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that Miller Welding bike rocked on so many levels... the paint, the fenders, the bumper-thing, the tow-behind welder. i don't care what Sr says, Paulie's stuff still kicks ass.
i'm hoping they show footage from the Michigan bike show soon. with a little luck, you might catch a glimpse of me chatting with Jr.
and on a slightly related note, i found my OCC beanie that i lost about a month ago. woohoo!
Yeah, those bikes kick ass they build. Wish I could afford one. heh.
Yeah, that was a cool looking bike. I think Sr. needs to chill the fuck out on all the "cleaning" crap though.
Just let them build bikes and STFU already.
I was pissed when he got all over Vinnie about cleaning the place. he's too compulsive on that shit. thats more important than the customers bike and thats fucked up. Too old fashioned thinking. he's like a lot of the idiot bosses I work for.
You've also gotta realize Sr. is a neat freak.. He's onna those people that can't stand a mess.. Trust me, I live with onna those kinds, his attitude isn't because he wants to be a dick, it's just part of his obsession showing through.
what are ya trying to say demon huh huh?? [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]
Yeah hey, I'm one of them peoples too!
On the other hand my wife is like Jessica Simpson. Leaves shit EVERYWHERE and it drives me nuts!!
yep that's what demon does and it drives me CRAZY!!! he leaves more out than my kids [img]wink.gif[/img]
I'm trying to say sometimes you can be obsessive compulsive! [img]cool.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
and i am trying to say that sometimes you are a SLOB!! [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img]
I'm sad to say that my daughter has mom's sense of slobbery.
Example: Me, the wife and daughter all walk in the front door of the house yesterday. My daughter and wife literally shed their jackets onto the foyer floor, kick their boots off and wander off. I open the closet, hang my jacket, put my boots away, close the closet and join them in the kitchen. About an hour later my wife comes storming in and says "Why didn't you hang our coats up when you hung yours up?" [img]eek.gif[/img]
hahaha my daughter is terrible too! she is a big slob... my son on the other hand is not so bad but is getting worse... [img]confused.gif[/img]
WTF is American Chopper?!?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">oh my fucking god. I cant believe you dont know. Its a show on discovery channel where they build custom choppers. the dads a hard ass and always chewing on the sons ass. you should look at there website and see some of the motorcycles they build. un-fucking-believable bikesQuote:
Originally posted by Peter Peeker:
WTF is American Chopper?!?
ah!
I have seen that, just never caught the name.
Paul sr. alone makes that show fun too. "Paulie! You just standing around here and nothing's getting done! Time for my massage, I'm off."
"They screwed it up, we can't put just one Blues Brother on there! Dammit where's Mikey. I'm gonna go get donuts"
"Alright tomorrow we gotta big day ahead of us, and we're short on time. Let's go bowling!"
I saw the promos for the show but I missed it. So did Vinnie want to kick the shit out of Paul Sr? He said he wanted to kick someone's ass in the promo.
I love it when Paulie Jr. rolls up in his silver Prowler......for some reason... [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">senior chewed Vinnie's ass for the shop being a mess. Vinnie was bummed that none of it was his mess.Quote:
Originally posted by Andyman:
I saw the promos for the show but I missed it. So did Vinnie want to kick the shit out of Paul Sr? He said he wanted to kick someone's ass in the promo.
vinnie actually wanted to kick paul jr's ass since he left a bad piece from the mock up in the frame. he had to redo about 2 hours of work while paulie was playing hollywood.
I would hope that vinnie would think twice about making threats to the old man. Paul may be old, but he still looks like he would pop vinnies head off in a second.
I fuggin love the show man!!!!
I saw the old man last month at a show, he's HUGE.
Jr's pretty good-sized himself, and mikey's at least 6'3".
cool. paul sr was bench pressing 410 the other night on one of the shows. so he may be 50, but he still is pretty damn stout. i can hardley get 300lbs and i'm in my prime!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally posted by Cemetery Man:
"Alright tomorrow we gotta big day ahead of us, and we're short on time. Let's go bowling!"
I noticed that, too.
Sr. rides everybody's ass about needing to get a bike built in less than a week, but seems to be the first one to say, "Okay, let's get out of here. We've got a busy day tomorrow."
Every episode I've seen recently has a sequence where Sr. and the crew leave the shop before it has gotten dark.
Now, if you're on a deadline, why not just pull a few long days instead of doing 9-5 all week? They could stay in that fabrication shop until dawn if they wanted to.
It sucks, and I can understand why they DON'T, but if you've got two or three days to get a chopper built before going to prime & paint, don't piss away your time by going out bowling or getting lunch.
