM, B&M CommandFlo regulator(working it out), stock intake w/resinator cut off at fenderwell for "cool air", Greddy sp exhaust, Tokico Illumina 5-ways, Neuspeed springs(sux!), Skunkworks 22mm rear swaybar, ES motor mounts and front swaybar bushings, Yokohama AVS 205/50/15's, Metal Master brake pads(KVR Carbon Fibre pads sitting on work bench) ,B&M fuel pressure gauge, Autometer sport comp A/F gauge in dimmer location...

YLW 00' ITR #00-1011 with AEM CAI and 143db triple air horns

Honest officer, I had no idea how fast I was going...the speedometer only gos to 150...

Get paid to surf the Web!!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=TUD-039