In NYC Last Night

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April 13th, 2004, 10:44 AM
Ostinato

I'm home in NYC visiting family for Easter, and I just happen to walk into in the Bitter End. It's pretty packed, but I can't really see the stage, and the band is setting up.
Suddenly in walks SNLs Shawn Pelton, then the great Steve Hass, after him, Omar Hakim.
Ends up the guys setting up were Jerry Marrotta, and some session guys playing with some young artists Jerry's producing. What a groove Mr JMarrotta has WOW.
When that's nearing the end, I see Anton Fig walk in, then Keith Carlock. But they had their drums. Turns out, they were playing next with guitarist Oz Noy. Both drummers at the same time. Before the show it was a real scene right by the stage. Will Lee, Steve Hass, Shawn Pelton, Keith Carlock and Anton Fig in a circle just chatting it up. I wish I had one of those private eye mechanisms to catch a glimpse of that conversation.
The show was unbelievable, Anton and Keith were on FIRE!
Being from LA, I really appreciated this scene. Apparently it happens all the time in NYC. Bad mo's playing nightly in clubs. I was delighted!
Anyhow, time to catch a flight back to boring LA. HA! It's not that bad.
April 13th, 2004, 11:15 AM
sergus

Quote:

Originally posted by Ostinato:
Being from LA, I really appreciated this scene. Apparently it happens all the time in NYC. Bad mo's playing nightly in clubs. I was delighted!
Anyhow, time to catch a flight back to boring LA. HA! It's not that bad.

I wonder what would you say if you lived here in Portugal... [img]frown.gif[/img]
April 14th, 2004, 04:54 AM
shedder

LA has vinnie, dave, virgil, gary, and greg just to name a few.

LA over NYC anyday.
April 14th, 2004, 10:20 AM
Nikk

My dad can beat up your dad
April 15th, 2004, 07:29 PM
CDelle

Quote:

Originally posted by Ostinato:

Being from LA, I really appreciated this scene. Apparently it happens all the time in NYC. Bad mo's playing nightly in clubs. I was delighted!
Anyhow, time to catch a flight back to boring LA. HA! It's not that bad.

Ooh poor you. Yeah, LA has no music scene at all!

=/
April 15th, 2004, 07:42 PM
FuseU1

You guys are hilarious. I needed the laugh!

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Nikk - My dad can beat up your dad

LOFL...now that's freeking funny...But let's not go there, because I know of someone's dad who can beat up all our dads... [img]wink.gif[/img]

I thought i had it bad. I do feel for Serg.

[...could beat up, but wouldn't, necessarily...I was referring to Jesus, BTW] [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]

[ April 17, 2004 01:11 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]
April 15th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Klemme

I'm really looking forward to experience Carlock in Action with Sting here in copenhagen in May.

But i still don't consider LA beeing directly borring compared to other places. You may be right with LA not beeing the Session haven it used to, but there's still some serious muscisians around the area [img]smile.gif[/img]
April 16th, 2004, 02:27 AM
FuseU1

A pretty cool night, i would say.

It would seem Ost was being facetious about the whole "LA vs. NYC thing" when he said
"Anyhow, time to catch a flight back to boring LA. HA! It's not that bad" in the very last line. [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]

[ April 15, 2004 11:30 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]
April 16th, 2004, 11:09 AM
sergus

FUSE, thank you ...
One of the main reasons i come to forum on a daily basis is to learn, share and feel a little closer to the action (even if it is only thinking about it).
And now that i'm talking about it:
I find really incredible the effort (and consequences) of Steve Holmes, I really appreciate it. i'm sure you read this a lot of times but I'll state anyway, your "house" has turn into a great house to be when you love drumming. Thanks.
It's really important too to have great participants as most of the people here are...
April 16th, 2004, 04:43 PM
FuseU1

No problem, Serg. Glad to see you in here. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

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It's really important too to have great participants as most of the people here are...

