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Just a heads up. It's probably not a good idea for you to simply 'use' this forum to feed your threads at another. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums...d.php?t=287570
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums...d.php?t=287407
I didn't see anything wrong with this. I saw this cool video clip on this site, so I showed it to my friends on MX. It's not like you guys made the clip. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Also, I made the thread about a play along recording thing after the thread on here, I believe. I just thought it would be a good idea to help MX get a little more fun. I downloaded some tracks from my friend Josiah, and was wondering if anyone had anymore, since I lost my "Contemporary Drummer +1" tape.
I really see nothing wrong with this. You've seen the people from MX. Do you really want them knowing about a more civilized forum like this, so we can get a bunch of crazed noobs in here? [img]eek.gif[/img]
Furthermore, you're a big baby.
Lighten up, man [img]cool.gif[/img]
Who are we to tell him where to post videos that are open to the public anyway? I clearly see your point rudy, but let them have their fun. Its not like there's much going on there anyway, the first poster simply posted a link with no comment after it - I prefer the environment here where theres some decent discussion. You see where I'm getting at.
Fair comments, my bad.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To be honest dazz, that was my first thought and it annoyed me too that your folder had become vulnerable to inspection. Would have been best for cameron to save the file and upload to his own ftp.Quote:
Originally posted by Dazzler:
Hmmmmmm, thanks for posting a link with my name in it and the isp, so anyone can have a look at my ftp folder Cameron. Very thoughtful of you. At least you can disguise it here on HOD.
Tool.
<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ January 09, 2005 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Dazzler ]</font></font>
Net forum faux paus. Bad protocol.
Also, ripping Weckl's Play-along's is in bad taste AW, IMO. Because, quite honestly, it takes well-earned $ out of his pocket, when it's solely his property to begin with. [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img]
If you want Weckl's "PA" tunes, just go out & buy the package, or put it on your BDay/Cmas wish list. Don't be a cheap-a**. They, Weckl, & your own learning curve are worth it. And it's quite cheaper than lessons with the man himself, so that in itself makes it a good deal, & worth it. If one hasn't a job in order to get it, then wait until you do have one & earn it.
It's a ? of ethics, something the newer, spoiled generation is in bad need to learn. Just because something can be obtain freely via bootleg rip [via technology] doesn't mean that it SHOULD. Excercise personal restraint, ethics, & dignity. But then, many don't even know what that is today, if it can be obtained for "free." Lack of biz ethics. Pure & simple. One certainly wouldn't like it if it was their livelyhood at stake. JMHO
& a good idea would be to obtain permission from someone to use their link. This should always be sought. Ask permission first.
Sorry if it might sound as if I'm ripping on anyone, as it's not necessarily the intention, but just a thought to consider.
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 09, 2005 05:07 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
Hey, sure thing Daz. Mind if I post some of those pictures we took next time?
If it's a question of ethics, yet also "IMHO", just stay out of it. I bought the package, lent the tape to my friend, and they lost it. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 09, 2005 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Cameron Mahoney ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Try to have some respect for members advice here cameron please and don't be a smartass. What fuse and dazzler said makes a lot of sense. This is not MX, this is a real drum forum.Quote:
Originally posted by Cameron Mahoney:
If it's a question of ethics, yet also "IMHO", just stay out of it. I bought the package, lent the tape to my friend, and they lost it. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ January 09, 2005 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Cameron Mahoney ]</font></font>
Perhaps I should have more respect; perhaps you should also lighten up. I did nothing wrong here.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 09, 2005 11:47 PM: Message edited by: Suspiria ]</font>
Hmmmmmm, thanks for posting a link with my name in it and the isp, so anyone can have a look at my ftp folder Cameron. Very thoughtful of you. At least you can disguise it here on HOD.
Tool.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 09, 2005 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Dazzler ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for that Cameron, very helpful. You don't even have the courtesy to appologise and you don't see anything wrong with linking peoples ftp sites to any forum you like. There is a thing such as manners and 'netiquette' if you will.Quote:
Hey, sure thing Daz. Mind if I post some of those pictures we took next time?
I'm not being precious as I see nothing wrong with sharing, but I posted that clip for my friends here on HOD knowing that one can hide the url of the link. You took it upon yourself to copy/paste it on another site without any second thought, leaving my name and address up there. It's no big deal really, it just shows a distinct lack of thought and regard for someone who wanted to share something and maintain his privacy at the same time.
Also, the fact that you refuse to admit your wrong doings and appologise to me speaks volumes and perhaps other members of HOD will mark your card as someone who is rude, has no manners and is simply an opportunist.
Cameron, It's only in your best interest to give in. Everyone makes a small mistake occasionally - however if you remain so stubborn you're really ruining any chances of benefitting from the great atmosphere and most importantly great wealth of knowledge about drumming from other users around here. Not telling you what to do - just some advice.
EDIT: I see I now have a rating. How did that come about? Thanks for the compliment anyway [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 10, 2005 01:19 PM: Message edited by: Suspiria ]</font>
Honestly I didn't realize what that meant when I did it. Still don't really. I wasn't trying to seem like a smartass either; just trying to make light of the situation. I didn't realize sharing the video with my friends on the other forum would have such negative results.
I still think you guys should relax a bit. Did anything bad even happen to your files or whatever? If something did happen, I take full responsibilty, and you have my apology. I didn't mean to sound non-apologetic, but I still don't think I did anything wrong, or if i did, it was through complete ignorance of how your website works. [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
The biggest thing is that if it was linked to his webspace, you were sucking up HIS bandwidth without his permission. Some people have to pay for extra bandwidth usage, so it just goes back to being the polite thing to do -- asking for permission.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then you have learned a rule that I learned a long time ago as well:Quote:
I bought the package, lent the tape to my friend, and they lost it
1] Never loan out anything w/out understanding this firsthandedly: expect that you may [& prob will-] never get it back.
[Even trusted friends sometimes, as "accidents" can & do happen. ["scat happens" [img]wink.gif[/img] ]
2] Never loan out your orig [master]. Make a copy of the orig for yourself, & only loan out copies to others. THIS RULE IS MANDATORY.
Or:
3] [House rule to be understood by all ;c) ]: Make it clear that one doesn't loan anything out period. No off to anyone; everyone gets preferencial treatment here. ;c) Ignore the whining, guilt tactics, & poss. name-calling behind your back [AWA to your face] that may follow. ;c)
I loaned out my orig master of a now infamous 80s clinic to a trusted friend 3 days after the show. I hadn't even listened to it al the way through yet. I just wanted to be "that cool friend."
He had some very bad news that he didn't want to have to give me upon my return. [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img] [img]frown.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img] He knows that I am a true friend to this day because he is still my friend. ;c) Altho I call him "pal," now, since. ;cP
Seriously, I would be dishonest if I said that I never have appropriated a tune or disc through a trade or via mp3 program [Napster, etc]. So, I am also guilty in this area if I am saying anything that applies to anyone else. It's just that I try now to stay within boot stuff that can't be obtained or isn't being marketed, so that it doesn't take $ out of the artist's pocket. & as a muso myself I try to put myself in their shoes, as I wouldn't appreciate it. [Except for guys like Lars ;cP J/K He's filthy, stinkin' R enough ;cD]. You never know how things come around, & word can also travel quietly & quickly in the music biz circles.
Anyhow, just a thought. I'm off the "soap-box" now. ;c)
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 10, 2005 12:51 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
Excuse my stupidity, then. I don't know much about this whole interweb thing. [img]tongue.gif[/img]