As far as toys go, does Goff really have any pull at McF...?

*This isn't a Jon Goff bashing thread*

Sometimes on the spawn board, I see people asking Jon for certain toys to be made...yet whenever I see a post like that, I always wonder if Jon actually has any real input into what goes on with the toys, because he is on the opposite coast and I assume in a different deptartment.

Back when Steve was mod, you could ask him for / about a toy and you KNEW that he was right there in the toy studio and had a lot of input into things. But for some reason it always sounds kind of weird to me when someone asks Jon about a toy getting made. I know he's right there with Todd, but does that really matter? I've always gotten the impression that the toy licensing stuff is handled in NJ and Todd more or less just watches over things and gives approval.

What do you all think...? [img]graemlins/pizza.gif[/img]

sounds like a question for Steve to answer

well yeah, I know it's more of a techincal question that Steve could answer, but I guess I was wondering what everyone's impression of Jon was...personally, I don't really get the feeling that he's "at one with the toys" [img]wink.gif[/img]

he definately seems more like "its a job" than an toy fan that gets to work there.

yeah...I agree with that. He seems like a decent person, but I wonder if he really cares about the requests people make...and if so, can he / does he do anything about it...? hmmmmmmm..... [img]eek.gif[/img]

enquirering minds want to know

I think he's more of a Movie and Gaming buff than Toy buff

I can't speak much on Jon, since I haven't really talked to him personally or anything, but I do feel he's done a mediochre job at being a forum mod since he started. I took a board hiatus for the good part of last year, and when I jumped back on, he was mod (like in November). Last I was there before that, Drew Hutchinson and another guy were doing it. It seemed the board was "cleaner" as far as OT posts went then, and he seemed to enjoy being a mod as well as into toys. It started to go to hell to then (its like the phases of the moon or something), and I was busy in my personal life, so I stopped going there, just checking the site for updates, etc.

I personally don't care to ever go back to the forums over there again. The last 5 times I've scanned them in the last week since I migrated here, its been a bunch of flame wars, OT idiocy, and almost NO spawn or McF related posts. It was just pathetic. And the "Objectional Content Policy"... quite laughable when not enforced at ALL.

Thats my two pennies....

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 19, 2004 05:21 PM: Message edited by: pairadocs ]</font>

He does seem to pretty much let everything go over there. just seems so employee-like instead of a friend kind of deal. seems nice enough, but not as into it as the others were

E-mail me. I wrote to him about the way the other board is. I'll share some of what he said, but won't post his reply here.

ygm

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E-mail me. I wrote to him about the way the other board is. I'll share some of what he said, but won't post his reply here.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This I gotta hear... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Steve: My appologies...

Jon: No offense meant if you happened to read my very unserious and totally not maliciously intended words. I assumed the amount of smiley's and winks were obvious enough to indicate jovial ribbing. My bad.

<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ January 20, 2004 09:18 AM: Message edited by: Spore ]</font></font>

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 20, 2004 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Spore ]</font>

hmmm...I am interested to hear what Jon had to say....ygm from me too [img]smile.gif[/img]

OK, if you guys are that upset about the "state of the board," I suggest you do something about it! Don't let a bunch of 12 year olds and a few ill mannered assholes, run you off! It's your home, as much as it is theirs. Only difference? You follow the rules, they don't!

My suggestion to you, e-mail, e-mail, e-mail! Make your voice heard! Let them know how you feel! Don't walk away and call it quits! You do, they win! Tell everyone to e-mail the mods, all of them and rock their worlds! I have a feeling, they're just waiting to hear from you!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying go back and forget this place, because I'm not. John knows that better than anyone here. To me, this board is a very special place. A place where the ol' folk can come together and bullshit, make plans...whatever and do it amongst ourselves.

I've known most of you for quite a long time now. I've invited you into my home! That's not something I do lightly, either! So, I expect you to heed my words. Don't stand for the bullshit, go take back what is rightfully yours. Sound off like you got a pair! I'll be there, to back you in the trenches. [img]wink.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 20, 2004 10:03 AM: Message edited by: StV ]</font>

well, I don't know if everyone has given up on the other board persay...some of us still post there. It's just grown so much in the last few years that it's hard to sift through everything. That's what's great about this board - a small group that KNOWS each other.

But Steve - what about my original question? Does Jon Goff actually have any real inupt you know of with the toy department? I meant this more as a general question, not a put down to Jon. I just got the impression that he wasn't really involved with the toys other than moderating the board....

EDIT: if you can't comment or don't care to, I understand. [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 20, 2004 02:38 AM: Message edited by: munkkeyboy ]</font>

I'll chime in since Hamady's playing drill sgt. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

All licensing is done in Tempe, where Jon works. Jon is very active in voicing the wants and requests of the board population. I hear him do it in every single planning meeting that they have. Ultimately, all the decisions are made with Todd and licensing. Jon's role is basically as a conduit of information to Todd's ear and he performs that role.

Does he have any "pull" in what gets made? Probably no more than the rest of us, but that's not really what he's here for.

As for moderating the boards, I don't see where it's any different than when Brad was here. If it were up to ME, I'd take it back to the way it used to be when it was fun and the bullshit was kept to a minimum. Not my call, unfortunately. HTH.
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They are not 'running' me off! I just ignore the real stupid ass threads.
As for Jon,he has answered e-mails from me and was quite informative in answering my Questions.
His updates are pretty good considering he can't let alot out of the bag(we'll let other websites do that [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) and it seems he puts alot of work in most of them.
As for the other people on the Spawn Board,what are ya gonna do,it's open to anyone,they can say what they want(it seems),I'm quite sure you can't ban someone for postin like a moron(cause I woulda been banned a long time ago)
I'll just ignore the threads I have no interest in(which is MOST lately)
But I'm not QUITING the other boards cause it's overtaken by kids,they don't know any better yet,they'll grow up after awhile,but i'm not waiting for that,I'm 42,time runnin out for me [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

You know what? Steve's right. Although this board is really fuckin' great, THAT board is where we all met. I'm not giving up on THAT board. Maybe he knows something we don't, so if he says to e-mail them and let them know how we feel, I'M E-MAILING THEM! Think about it, if EVERYONE of us let them know how we feel AND WHY WE DON'T BOTHER COMING AROUND ANYMORE, they will listen.
I don't want it to become a totally rigid and un-fun board, but THAT board needs an enema!

ok. it's worth a shot. I'm sure Jon doesn't know me, but I guess that's beside the point. I'll be very blunt in my feelings.

** NEWSFLASH!!** Live from Canada -- a new breakthrough scientific discovery!

there seems to be a correlation between good moderating and balding! [img]wink.gif[/img]

full story at 11

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Originally posted by *lady vader*:
** NEWSFLASH!!** Live from Canada -- a new breakthrough scientific discovery!

there seems to be a correlation between good moderating and balding! [img]wink.gif[/img]

full story at 11

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I've always consider myself to be a good moderate. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Regarding the other board...it has just gotten too big! As soon as you straighten out the existing members with a can of whoopass, newbies come in a start the cycle all over again. For now I'm just tired of putting forth any effort over there.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 20, 2004 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Andyman ]</font>

I just posted there for the first time in a couple of weeks. Seems N E C A won best sculpt from Toyfare. But since Toyfare doesn't count anything that McF does now........ I couldn't resist saying how bogus that award was.

cool...thanks for the response Dion [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

i'm "at one with the toys" [img]eek.gif[/img]