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Just got my car back today from John Eagle Acura. GSS-342 pump installed w/ JRSC total $3467, which was the "agreed" price. Cashier brought it up to $36xx ... anyways, after little chat with them, they manipulated the numbers a little and brought it back down. Hmm...
I called Jackson Racing concerning about the rebate, they said I need a copy of receipt/honda club card/and JRSC warranty card. Urgh, never got the warranty card so I went back to JEA and they said they "couldn't find it" WTF ??? Anyways, more chat....then they finally called the guy who order all these JRSC to send them one for me. will see...
Anyhow, the quality of the installation was EXCELLENT (the mechanic name is Joel K.) Look for him if you are having yours install there.
Wow...the car felt GREAT. Tons of low end...pull all the way until redline..wowoowow... I'm taking it easy for now until I get my ZFR7F-11 installed http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Currently still running on stock platinum http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
I have a question though...the mechanic set the fuel pressure at 60 psi and timing at 12 degrees...no pinging.. is this correct? Is it too high?
I called JR and the rep said it's FINE if there is no pinging..you want to get the highest timing to max your power..what do you guys think???
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Yeah, if you're not getting any pinging then it's fine but 12 deg seems a lot, at least for me. I'm at 9.5 deg using 92 octane.
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1995 Integra GSR
JR Supercharger (6 psi), HO fuel pump, RS*R Header, Thermal R&D Exhaust, Iceman Intake, Neuspeed Front Tower Bar, Type-R Rear Swaybar, Short Shifter, ST 1.3" drop springs
AND NO STICKER'S ANYWHERE!!!!
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random..
If you are interested.. I will be at airtex and i45 (near rankin) at the texico.. cant miss it, tonight 11p-aprx 2a (I gotta work tomorrow at 8a) and will have a set of the ngk bkr7e-11 *brand new* that I will sell you at 2.00 /ea I bought a box of 10 and I have spares http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Up to you though.. look for a supersonic blue teg (the only one this color) w/ some enkie wheels. BTW... Congrats.. I am glad to see another SC'd teg on this board from h-town.
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1992 Red Honda Civic CX Hatch Back
1998 Super Sonic Blue Integra GS-R
Minor bolt ons include:
Jrsc 6psi.. blah.. blah .. blah..
best 1320: 13.86 @101.82 on street tires
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Welcome to the Dark Side...
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'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph
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Hey there! Glad to hear your part of the darkside now!!!
I've got o make a trip back to JEA before my factory warranty runs aout (a little over 2 months and 2K miles http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/frown.gif ) so I'll know to ask to speak to joel and have him check my car out. (The tech who did my install is no longer with them.) I'm relieved you are pleased with his work.
12 degrees of timing and NO PING - WOW, I'm jealous - I have 8-9 degrees and STILL get some ping http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/mad.gif
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Tom
1996 Cypress Green Pearl Acura Integra GSR 4 DR
JRSC with JR fuel pump upgrade
J&S Safeguard
Tokico Illumina Shocks & Eibach Pro-kit Springs
Stillen/Brembo Cross-Drilled Rotors with Goodridge SS Lines & EBC Green Stuff Pads
Kumho ECSTA Supra 712s (205 45 16) on (Heavy)Chrome 3-spoke Procast rims(street)
Kumho V700 Victoracers (205 50 15) on 15x7 rims (autocross)
Century infant and booster child seats in back!!!
1995 Mercury Villager GS Minivan
General Electric Turbofan 48,000 lbs/thrust (needs some tuning...)
Retractable wheels
Twin phaser banks
Electronic countermeasures
Triphasic shielding
12 cupholders
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Hey GSRDPM (tom), well the tech (Joel at JEA)
set it at and he test drive it, he said there is no ping. However, this morning, I took my great uncle to the Intercontinental airport and w/ A/C on, windows closed etc. at every red light, when starting off, each gear gave me a small buzz lasted for 1/2 sec. I'm not sure if that is pinging or what...so I retarded it some more to be on the safe side (I don't have a timing light so I just retarded it blind..moved it about 2 mm)
Which brings me to a question for you (or anyone)...what is pinging sounds like? And is it constant buzz (or whatever the sound is) or instantaneous. Please let me know.
