Taylor

**CoeburnCane** · November 29th, 2007, 05:04 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slobber Knocker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone help me out and I think this has been posted. I overheard or read somewhere that this has happened to a few Miami players, some kind of "jinkx!" Anyone know about this? Stats?</div></div>

Geez...

OK, Pata was shot last year off campus. Chris Campbell, former LB, died in a car accident in 2002--off campus. Shane Curry (gunshot to the head) Jerome Brown & Al Blades (car accidents) were both already in the NFL before losing their lives--so thusly--off campus.

Everyone makes it out to sound like these things happened right on Miami's campus and that it's a terrible place to go to school. I guess that's what happens when you lean on the media to tell you everything about a situation. Here's a fact--the only death of a Miami player on campus was that of Marlin Barnes when he was with a girl at his UM campus apartment and a jealous ex-boyfriend broke in and beat them to death. That's the only one that happened ON CAMPUS.

But our guys die in car accidents and get shot because they're thugs according to all media outlets. Sickening.

**imported_burrhead** · November 29th, 2007, 05:23 PM

THUG U --like it or not, it is the truth. Have you actually went to school there and hung out with the football team? Hard to defend if you don't know the real situation Brad. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

**burton2019** · November 29th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Please tell us the "real" situation.

**imported_burrhead** · November 29th, 2007, 05:29 PM

The real situation is alot of the Miami players live life in the fast lane and it catches up with them. Hey, Taylor was my favorite Redskin, but his past caught up with him.

**CoeburnCane** · November 29th, 2007, 05:35 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Burrhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">THUG U --like it or not, it is the truth. Have you actually went to school there and hung out with the football team? Hard to defend if you don't know the real situation Brad. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]</div></div>

I've hung out w/some of the players, and met their families at games--some of the nicest and most intelligent people I've met. Ask mega--Demarcus Van Dyke's mom hugged me like 10 times because I came over to them and introduced myself and told them that I had interviewed DVD for CanesOverHere. I was like family after that. They are from Miami.

I myself have never been on campus, but I know a lot of alumni from there who have told me how bad of a rap the campus gets for stuff that's happened to players. For example--Coral Gables IS NOT the rough part of Miami. Liberty City is, and they're pretty far apart geographically. Do your homework on that.

Here's an example you can relate to--do we start calling the Greenwave THUG HS just because Robbins supposedly shoved/punched a player on the field? Do we call the Blue Knights THUG HS because Eric Bevins died in a motorcycle accident near the pool several years back? Do we call Rye Cove THUG HS after their hazing incident a few years back? Do we call VT THUG U after the massacre this past year? According to you, those questions all have to be answered "yes".

It's a misnomer. No one liked getting their collective arses handed to them during the run of the 80's to early 90's. They didn't like the way Miami talked up a big game and backed it up on the field. So the hatred spread due to that...it's really that simple, and anytime someone wants to take a shot--they toss out THUG U w/half-arse evidence behind it most of the time...just like you did.

**CoeburnCane** · November 29th, 2007, 05:36 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Burrhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The real situation is alot of the Miami players live life in the fast lane and it catches up with them. Hey, Taylor was my favorite Redskin, but his past caught up with him.</div></div>

Does dog fighting fit in with living in the fast lane?

If it does, and you're calling Miami THUG U due to Taylor's past...then I guess we've got company for the THUG U moniker up in Blacksburg.

**imported_burrhead** · November 29th, 2007, 05:40 PM

Va Tech is near the top. And most of the incidents involves people with alot of money. Pushing someone and killing someone are somewhat different, don't ya think?

**CoeburnCane** · November 29th, 2007, 05:49 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Burrhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Va Tech is near the top. And most of the incidents involves people with alot of money. Pushing someone and killing someone are somewhat different, don't ya think?</div></div>

Not to the people who put the THUG U moniker on Miami. That's my point. Instead of tossing it around yourself just because the media's inundated us with it, then think about what it actually means and why it's a misnomer.

It's easy to label someone a hardcore criminal when they make one mistake, no matter how bad...isn't it??? But is it fair? That's the question you gotta ask. Be careful how you answer that one.

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · November 29th, 2007, 06:08 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Burrhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">THUG U --like it or not, it is the truth. Have you actually went to school there and hung out with the football team? Hard to defend if you don't know the real situation Brad. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]</div></div>

I've hung out w/some of the players, and met their families at games--some of the nicest and most intelligent people I've met. Ask mega--Demarcus Van Dyke's mom hugged me like 10 times because I came over to them and introduced myself and told them that I had interviewed DVD for CanesOverHere. I was like family after that. They are from Miami.

I myself have never been on campus, but I know a lot of alumni from there who have told me how bad of a rap the campus gets for stuff that's happened to players. For example--Coral Gables IS NOT the rough part of Miami. Liberty City is, and they're pretty far apart geographically. Do your homework on that.

Here's an example you can relate to--do we start calling the Greenwave THUG HS just because Robbins supposedly shoved/punched a player on the field? Do we call the Blue Knights THUG HS because Eric Bevins died in a motorcycle accident near the pool several years back? Do we call Rye Cove THUG HS after their hazing incident a few years back? Do we call VT THUG U after the massacre this past year? According to you, those questions all have to be answered "yes".

It's a misnomer. No one liked getting their collective arses handed to them during the run of the 80's to early 90's. They didn't like the way Miami talked up a big game and backed it up on the field. So the hatred spread due to that...it's really that simple, and anytime someone wants to take a shot--they toss out THUG U w/half-arse evidence behind it most of the time...just like you did. </div></div>
i can also vouch for much of what hes saying......ive also spent a good amount of time on/around the campus for various games/events

the thing is that its easy for these jackasses in the media to paint a picture withou actually knowing the facts or in many cases even having been to the city.....let alone the campus

somebody exxplain something to me logically

if you have guys who are no longer part of the program....or even still in school die.....how is that a reflection on the school or the football program??

how does somebody getting killed in a car crash refelct in anyway on the school or program?

look up how many people are killed in car accidents in this country everyday......im sure there are ties between some of them and an institution of some sort.....yet you never hear about that

how is somebody being shot in their own home.....or in the parking lot of their apartment in cold blood a reflection on a school or its football program??

even marlin barnes who was killed on campus by his gf's jealous ex-bf a reflection on the football program?? the ex-bf wasnt a football player

when you think about that logically it makes sense

ive also had a number of interactions with current and former players and their families at various functions........and for the most part they are a very respectable group......sure every group has theirs that arent.....and this is no different

coral gables is a great, very upscale part of miami

its easy to draw conclusions when you hear the same [censored] from 10 different directions.......but in all reality the media says what they think people want to hear and often it isnt totally factual

this is no different

if you want to see what UM and their football program is really about......go to miami.....walk around the campus......they play a charity softball game every year against the broward sheriffs office......go to that and see how they interact with people......and especially the kids who come out.....go out in the grove.....you will likely run into a few of them on any given night

do that.....interact with them....see the campus and what coral gables is like......then let me know what you think