Well, with the exception of what would be deemed a momentary emotionally reactive indescretion or one, i try to be one of those [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img]

[ April 17, 2004 01:24 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]
April 17th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Ostinato

HEY HEY HEY!
I didn't imply LA sucked. Let's get some FACTS together. I love LA, which is why I moved here from NY. Also, LA barely has a live scene. You can't make a living playing gigs in clubs 6 nights a week like you can in NYC. You can't play on jingles several times a week in L.A. Gigs in LA pay terribly. The average wedding drummer in NYC makes $350 bux a gig. Because of these FACTS, there's WAY more music happening in NYC. Every night of the week. Not once a month at LaVeLee or The Baked Potato. The musicians who are TOP notch that live here are always on the road, and live there because it's gorgeous. Believe me, I love the players out here. But you can't compare a handfull of players to 80% of who's who in drumming.Steve Gadd, Bill Stewart, Brian Blade, Jack Dejohnette, Jeff Watts, Jeff Ballard, Antonio Sanchez, Horacio "El Negro", Steve Jordan, Rodney Holmes, Cliff Almond(just moved), Steve Hass, Keith C, Anton, Dom Fam, Jim Chapin, Amir Thompson, Shawn Pelton, Omar, you know I can go on and on and on. AND it doesn't cost you $25 and more. The other night in NYC I paid 5bux for that show with Marotta, Carlock and Fig.
Again, it's not a competition. I love LA as well. But let's face it, you give up some of the arts for the nice weather and the better quality of life. You'd never find some of the cutting edge jazz and groove music here that you'd find in NYC.
We do have some things going on if you feel like driving on the freeway for 20mins those few times a month and paying some cash with a drink minimum. But come on. No city in the world has the kind of nightly blowing that NYC offers. I live in LA and I can admit that.
Take Care
B
April 18th, 2004, 01:10 AM
FuseU1

[Ost, see my last post on the "Diana Krall with Erskoman on drums" topic [img]wink.gif[/img] ]
April 18th, 2004, 03:35 AM
sergus

You surely are... as you know.
April 24th, 2004, 04:18 AM
sashal3

You're right about the cover and drink minimum. I gladly pay it to see Vinnie. Several years back,I lived right down the street from Luna Park and I would go to see Novak play with a band called Prophecy. SICK!!!! I usually would meet him there and help carry his drums into the venue(alleviating the cover charge). One of the most memorable nights was when Bob Berg(RIP) was in town mixing Another Standard. I ended up walking with Bob to his rental car and sitting there with Bob,Gary and his girlfriend(now wife) listening to the mixes. I remember Bob asking me what I thought! UnF'ngbelievable!
Anyway,LA has some cool shit,you just end up paying a lot for it! Good times!
April 24th, 2004, 12:36 PM
blake1

There is a great gig to see everynight in N.Y. Nothing fazes a New York audience. They are really spoiled. I can go see Jeff Tain Watts for $5 on most Monday nights.
The problem is getting my own stuff done if I go out every night. To make a living in N.Y. you have to hook up with studio work/ weddings and parties or play with singer songwriters who have day jobs and can pay for rehearsing and gigs. Jazz gigs aren't going to pay the bills unless you're in Europe every few mos or playing every night in any room.
It's very intense and can ruin your hearing if you keep that lifestyle up too long.
Everyone is different, so I can only speak for myself.

For you L.A. guys- One of my favorite gigs was hearing Vinnie with Chick Corea. Now, that's like a comet that comes near earth every 100 years.
April 24th, 2004, 04:22 PM
FuseU1

Hey Blakemeister -

Quote:

1. - It's very intense and can ruin your hearing if you keep that lifestyle up too long.
2. - For you L.A. guys- One of my favorite gigs was hearing Vinnie with Chick Corea. Now, that's like a comet that comes near earth every 100 years.

1. - That's why I carry those little foam earplugs in the little individual packages with me to any club or concert.
I went to see the [famous rock band] Boston last yr for the sake of retro/memories...they were great [their 'new' drummer had strong meter & played the parts pretty much EXACTLY like those albums], but it was in an indoor sports arena / hockey dome & it was too da** loud [I'm not 17 any more [img]wink.gif[/img] ]...i had forgotten the plugs [doh!], so i went to one of the mens rooms & stuffed some TP in there [NTB confused with "shtuff coming outta your ears!" [img]wink.gif[/img] ].

2. - That's why i went up there last summer to see Chick w Vinnie AND Weckl [& Brecker/Marienthal, Gomez/Pope, Burton, Gambale], because as you said, THAT'S like "a comet that comes near earth every 100 years"...[plus, i gots the added benefit of meeting you & Tombo...missed out on Bryan V & P Track, who've not posted in here for a while now...

When i was doing a 3 wk Meadowlands gig up there in June '97 [the fair], I really wanted to go into the city to see Kev Eubanks & band, but my last showtimes interfered with his sets [doh, again] [img]frown.gif[/img] ...but i DID get to go & see a killer latin/brazilian/jazz band [4got the "basement club's" name] w Paolo Braga on kit, & Hiram B sat in. [img]smile.gif[/img] But then I know that's a "regular" type of occurrence around there. ;c)

[ October 13, 2004 01:59 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]