officials

**imported_Counts** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:23 PM

If I am not mistaken you CAN put a hand or both on the player with the ball so long as you do not hold push (I do belive that GC does hold and push ALOT until they get a few fouls called then they seem to back off still playing pressure but within the rules)

I think everyone would just like to see more consistantcy in seeing that call made

**pvfan** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:27 PM

They foul every possession, two hands on the back pushing/holding. They get away with it so I cant blame them, I think it's sad the refs around here let Scotty V make the calls for them.

**Herbie42** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:28 PM

Weel said Counts - I think GC does hand check more than most and I think they see whats gonna be allowed and adjust from there - nothing wrong with seeing what you can and cant get away with from game to game. Absolutely no different than a pitcher seeing what the umpire is gonna give him and what he's not gonna get that day.

**pvfan** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:30 PM

Yea, I dont blame them at all. Other coaches when they play them should play the same way and soon as they called a hand check on their team pull a Bob Knight/Stan Wilson might put a stop to some of this.

**imported_GC1** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:34 PM

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**imported_Counts** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:38 PM

I am starting to wonder why more team do not play more of that type of game since it is rare that this area has a big guy that can score from the paint and hurt you lessening the effectiveness of the zone (i am not Basketball expert so there is probably a good reason I just don't know about [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

**pvfan** · February 23rd, 2007, 04:39 PM

Truth hurts, GC by far the best team in the LPD but that defense is foul happy.

**archerwon22** · February 23rd, 2007, 05:46 PM

2 hands is automatic hand check foul. forearm on the torso is automatic. Leaving a hand on is automatic. Bacically if you impede the ball handler in anyway with those I mentioned above is to be called a handcheck. But the officals that do call it are not rewarded by the coaches for calling the game as the book say too. But as long as coaches are voting who works the region that is the type of calls or lack of calls you are gonna get.

**pvfan** · February 23rd, 2007, 05:53 PM

Exactly, let Scotty V tell the refs what to do and the Blue Devils will put the hand check on you.

**kmccall** · February 23rd, 2007, 05:56 PM

That's right. Like I've said before there needs to be a better way of evaluating and rewarding officials. I do not think that coaches should have any say. How are you suppose to call a game fairly and impress a coach at the same time?