Also, is there a way of knowing if your car pings for sure rather than just "listening"?
John
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gsrev, I'd love to get them from you. Gosh, Pepboys charges me $3.10 a piece plus tax plus special order charges...I'm sorry I can't make it out this weekends. I'm all tied up with the project i need to complete this week (school related).
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Yeah, I like the analogy comparing pinging to shaking a can of spray paint. the sound is distant and the frequency fast and irregular. I hear it best with either the windows up and the stereo and A/C off or with the windows down and passing through a tunnel or next to a hard surface - seems to reflect the sound back at you.
I know it's pinging when I hear it AND the J&S knock monitor is lighting up.
For me it's most noticable in part throttle 3rd gear acceleration runs from about 3-4K.
I just threw some octane boost into the tank in preparation for the SCCA autocross tomorrow morning at the HPD academy. Judging from your schedule, I guess you can't make it.
Alex and I should be running in the morning:
Alex usually runs STU and I am running E-Mod.
I could run in Street Mod, but they are running in the afternoon groups and:
1. I can;t be there late tomorrow.
2. It's just to d*mn HOT out here!!!!
[This message has been edited by GSRDPM (edited August 26, 2000).]
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GSRDPM, can you please post your times after the autocross tomorrow? I'm running my Si (STC) in the afternoon, and I'm curious to compare times.
Thanks,
Matt
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Hmm..weird..I retarded the timing some more...(don't ahve the timing light) but I moved the distributor back about 4 mm...hopefully it'll go away (maybe what I'm hearing is NOT pinging at all).
Here is what I heard. When put in first and start moving (from a stand still), I hear a very slight BRRRRR which is kind of hard to describe and it last for about 1/4 of a second. Same thing will happen with 2nd, 3rd and fourth. Is it pinging?
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Tom.. hehehe.. it's on tomorrow!! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif I am soo excited. My friend is taking his shifter kart and I am debating whether to be a duel driver in his kart or drive my car.. hmmm. More than likely I will drive my car so he can be a passenger along w/ you! Its his first time out there.
Random..
I almost now feel like I am pesturing you, but if you need help.. I have a timing light w/ a degree wheel on it. I am more than willing to help out a fellow FI member.
Oh and btw.. you need to start autox.. put that sc to work http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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I must be one of the unlucky JRSC customers, 3mons after i got the SC on, i heard some funny noise, so i did a leak down test, and sure enough my 3 piston was at 23% leak. then after i took the pistons out, woo hoo, the piston crack in between the rings. if i remember correctly i did my timing to about 8-9 degree. anyhow, now that i built the motor again, i am running 10-12 psi of boost. i just finished breaking in my engine, drove it 2000 miles barely touching the throddle, oh man, that feeling sucks. anyways, now that i broken in the car, the car will boost to about 11psi, then at 6000rpm, i get ZERO boost. i guess the belts r slipping. then i checked the belts, it seems fairly tight. so i called jackson racing about it, then they said "well the supercharge is not design to go that much boost". so i said "but at ur website, u mention that the supercharge will handle upto 13psi of boost. btw its a 97GSR. now i am given a few option, have a machine shop makes a wider pulley.....but as u all know, there is barely any room left in the engine. option 2, put the 6psi pulley back in?? no way. Option 3, take the SC out and put a turbo in. so if anyone has any remedies for the belt slipping. any help would be highly appreciated.
97GSR FOUR DOOR
custom 10.5 JE piston
crower Rods
Type R head, Type R tranny with CUSCO LSD
ARP studs
Benson sleeve
310c.c. injectors
clutch master stage 3, light flywheel.
and much much more computer stuff, with piggy back unit.
any one will tell u that this set up will easily take u to low 12s and even 11s. all i want is to hold the boost to 11psi or so. so anyone got any suggestion?
