Why does Kerry look so old?

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October 1st, 2004, 10:19 AM
reason

I thought Kerry looked better, more presidential than Bush, who appeared pasty white and at times nervous and angry. I couldn't help notice Bush's constant twitching as Kerry spoke.

Clearly Kerry came out on top on this one and the polls clearly reflect this. It's even more remarkable that it happened in a debate on foreign policy - supposedly the Republicans' strong suit.

And greg - are you telling us you're voting against a candidate...because he looks old?

[ October 01, 2004 07:46 AM: Message edited by: reason ]
October 1st, 2004, 11:48 AM
Cagliostro

If I were married to his harpie of a wife who controlled the purse strings I think I would look old too.
October 1st, 2004, 11:50 AM
Cagliostro

I think after his "performance" in last night's debate anyone who votes for Kerry is simply voting against Bush. I can't see Kerry drawing any support on his own merits.
October 1st, 2004, 11:56 AM
gae

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Originally posted by G L:
I think after his "performance" in last night's debate anyone who votes for Kerry is simply voting against Bush. I can't see Kerry drawing any support on his own merits.

That's what I've been saying.
October 1st, 2004, 12:09 PM
Cagliostro

What alarms me the most about Kerry is his insistence on "building alliances" and not taking action without help from other countries. President Bush worked for months to build allies to invade Iraq. He wasn't able to get a broad based coalition. He made the decision to go in anyway. Whether you agree with his decision or not isn't really the issue, he showed leadership and strength of resolve. If we have a POTUS who makes every decision based on whether or not we have other countries supporting our actions we are DOOMED. We may as well hoist the UN flag over the White House (alongside the Hammer and Sickle but that's a later discussion). I think Kerry personifies the kind of American who is ashamed that we are the world's strongest power and yet he wants to "lead" it, he is ashamed we are the wealthiest nation but married a rich widow, he is more than a contradiction. He is confused. We don't need a confused POTUS. We need someone strong and purposeful.
Another thing Kerry said that angered me: he blamed President Bush for "allowing" N Korea to develop nukes. President Clinton yielded to nuclear blackmail and gave N Korea billions in energy assistance to NOT develop nukes. They did anyway. It took the Bush administration to encover the deceit. I was disappointed that President Bush didn't point that out in his rebuttal.
October 1st, 2004, 12:17 PM
reason

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Originally posted by G L:
I think after his "performance" in last night's debate anyone who votes for Kerry is simply voting against Bush. I can't see Kerry drawing any support on his own merits.

Kerry not only looked and sounded more presidential, he had a much firmer grasp of the facts, and demonstrated an ability to identify when something has gone wrong, and an ability to be flexible enough to right a wrong.

The best line of the evening was when Kerry said something along the lines of "It's ok for one to be certain. It's another thing for one to be certain and wrong.

Resolve is one thing. Resolve to the point of being stubbornly wrong and inflexible to change a wrong is certainly another thing.

For Bush to repeatedly harp on Saddam Hussein as an imminent threat when Iran is developing nucular weapons and North Korea has nucular weapons begs the question of Bush's intelligence and ability to lead us through an ever increasingly serious conflict.

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October 1st, 2004, 01:13 PM
cincygreg

Yeah, but John Kerry was the one who brought up needing to get Hussien out of there last night.

Anywho, almost every person I talk to who says they are voting for Kerry say they are really just trying to vote Bush out.

Change for the sake of good is good, sometimes change just for the sake of change isnt.

[ October 01, 2004 10:14 AM: Message edited by: cincygreg ]
October 1st, 2004, 02:12 PM
reason

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Originally posted by cincygreg:
Yeah, but John Kerry was the one who brought up needing to get Hussien out of there last night.

[ October 01, 2004 10:14 AM: Message edited by: cincygreg ]

Huh?
October 1st, 2004, 02:38 PM
cincygreg

He did Reason. He said that the world was a safer place without Sadam Hussien.

Anywho, nothing that was said last night be either changed my mind about anything. I had heard it all before. We all have.
October 1st, 2004, 03:39 PM
cincygreg

Why does John Kerry look about 50 yrs older now?
If he's got that much of a problem with stress, I dont want him to be president.

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October 2nd, 2004, 03:58 AM
reason

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Originally posted by cincygreg:
[QB]He did Reason. He said that the world was a safer place without Sadam Hussien.

[QB]

Huh?