Journey DVD

Not sure if this was discussed before...my apologies if it was.

I just picked up a DVD today entitled, "Journey Greatest Hits DVD 1978-1997: Music Videos and Live Performances" (at Circuit City of all places!)

I'm a huge fan of Steve Smith (particularly his work with Journey) and have been wanting some vintage Journey video for a long time. It's not a whole concert, and there are no drum solos or extended drum shots, but it's still cool to watch. Lots of live footage and some music video/studio footage as well. (A few tunes feature Ansley Dunbar.) I recommend it to any fan of Journey during their hey day.

I know Steve has been criticized from time to time, but he was one BAD-ASS rock drummer in those days. He really played the shit out of that gig....that was one TIGHT band live. We talk about Vinnie playing with his middle finger in the air (which is very, very true), but I think that was a key ingredient in Steve's drumming with Journey. There was a certain feel in his playing that I really dig.

Best $12.99 I spent today! [img]cool.gif[/img]

yes, great dvd and Steve Perry is working on a new one featuring the Houston concert, a longtime boot fav.

vinnie literally plays with his middle finger up in the air.

You need to get Frontiers & Beyond-- hard to find and a bit expensive. I went on a Journey forum, did a thread on it, found some gal who loved Journey & asked her for it or a trade and she copied it for me. It is a 1983 documentary on the band--very good! Also, I have a Live in Japan DVD of the band. Production not as good as a US tour, but you get Smith in his Journey prime. He did kill this gig. Even if you just tuned in and said, "Oh, Journey's a good rock band and the drummer is just a rock drummer" on viewing this, you should think that this guy is really good. You can see it in his eyes, in his body language. The guy's great. No one in here in their right mind (and we've had a few lost minds lately) would criticize Steve for not being "par excellence" as a musician.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 01, 2004 11:14 PM: Message edited by: PocketPlayer ]</font>

I have the Frontiers and Beyond DVD before Steve Perry told the band to stop selling it. The japan concert is great, I have an excellent copy of that one on DVD.

I saw that Greatest hits DVD at a store here...I was thinking of buying it...I think I will now for sure.

My favorite thing about that DVD are the occasional cool fills from Deen and Neil Schon's guitar playing.

I have a newer one with another singer who, oddly looks like Steve Perry a bit and has the same first name (Steve Augeri, I think), and Deen Castronovo drumming. I'm a fan of Deen's since I saw him and S.Smith do a drum set battle at a Sonor event at a NAMM about 10 years ago. It's interesting to hear another good player's take on the parts. I'd like to get a good DVD of them with Smith, but was afraid the footage would be disappointing.

Brad

I can't watch that DVD Journey 2001.

The "Frontiers & Beyond" VHS used to actually be in the closest Blockbuster Video, here. Then, it was abruptly yanked. [img]eek.gif[/img] As I can see now, prob due to the reason Randy stated.

I had copied part of it to VHS back in the early-to-mid 90s sometime...at least the part addressing Smith & w his solo [img]wink.gif[/img] ...the part that starts w an exhilarated/astonished Schon watching Steve jamming on the armrest of an arena's dressing room couch & foot tapping on floor...it was since lost. [img]frown.gif[/img]

I recall it was a cool "blast from the [80s] past."

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 02, 2004 01:07 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

Fuse, the VHS has been long out of print, recently the band pu it to DVD WITHOUT Steve Perrys permission, being that all things pertaining to Journey pre2000 still have to go thru him for approval....Journey2000 is a brand new band split 5 ways and is a total seperate business deal. In order for the band to release Journey2001 the concert, they had to get Perrys approval since the tunes were all or most cowritten by Perry.

Anyway, Perry found out about the DVD and made the band cease and take it out of circulation, I was able to get one before they were destroyed.

Geeesh, randy.

it makes me appreciate steve perry even less! i loved his singing and all. i just can't believe the rest of the guys just signed over the rights to just one guy! unfortunate.

whenever i play ballads, i always imagine that i'm steve smith.

It's not that they signed the rights away, it's that they forgot that it's a 'business'. They chose to fire Steve Perry, but he is still a business partner when it comes to anything pertaining to Journey up to 1996 and releasing Frontiers and Beyond without his concent was a no no.
I think it was Irving Azoff that went to Perry and got him to approve of the band doing a live DVD and then asked Perry to put together 'with' input from the other members the DVD collection that came out last year.
Now I have heard Perry is working on a new live Journey DVD culled from the famous Houston MTV concert, there might even been extra footage.

Very kewl, indeed.

Even tho there's "talk" of Perry's att & the band's "situations" w him [some likened to the "Don King/Tyson" or "Rocky Balboa Vs. Tommy Gunn" type syndrome], I will say that he is still one of my fave pop/rock singers, ever.