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Pinging sounds like "marbles in your motor"... usually happens when there is a load on your engine (up hills) when you are below 4000rpm. You'll hear it on hot days and when trying to climb Pikes Peak... http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/tongue.gif
I called Jackson because I haven't gotten my rebate yet, apparently the woman who does them was on vacation for a couple weeks, but the guy I spoke with was cool and siad it would be out soon... I'm going to call monday and see what the scoop is. So, stay on top of them.
Welcome to the dark side. I've been a member for a couple months, and here's what I have learned.
1. Use Mobil 1.
2. Use Redline gear lube. I'm not Mr. Goodwrench, and not a scientist either, but the stuff WORKS (use the yellow bottle).
3. Watch the belt tension. My SC belt fell off and shredded in the rain the other day... SUCKS to fix.
4. Warm up the car to just below half way on the temp gauge before flooring it (and don't go over 3000 rpm's.)
5. Save some cash for the Jackson Black Box!!
Good luck my man,and "may the forced be with you."
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96 Integra RS w/ JRSC 6psi, and a whole bunch of other stuff that has broken the bank.
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randomwalk101:
Make sure the noise your hearing isn't just the JR relay / pressure switch combo. It can make noises that sound like faint detonation. As soon as I removed mine a slight noise I was hearing went with it.
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'96 JRSC GSR Sedan (Black Currant Pearl)
AEM CAI / PMS / J&S Safeguard / Vortech Fuel Rail / Autometer Boost/Vac, Fuel Pressure (Dual Pillar), EGT (in glovebox for now) / Walbro HO Pump / Billstien Shocks / H&R OE Sports / Skunk2 Rear Swaybar / 3pc DC Sports Tie Bars / Bridgestone RE-71 Potenzas
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Okay, final update http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
I retarded the timing by two degrees all the way to 4 degrees..the stupid Brrrrr still there. Anyways, took timing that far down and the sound still persisted gave me an impression that it was not the engine's ping. Anyhow, I went back to JEA anyways for a quick check out. I luckily ran into Joel (the mechanic who installed my JRSC...very nice guy) agreed to sit in and let me drive around while he listened for the pings...He concluded it was not detonation. Anyhow, he asked me to pull into the service bay, and readjusted the timing back for me (12 degrees). The car is a LOT more responsive at 12 deg. He also did a quick scan for the source of that sound (brrr)...he lifted it up, wiggled around. We came to a conclusion that it is probably something external that vibrates (something right under the firewall or behind the instrument cluster). Well I don't really care for what the heck that was...just happy that it's not detonation http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
Joel mentioned that yesterday when I picked up my car, a guy with an LS superchanged came in for a check up..Shamir? I don't remember http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Are you here? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
Well Joel K. at JEA is extremely friendly and is a great mechanic. He did a super job on my JRSC. I'm usually extremely picky about "getting the job done right" but I have no complaint. If you are going to get yours installed, I highly recommend Joel.
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On my way home today, I remembered all the commotion about the hang out at Miami sub (westheimer and wilcrest). I decided to drop by and take a look. I've never came out before...Wow..a tons of people were...but only a few imports. I guess I came a little early (11:30). I only stayed for 5 mins...perhaps more will show up later?
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Tourismo,
You're right. It is probably the relay/pressure switch...That's what JR tech said too. Man, I've been so worked up because of that stupid noise and retarded the timing like 10 tims http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif I drove the car around all day just listening for ping!!! Well, the music is back on http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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cpa, yeah, it could be the fuel running through or the valve/relay switch. I never know what the sound of pinging is like so I got a little paranoid there http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
But anyhow, I'd like to know how to install a small led that would light up whenever pinging occurs..like tapping into a knock sensor wire or something. Anyone has any hints/comments on this???
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Random:
Pull the wire from the JR pressure switch. This will lock the fuel enrichment relay in. Go for a test ride to see if the (relay) noise is gone.
The pressure switch always makes the relay chatter when near 1 psi of boost.
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[This message has been edited by randomwalk101 (edited August 31, 2000).]
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Maybe the noise you describe is the fuel going through the FPR mounted on the firewall? I can hear mine.
