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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Tennessee had 5 freshmen on the field at once on defense last Saturday. I think most are back this week, with the exception of Reveiz. I felt terrible for that kid.
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Did you see his knee when he was going off the field Saturday night? Puke inducing.
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Reveiz is a big loss. They moved Savon Frazier to the middle. They do get Thompson and Rogan back though. I think we will see a lot better effort than we seen against Ohio but I still think there will be a drop off without Reveiz.

    Really Ohio's QB was pressured all night. He beat us scrambling and making plays. I don't think Todd has that ability. I also think this will be Auburns first test. They haven't faced a good defense yet. I think Monte will give them some things they haven't seen and hopefully we can create a few turnovers in the secondary. I don't think Auburn will have a lot of success running the ball. They will have to throw IMO. With a healthy secondary I like our chances. Todd has played decent. He had his best game against Ball St. I thought. But like Crompton. I think we can rattle him if you put him on his back a few times.

    Malzhan will have a good plan. I just think you win being physical on offense. I don't like the finesse stuff. To cute for me. It looks good when it works but when it doesn't it looks awful. For some reason I have a good feeling about this game. I think Tennessee got a little humbled again from Ohio and freshmen are always up and down. But this is a game the coaching staff knew it needed to win when they took the job. I have to think they will have a good game plan and will make sure everyone is focused.

    I think UT wins 24-16.
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Quote Originally Posted by VOL61 View Post
    They haven't faced a good defense yet.....I just think you win being physical on offense. I don't like the finesse stuff. To cute for me. It looks good when it works but when it doesn't it looks awful.
    So, given that Mississippi State has played Auburn and LSU and still have the 31st ranked D overall....they're not a good Defense? And Auburn may be in a variation of the spread..but that's the most physical form of the spread I've ever seen. They run the ball and bust ya in the mouth....
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Quote Originally Posted by sup-rbeast View Post
    So, given that Mississippi State has played Auburn and LSU and still have the 31st ranked D overall....they're not a good Defense? And Auburn may be in a variation of the spread..but that's the most physical form of the spread I've ever seen. They run the ball and bust ya in the mouth....
    So if you are gonna give credit to Miss St at the 31st rank D you gotta give UT some credit at the 8th rank D. Most of Miss St's success was against their weak opponents just like UT. If it wasn't for playing Jackson St and Vandy then their D wouldn't be ranked so well. They gave up close to 600 to Auburn. So I wouldn't say they have been stout.

    You say the only team UT has played is Florida, which is ranked 3rd offensively in the nation and they held their own with them.

    So you really can't say Miss St has a good D and then discredit UT's D.

    But who knows, Auburn may throw up 500 yards on us then that would knock us down the list a few and I would agree with ya. I will agree with you that Auburn's version of the spread is a lot more hard nosed than most, shoot they ran for 400 on Miss St.... I sure to God hope you all don't have that kind of success on us... This weekend will be a good indicator as to how our season is gonna go and what type of team we have.
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Quote Originally Posted by UTVols2 View Post
    So you really can't say Miss St has a good D and then discredit UT's D.
    Yeah I can...cuz Miss St. has played 2 teams that actually have an offense. All UT's played is Florida...and don't come back with anything about UCLA, cuz the only team they've looked good against in the past 2 years is Tennessee..lol
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Quote Originally Posted by sup-rbeast View Post
    Yeah I can...cuz Miss St. has played 2 teams that actually have an offense. All UT's played is Florida...and don't come back with anything about UCLA, cuz the only team they've looked good against in the past 2 years is Tennessee..lol
    Spread anyway you like but UCLA is 3-0 so far this year so they aren't the worst team in the country. They have a solid D with a subpar offense, one that lost their QB for 4-6 weeks because of a broke jaw at Neyland.

    Guess we will have to wait and see Saturday. I still think it is a toss up with you all having the edge but I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time....
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    I may have said that wrong. I do respect what Auburn has done. They have played better than us up to this point. I don't think they are near as physical as UF. Which also runs the spread. But you can't say much when you look at their #'s. It is impressive. No matter the competition. I do like there RB's. I think they are a good tandem. I think Malzhan is a great Offensive coach. He is putting them in the best position to make plays.

