I watched the clip of the beheading of Nick Berg.
I really feel sick. Like my throat is way too small.
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I watched the clip of the beheading of Nick Berg.
I really feel sick. Like my throat is way too small.
I refuse to watch it
I refuse to watch it as well.
just giving them what they want when you do, in small terms, but the same never the less.
I don't know why I did. I just couldn't believe it would be like that. So sad how Human beeings can be capable of such things. Especially since we're capable of the best.
To be filled with so much hate to be able to do that. I just can't comprehend it.
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
i haven't seen it
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know what you mean and that's in fact what they wish you'll feel. The way to fight horrible acts is not to answer by other horrible acts.Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">youre better offQuote:
Originally posted by Mortitia:
i haven't seen it
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 12, 2004 02:09 PM: Message edited by: chaserfan ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't watch it.Quote:
Originally posted by Mortitia:
i haven't seen it
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know what you mean and that's in fact what they wish you'll feel. The way to fight horrible acts is not to answer by other horrible acts.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess. It just makes me sick and angry and I swear if I would have had my finger on the button, I'd have given it to the whole country making it nothing but desert. thats one reason I wont watch it. Just hearing about it makes me feel that way, I cant imagine how I'd feel other than sick if I watch it.Quote:
Originally posted by *PORTHOS*:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chaserfan:
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
They showed this on TV??? [img]eek.gif[/img] ... [img]graemlins/gulp.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Someone posted a link for it on the white board...Quote:
Originally posted by Shypappy:
They showed this on TV??? [img]eek.gif[/img] ... [img]graemlins/gulp.gif[/img]
Oh! [img]confused.gif[/img] How nice!
if there is a god, he should just wipe this whole place out and start over.
I felt bad enough just reading the reports and seeing the still photos that are being put on news sites.... no way I need to see the actual video. [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]frown.gif[/img]
link please.
I always have room in my belly for a little more hate.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe he could just contact every visitor of our board and ask them to save a 100 people, put us all in a big boat like Noa and create the biggest flood in the history of mankindQuote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
if there is a god, he should just wipe this whole place out and start over.
[img]smile.gif[/img]
if you believe that bible stuff, he promised Noah that he would never end the world by flood again.
Just omit it like it never existed if god is all powerfull and can do anything.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I belive in Jesus as a guy that came and did good things to people. Don't really know what to think about the old testament.Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
if you believe that bible stuff, he promised Noah that he would never end the world by flood again.
Just omit it like it never existed if god is all powerfull and can do anything.
I have so many questions about the bible stuff. I'm just the kind of person that doesnt care much for organized religions and just belive you should be a decent person and IF there is a god it will love you for that.
sorry this got switched to a religion post
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No problem, I pretty much agree with your view on religion. and that's why I say I try to live by Jesus words. For me Jesus is the ancester of volunteer works. He was just a really great guy.Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
I have so many questions about the bible stuff. I'm just the kind of person that doesnt care much for organized religions and just belive you should be a decent person and IF there is a god it will love you for that.
sorry this got switched to a religion post
Well colour me confused. What's this?
I downloaded it off kaaza, pretty gross, i really feel for him and his family. [img]frown.gif[/img]
I didn't see the video, but someone sneaked some stills of it on another forum and I ran into them. I didn't see too much of it, but was extra freaked when I heard that it wasn't exactly a swift death for the poor guy. At least there was one rescue of one of the hostages (remember that guy from Mississippi?).
Bottom line is all of the shit going on over there is just crazy, we should up and leave I say. But I know that's not going to happen soon. American contract workers killed and hung from a bridge in Fallujah, the Iraqi prison fiasco, now this. Something's bound to happen again, photographed or videotaped I'm sure.
I've heard some people say "So what? Those contract workers were paid alot of money, they knew the risks. Portions of Iraq hate us, we bombed them and invaded!". ..but while it's understandable if a portion of the people over there are pissed at the coalition, Berg's case wasn't just some combat related death. I don't believe that Berg had it coming. Anyhow, as Porthos basically said one vile act doesn't justify the other.
Ok, off my soapbox now...
<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 12, 2004 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Cemetery Man ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure they feel the same way about us after seeing the way those soldiers treated their people in those horrible photographs that were released.Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
wasnt as bad as i expected...still an atrocity.
ive got about 25 different takes on the whole situation...from martyrs to murders...but ill say you the rambling.
Like bonedust, I also thought it would be worse. I expected to at least get a little queasy. It's rare for something to give me that sort of a reaction (a scene from 21 Grams almost pulled it off), but seeing someone's head get carved off seems like something that would have some impact. That wasn't the case, though. I just watched the video, put on some music, and made something to eat like I had originally planned. Seeing that wasn't nearly as big of a deal as I expected. Sure, I feel bad for the guy, but it's not going to change my life or get me hot-blooded. Just because he's a white American who was killed on video, it isn't going to make me any angrier than the things we do to others. The ignorance of our people is what upsets me. My grandmother's response was something along the lines of "We just need to kill all of those fucking rag-heads." And she made sure to clarify that she meant all of them, not just the ones who have committed terrorist acts. If we're going to do that, we might as well take care of the beaners, niggers, and gooks while we're at it, right?