Even if he DOES have those so-called, "80s, high-pitched contratenor/falsetto, 'girlie-boy'" vocals that the metal guys used to bag on [because it didn't sound as if he'd swallowed a fistful of razorblades http://www.hostboard.com/forums/ ]...I think some peeps were just getting a little tired [ya think?!] of all those types of bands w the high vox getting signed...& ESP the Perry wannabes in your local clubs & garages...

But then I always liked that style anyway. Brad Delp, Fran Cosmo [Boston], Tony Harnell [TNT], Rik Emmit [Triumph], Max B from GTR [w Mover], Geoff Tate [Queensryche], & Steelheart's, etc, all used to slay me...even Warrant, & Europe's, I'm embarassed to say. Final Countdown http://www.hostboard.com/forums/ ...hated the song tho. ;c) Some of these guys could bust YOUR b*llsacks with some of those notes...

Augeri's vox are very nice...& he sounds a lot like Stv, & can cover the parts, but...he "still quite ain't no Perry." ;cp

Deen on Mother Father is still kickin my tail. I can hear that it's not Perry, mostly, but I am still a little suspect along w RW about hearing those little Perryisms & nuances that sound a little TOO much like Perry himself...even Deeno can't be THAT good an impersonator[?!]...[background/accompanying trax?!]...;c)

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Right then, Steve-o [P]; get the lead out on that Houston thing, please http://www.hostboard.com/forums/ ...as there's some substantial "retro-$" to be made...[not that he needs it]...I'll get it...after all, it's "owed your fans" anyway, isn't it?! lol http://www.hostboard.com/forums/

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 04, 2004 03:19 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

Here's Perry talking about the DVD and life after Journey...

http://www.steveperryfanclub.homeste...heRecord3.html

Perry BITES! The new lineup is great. I saw them live and it was refreshing. The band has new life. Deen idolized Steve and cherished his signature parts. Even Smith said he would not play them note-4-note if he was in Deen?s position. I liked Arrival (which got back to the theme title?s Journey was after when they did Raised on Radio which Perry controlled, getting away from the master plan after Frontiers).

Thanks T-BO!

A Few Clips?
http://www.steveperryfanclub.homeste...s/SteveJoe.jpg
Perry on Smith
?Ya know, Steve Smith was one of my favorite drummers I've ever had a chance to work with. And there were times where, because I was a drummer, I really would call on him to do certain things for me, and he would do certain things for the song, and between the two of us, there were just things that were hit off of, and sang around, and played with, and he was trying to be, um, I don't know, he was kinda the conductor of the band, but I was definitely into helping him conduct the band and asking him for certain things to do that so that it would give me an opportunity to hit off some of the things he's guiding the band through. Ya know, he was my favorite conductor...?
--sounds like Mr Wonderful here.

Perry not letting go
In 2004, Journey is going to get a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame.

SP: ?the big question is whether I would show up or not and, you know, I gotta tell you, the honest, honest feeling is that ummm, I just don't know if I want to do that, it's not that I don't think I'll show up at the star someday and take a picture with ah, standing on it, and ah, look at it and have a moment of reflection to myself, or how hard it was to possibly see that happening in my lifetime, but whether or not we stand together anywhere again has got to be difficult for me to say.

Perry full of himself
A request came in for a new film, written by Patty Jenkins, and directed by Patty Jenkins, and she and Charlize Theron wrote me a letter and ummm, requesting that I at least consider this one scene in the film called "Monster" that they're finishing, to use the song "Don't Stop Believin'"

SP: I was moved by the letter and I returned the phone call, talked to Charlize for a while, and ah, then Patty came on and we talked for a long time, and they said could we just send you a piece of the film so you can see what we're talking about?they sent me a piece of the film?I called back and said could I come down and, you know, meet you, and talk to you guys about it?I went down and sat while we dubbed it into the film, got to be involved in one more little emotional equalisation of tweaking, add a little highs, a little bottom, 'cause you're dealing with the sub-woofers that you can help, and enhance it a bit more, so I got into that process with the mixer, and so, it really is an amazing scene.

--Just give them the stupid song dude and let it go. The guy has to control their movie project. How about, ?Hey thanks, it?s a privilege you want to use the song I wrote?and thanks for the huge coin I?ll get as well..I mean, I control all Journey stuff anyway and make tons of cash sitting on my <s>butt</s> hip doing nothing but live in the past." I bet he took credit somehow for Charlize's Academy Award..."It was my song that gave her the emotional strength to push onward..."

