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Is there anything in sexfight stories that immediately kills the vibe for you? For me, it’s blood. Why? Because I read these stories to get off not to cringe and because a sexfight is a war of pleasure, not of pain. Also, anything scatological, which is thankfully very rare.
I am also very averse to violence (serious violence) in the stories that I like to read. I share your view that a sexfight should be a battle of pleasure, not pain. However, it is true that the catfight-that-becomes-a-sexfight is a very popular subgenre and one that can be done very well, with a minimum of hard violence. (One of the best examples of this is Catharsis' masterful story "Homewrecker").
My general rule on these issues, however, is that I just don't read what I don't like. I believe strongly in live and let live, so long as peoples' interests don't break the rules of the forum.
JB
Same here, I don't like serious violence.
Same goes for women wearing stockings - prefer more natural, sporty women - it's not a show stopper, but I prefer women with short hair
Take care
Johannes
In addition to the violence and bodily functions, it's the never ending stories that are the worst. If you can say it in 5000 words instead of 50000, then you probably should because readers will notice the fluff and be turned off by the self indulgence.
For me, in every style of story in the broader genre, it's dialogue that is written for female characters that sounds like it should be coming out of the cast of Mad Men, rather than a woman living our in modern world. If the narrator describes things that way, I can trudge on, but if the characters are, I just have to move on to another story.
Not because the story is meritless, but because suddenly I see, in my mind, the characters morphing from powerful, engaging women at war, to hairy, cigar-smoking guys dressed in lingerie, negligees, or what have you.
Biggest turn off for me is fatality and overwhelming body harming and mutilation. I don't see the point of killing off one of the fighting party when you can have the losing person as a rival in a future battle. (Or an Imagined future battle) The reason i hate mutilation is because I don't know, seeing handycap people fight don't really feel sexual to me. I feel more sorry for the fighters at that point instead of turned on. Don't get me wrong I like pain in a fight, but when you have a fighter get like her eyeball poked out during a fight at that point I just see a cripple fighting another cripple and I just couldn't help but chuckle a little but mostly pity.
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Originally Posted by Rivals_Rapture
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I would, of course, agree that violence is a turn off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuri*****Lover
But I am also put off by unimaginative writing. If a story turns "yada yada yada" I have to stop reading it.
A.P.
Sounds like nearly everyone agrees with too much violence.
Personally I can't stand ties. And tied results are common enough in this genre that I'll nearly always read the end of a story first. Of course I don't love spoiling the results, but I can't stand getting to the end of a contest without a clear winner.
Other turnoff, which is more of a nitpick, is competitors having the exact same body type. So many stories where the only physical difference is blonde vs brunette. I prefer big vs small boobs (don't care which wins), different heights/weights (speed vs strength), etc.
If you haven't already, I highly recommend you sink into Augur's tales. He is on the same page with you about the size difference thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmsloderb
What turns me off the most, is when the story has to do with some kind of huge league. Whenever i read a story starting with introducing the UCWL, UCCAU etc I just turn and leave (that kinda goes for catfight and wrestling stories as well tbh). It loses any kind of intimacy and subtlety, both of which are important for me to like a story.
Also i feel as if some stories are just plain sex, no kind of fighting or competitiveness whatsoever. Not good.
Stories about two women sexfighting for a woman seem like an overkill to me.
Lastly (also goes for all kind of stories) when it involves celebrities, although I know that most people enjoy those.
I think those are my basic turn offs.
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Originally Posted by jmsloderb
Interesting points. And I agree that, in reality, the two combatants would hardly ever be equal body type and breast size matches.
But I am a writer of fiction and that fiction best reflects my personal fantasies of equally busty women coming together in a full body roll-around, as improbable as that might be. Putting words to my sexual imaginings is fun for me.
As for ties, I can also understand your POV. For me, it depends on the story. If I'm writing a one-and-done story, I'm likely to delineate a winner/looser. But in a multi-chapter story, a tie may serve a purpose in furthering the story, i.e., creating a dynamic that necessitates a rematch between two evenly matched antagonists. This particular scenario shows up a lot in stories here.
Anyway, keep your input coming, as you raise some very good points.
A.Penman
I think what this thread illustrates is that what one person absolutely loves in a story, someone else dislikes. in other words, there is no satisfying everyone. To me, that means that we must write what appeals to us and hope that at least some people like the same thing.
I certainly second APenman's points. For me, I have no interest in writing about women who are radically different in body type. This reflects the fantasy nature of what I write. I want to imagine women who I find beautiful battling each other. To me, the only really interesting kind of sexfight is a battle between equals, where either one could win. The matching of like to like is a major part of the appeal. My stories very rarely end in ties, but they usually end in battles where either combatant could win. Referring to the topic of thread, one of the elements I really dislike in a sexfight is when one woman totally dominates the other.
JB
Agreed on ties and virtually identical competitors. It's why some of the "best" writers in the titfight/sexfight realm are people whose stories I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmsloderb
Maybe an even bigger flaw is people that literally write a template and fit slightly different characters into the same story over and over again.
In my interactions with people, both as a writer and as the host of my site, I get a LOT of feedback on what people want. And like JB was saying, their desires conflict wildly.
I am told often that the site has too many catfights and too much violence in a handful of messages and then moments later messages saying we have too much sensuality and not enough violence. Or, in the same, site-goers telling me they love ties! Or the from another person that they hate them. They want milking! No, fatal fights. Where are the feet stories? What about M v M?
I think the mistake a LOT of people make is to think their fetish preference represents the ultimate value of a story. That their fantasy and fetish is what everyone else in the community should have as their own.
Now, all the people here, whose comments I can actually see, have been respectful and cognisant of that dichotomy. But it is something that should be noted. There's a wide array of desires in our community and amongst our writers, and their likes and dislikes are not always or even often a Venn Diagram with a single circle.
I have always found that my preference is away from mutilation or violent fights to the death. The most extreme I usually enjoy is sci-fi or fantasy where the risk of death from too much pleasure makes the stakes of the contest more desperate. While the series I am writing right now has had the loser forfeit their life, they do not lose it with blood or violence. But I think the variety here and on other sites is great, sometimes I want something tender like two lovers and other times I want two enemies trying to viciously dominate each other. I already have plans for different types of stories in the future when I am done with my current series. I just hope everyone keeps posting whatever they want here and the readers can choose what they like without discouraging writers.
Guilty_Spark