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ February 17, 2004 04:34 PM: Message edited by: White Line Nightmare ]</font>
yeah, Sr's wacky like that.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally posted by White Line Nightmare:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Cemetery Man:
"Alright tomorrow we gotta big day ahead of us, and we're short on time. Let's go bowling!"
I noticed that, too.
Sr. rides everybody's ass about needing to get a bike built in less than a week, but seems to be the first one to say, "Okay, let's get out of here. We've got a busy day tomorrow."
Every episode I've seen recently has a sequence where Sr. and the crew leave the shop before it has gotten dark.
Now, if you're on a deadline, why not just pull a few long days instead of doing 9-5 all week? They could stay in that fabrication shop until dawn if they wanted to.
It sucks, and I can understand why they DON'T, but if you've got two or three days to get a chopper built before going to prime & paint, don't piss away your time by going out bowling or getting lunch.
<font color="#cd6600"><font size="1">[ February 17, 2004 04:34 PM: Message edited by: White Line Nightmare ]</font></font></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...and that's why there's a big difference between what really happens and what the show's producers want you to beleive... It's all creative editing and set-ups...the only reality is that there is a bike being built. Any drama is manufactured by the producers.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whenever you're dealing with any kind of "reality" show, there's going to be a lot of production tricks to create entertainment.Quote:
Originally posted by Skull-n-Bones:
...and that's why there's a big difference between what really happens and what the show's producers want you to beleive... It's all creative editing and set-ups...the only reality is that there is a bike being built. Any drama is manufactured by the producers.
There's a lot of subjectivity there.
Instead of real people, we get edited-down characters. Sr. is "the hard-ass with a heart of gold." Jr. is the "arrogant genius." Mikey is the comic relief.
Though I love American Chopper, it's formulaic. You can pretty much call what's going to happen in every episode.
THIS WEEK ON AMERICAN CHOPPER:
-A chopper needs to be built in less than a week for a show/important client.
-Shit goes wrong with the fabrication.
-Sr. gets pissed off and goes on a tirade. Jr. gets pissed, Mikey laughs.
-Mikey pisses off Sr. for no other reason than because he can. Sr. tells Mikey to get out of the shop and go back to working in the office. His shop priviledges are revoked until next episode.
-Sr. cools down when he sees how good the design is looking in three dimensions, commenting on somebody's "good i-dears."
-The design/fabrication crew talk about how great it is to be working on such "an important/special bike."
-Sr. reiterates how happy he is about the progress of the bike, commends the Vinnie and the rest of the crew, though says they goof off sometimes. He also says how proud and surprised he is by Mikey and Jr.'s work.
-Sr. and the rest of the staff leave the shop, saying how the next few days are going to be busy.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed! Plus, Vinnie is the hardest worker they have in that shop. And my favorite!Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
I was pissed when he got all over Vinnie about cleaning the place. he's too compulsive on that shit. thats more important than the customers bike and thats fucked up. Too old fashioned thinking. he's like a lot of the idiot bosses I work for.
WLN - not to mention the people involved are liable to play to the camera at times. Jesse from Monster Garage seems like that. AC's still entertaining though.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Speaking of "altered" reality shows...Last night on Monster Garage they did a profile on the U-Haul expert. He wasn't keen about being on the show and kept calling it all "smoke and mirrors man! Ain't nothin' real about this show it's all smoke and mirrors. I prefer to do real work."Quote:
Originally posted by Cemetery Man:
WLN - not to mention the people involved are liable to play to the camera at times. Jesse from Monster Garage seems like that. AC's still entertaining though.
Truth is...there are no "real" reality shows. People on them shows are just cheap scab actors that will work for their 15 minutes of fame.
eh who cares its all for fun and entertainment of watching it.
I like watching stuff like American Chopper, Monster Garage, and Junkyard Wars because I like to build things and watch things being built.
When I talk with my dad (who is a mechanic) about the shows, he says that a lot of them look "set up," especially Junkyard Wars. He argues that a lot of the parts (pumps, valves, etc.) to build the machines are conveniently placed in the yard so that they usually don't have to be built from scratch. He'll call bullshit on Monster Garage when they get thousands of dollars worth of freebies simply because it's Jesse James and his TV show.
Gearheads like my dad and guys like me that're interested in the construction of things will watch these shows regardless. We've worked in shops. We've fabricated before, on various levels.
For Joe Schmo on the street that doesn't know shit about tools, building, or necesarily like cars or bikes, there needs to be some kind of draw to a show about building motorcycles or hot rods.
People screaming and fighting about stupid shit seems just as good a reason as any to watch the show, I suppose.
[quote]Originally posted by Andyman:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh yeah, I can definitely see that with the shows on the major networks alright. Fear Factor alone's one big attention whore magnet!Quote:
Truth is...there are no "real" reality shows. People on them shows are just cheap scab actors that will work for their 15 minutes of fame.