Sad s*it that's all I can say. Spinning out of control....
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure they feel the same way about us after seeing the way those soldiers treated their people in those horrible photographs that were released.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure so also and I could have seen some turn about as fair play, but beheading him was going too far. also, they're the ones that want to play terrorist. what was he there for? helping to rebuild their country for them? I still say fuck this war to hell.Quote:
Originally posted by Tortricidae:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chaserfan:
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you fucking serious or just being sarcastic to appear funny and shit?Quote:
Originally posted by CBMatt:
...If we're going to do that, we might as well take care of the beaners, niggers, and gooks while we're at it, right?
I hope so to
i see thats its supposed to be sarcastic...even still...its WAY inapproprite.
clean it up.
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic to illustrate how ignorant his grandmother's comment was.
Personally, I think it's a terrible thing, but if you go into hostile territory, stuff like this is going to happen. How many people do you think the US has tortured and killed behind closed doors?
One thing to keep in mind: the pics of the prison abuse are only what they (our gov't) wants us to see. One of the guys that works for me just returned from Iraq Sunday night. He worked for the new general in charge of all the prisons. And he said the photos we've all seen are nothing compared to what is really going on.
However, none of this justifies murdering an innocent civilian who was there just to help.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure they feel the same way about us after seeing the way those soldiers treated their people in those horrible photographs that were released.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure so also and I could have seen some turn about as fair play, but beheading him was going too far. also, they're the ones that want to play terrorist. what was he there for? helping to rebuild their country for them? I still say fuck this war to hell.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the war is a bad thing..and yes, beheading him was going too far.Quote:
Originally posted by chaserfan:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tortricidae:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chaserfan:
this is gonna sound bad and hatefull, but when they talked about that on the news, I just wished I could have dropped a nuke on that whole country and got the shit over with.
not everyone in iraq is "playing terrorist", though. a lot of people are just trying to survive, and have absolutely nothing to do with what's going on. bombing the whole place back into a desert would solve nothing, and isn't fair to those who are innocent. america and every other part of the world has its own share of monsters, who kill innocent people just because they can. it's not something exclusive to terrorists.
I am not defending the terrorists in any way, shape or form. but people saying that every muslim/arab/person from that part of the world is a terrorist or that their country needs to be turned into a parking lot/desert/ruin rubs me the wrong way. my great grandfather was a muslim holy man. and it hits very close to home for me when people paint the middle east, the muslim religion, and people with the same broad brush. it's no more fair than claiming everyone from oklahoma is a psycho because timothy mcveigh was from there, or that all sports stars are wife beating, drug abusing, murdering rapists because of the actions of a few.
and that last paragraph isn't directed at you..I simply went off on a tangent. I hate this war, I hate what it's done to our country, and I want it to be over and done with as much as the next person.
all of our civilians should be ordered out of that hell hole country
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, Peter hit the nail on the head. People make such ignorant comments all the time. It's possible that this is limited to little hick communities such as the one I reside in (doubtful), but terms/phrases such as "rag heads" and "kill those dirty middle easterners" are thrown around as casually as "hello" and "goodbye". It's ridiculous. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone; I just wanted to demonstrate the ignorance of people I see on a daily basis. When I say things like that to my grandmother, I think she takes the sarcastic suggestions into consideration. Stupid white people.Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Hoffman:
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic to illustrate how ignorant his grandmother's comment was.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">CBMatt, I fully get the intense disgust and sarcasm in your post. Props to you for putting it so well, that people had read it twice.Quote:
Originally posted by CBMatt:
If we're going to do that, we might as well take care of the beaners, niggers, and gooks while we're at it, right?
Read this for what it's worth to futher boost your point. There was a documentary on MTV a while back about the rebuilding of Iraq. It showed a side of Iraq that NO OTHER news program ever showed. It showed teens just like American teens, who want freedom and westernization. There are music stores in Iraq that promote 50 Cent and Jewel and Snoop Dogg in their window. Internet cafes are popping up left and right now that censorchip was removed.
I was blown away to see people just like us (Like the South Park episode) over there who want the same things we do...BUT what do we see on the 6:00 news? Screaming rag-heads beating statues with their shoe...Way to manipulate the people of the US. Our media is as manipulative and deceptive as any 3rd world dictator ruled country.
Of course this mind-opening documentary was only shown once. Why? because it was honest and defied the mainstream media message.
It was mind blowing to see people over there exactly like us....you would have had to have seen the special to fully understand what I'm talking about.
I'm against terrorism..(DUH), but to lump an entire country is equal to the Japanese internment camps of WW2...
It's all so fucked up...we need a meteor to cleanse the filth known as humanity so the earth can go back to it's peaceful self.