Has there ever been a guy with so much talent that is trully so INSECURE than Perry!?!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 02, 2004 10:56 PM: Message edited by: PocketPlayer ]</font>

I di dnot like Arrival at all and the disc that came out after Arrival, RED13 is even more of.. well.

randy,

i totally understand what you mean. i got into journey when escape was out. so that was THE ORIGINAL journey band for me.

at the same time, it is a trip seeing the two new guys, steve augeri and deen castranovo playing with these guys cuz they do a great job. i felt the same way when randy jackson (american idol) and mike baird had filled in for ross and steve. although i thought that that was sacrilege!

Yeah, the DVD is worth having. It's cool to see all the old, horrible videos (Steve Smith drumming on trash cans on Separate Ways is just frightening), and Faithfully is still the best rock ballad ever written. Some of the live stuff really rocks.

I also have the Japan concert on VHS. I assume it's the same one you guys are talking about on DVD. I bought mine on Ebay for nine bucks.

Pocket -

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Has there ever been a guy with so much talent that is trully so INSECURE

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And the answer is - YES.
I have met & also worked for several musicians, dancers, & singers who were extremely insecure, control freaks, NTM narcissistic & full of themselves.

I will have to say that out of all those I worked w, Marty Balin was the ONLY really down-to-earth guy in the bunch...I say this as, a "real guy," & not "feigned" or "false humility."

Many peeps will present a facade of humility, nobility, or martyrdom to their fans...but get in a closed room w them & it's an entirely diff matter altogether. Over a period of time you WILL learn the real person hiding underneath. Throw some cash issues into the mix & watch the real she height fly...

The room's too small for you AND their ego.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 04, 2004 03:39 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

"I will have to say that out of all those I worked w, Marty Balin was the ONLY really down-to-earth guy in the bunch..." --FUSEU1

That's just sad! Maybe some of these "peeps" should make more effort to live the message of some of their lyrics. This reminds me of a story
told by Herbie Herbert, longtime Journey manager and featured on Frontier?s & Beyond.

Context: Herbie Herbert picks Jon Cain up at the airport to join Journey. Cain gives him a tape of his wife and tells him if you want me, make my wife?s career happen. Herbie realizes from the get-go, Cain is a jerk (not his choice of word).

Herbie: We record the [Escape record] (and) it's magnificent. I sequence it, entitle it, and package it, as I always would. We're ready to hit a home run. We had this big party at Fantasy records in Berkeley, with all the press, media and radio there to hear this new masterpiece. Something goes wrong, and Perry's in there with Jon Cain, and somebody suggests 'Wow, this is so great, Jon Cain sure did bring a lot as a songwriter!' And he did! You said it yourself. You know, I agree. Whether I like these people as individuals doesn't have anything to do with my total respect for Perry's talent, for Jon's talent, for all of their talents. But, boy - Perry bristled so much at the notion that Jon Cain had contributed much of anything to that, that he just proceeded to dismiss and diminish Jon Cain's contributions and involvement to the point where Jon Cain had to leave the room and was out in the parking lot, I mean bawling like a fuc*#*# baby. Bawling like a baby. So I went out in the parking lot, and I said, 'Now you see what happens when you run into even a bigger azzhole than yourself? This is what it feels like. Now if you think that you can go tit for tat with that prick, and be as much more a bigger prick than he is, I got news for you. You have met your fuc*#*# match. You know why? Cause everybody sees you coming, Jon Cain. You advertise what a prick you're going to be. Perry -- he's got the bulk of the world fooled. And he had you fooled until tonight.' That was it. That was the beginning of the realization for Jon Cain. I betcha right then and there he said 'I wonder a little bit less why Gregg Rolie walked away from such and incredible enterprise, at such an incredible point in their history.' It was just a no-brainer. Stadium act. How do you walk away? I'll tell you how you walk away. If you were drowning in the ocean, and Steve Perry came along in his luxury liner, he would offer you a life raft in such a manner that you would decline it.

OUCH! [img]graemlins/shhh.gif[/img]

I have a copy of Frontiers & Beyond for sale if anyone wants it. Features Neal getting hit in the head with a beer bottle... [img]mad.gif[/img]

I remember that HH intrvw. Is the link it's on still up/around?

& SSmith was there to witness a lot. He knows more than he's ethically inclined to tell. Oh, the stories he must have. God bless 'im for coming out the great drummer he is in his own way, & [somewhat?!] unscathed at that.

I hate the notion that these types of things happen, but they indeed do. When it comes to $, pecentages of profits or control, you'd better have your hip huggin' wading boots in the closet next to the door for easy access. & maybe a shovel or 2. Not only to scoop & throw out the poop, but to bop somebody on da head/a** with...;c)

Either HH has real issues of contention [to get back at SP about], or...

...Ouch is right. [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 06, 2004 06:10 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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I remember that HH intrvw. Is the link it's on still up/around?

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