    And what I meant about being too cute... I think when Auburn gets into the meat of their schedule this no huddle stuff and the behind the back draws and that type stuff is really going to hurt them. I think when you play teams that are equal or better teams than you are. You compete by playing good solid football. That means running it, controlling the clock, stopping the run, playing well in the kicking game, not turning the ball over, and not having a lot of penalties. I don't think that Auburns offense is step up to do those things well. Of course that is just my opinion.

    But again, I like our chances to slow down that running game. I think you will see berry in the box a lot against Auburn a lot like the UF game. The game plan will be to make Todd beat us. I think our secondary matches up well. It is the strength of our defense. We get Rogan back plus Jackson is really coming into his own. The key IMO is our LB play. We have to get solid play there or it could be a long night. We just moved Frazier to MLB so there could be some problems. But look for a lot of Nickel with Monte moving Berry around to try and put him in position to make plays.

    I think Auburn is a lot better football team this year. They beat us last year down there. But I honestly feel like we are a better team. I know all about Crompton. But this team can run the football. I have no doubt about that. They play very physical up front and have two good running backs. From what I have seen Auburn front seven isn't as strong as in past years. I think we will control the clock and run the ball. I think if this game comes down to the fourth quarter we can wear that defense down.

    But all bets are off if Crompton has a meltdown.... And lord knows there is a good chance of that. But I expect UT to play well. I think it will be a good game. But I see UT winning this one.
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    IMO, the only weakness Auburn has in their defensive front 7 is #17...and he's about as pitiful as UT's weak side LB (56 maybe?)...both of em get lost easily in the wash to say the least. The thing about Auburn's new O is that it's like a 2 minute drill the whole game...and teams that don't have a really deep bench full of DB's have a hard time keeping up and are sucking wind by the latter part of the 1st half..and into the second half as well. The OC is the same guy that introduced the Wildhog to Arkansas...and he's pretty creative. I think the game will be a test for Auburn, but I don't think it's one they can't pass. BTW, doesn't UT's O look alot like the Oakland Raiders O?...skill everywhere except QB...seems to follow Kiffin around these days..lol
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    Re: Auburn-UT

    Quote Originally Posted by sup-rbeast View Post
    IMO, the only weakness Auburn has in their defensive front 7 is #17...and he's about as pitiful as UT's weak side LB (56 maybe?)...both of em get lost easily in the wash to say the least. The thing about Auburn's new O is that it's like a 2 minute drill the whole game...and teams that don't have a really deep bench full of DB's have a hard time keeping up and are sucking wind by the latter part of the 1st half..and into the second half as well. The OC is the same guy that introduced the Wildhog to Arkansas...and he's pretty creative. I think the game will be a test for Auburn, but I don't think it's one they can't pass. BTW, doesn't UT's O look alot like the Oakland Raiders O?...skill everywhere except QB...seems to follow Kiffin around these days..lol
    #56 is Reveiz who was playing about as well as any LB in the conference. He is out for the year. He had monster games at UF and played as well as anyone against UCLA. He was undersized but play with a very high motor. For Auburn, I haven't been impressed at all with their LB's Stevens, Bynes, or Freeman. They just don't look like Auburn LB's.

    Also Malzhan didn't come up with the Wildhog. Nutts brother who was on the staff came up with the wildhog. Malzhan was the high school coach in Springdale Ark. He had Mitch Mustain and Damien Williams on his team. Nutt gave him a job to get those kids. But he is a good coach. Malzhan wanted to throw the ball more at Arkansas. The problem was he had Mcfadden and Jones. Needless to say it didn't work out. He had some success in the SEC but against top teams stuggled. Malzhan went to Tulsa and Mustain and Williams went to USC. Malzhan had success at Tulsa. They led the nation in offense i believe. But again. I think in the SEC it is a different animal.

    Also the problem with running the 2 minute drill the whole game is your defense is sucking wind as well. They are going to be on the feild alot more going up against some of the better SEC defense's. I don't think anyone expects to see Auburn put up 500 yards against the Bama's, LSU's, Ol'Miss's. Which is who Auburn needs to beat to win the west. Call me old fashioned but I don't like there style and I would be willing to beat they will strugle at times because of it against better teams and especially on the road.

    Also I do think UT's O looks alot like Oaklands. But I would disagree about talent everywhere except QB. We need more talent at WR and TE plus need more depth on our OL. But the good part about it is there isn't any drafts. We can get whoever will come and there isn't a staff anywhere better at recruiting than the one in knoxville right now. It is only a matter of time.
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