Who promises what?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Admitting it is the first step to getting help [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
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Oh that was a low blow... but I guess the truth hurts sometimes.. and you told the truth [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

[imported_elp6n]

oh that was just teasing.. trying to lighten the place up a bit!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How does one know that the site you posted isn't biased? </div></div>

I know this was not posted to me .. but we do not know.... she likes to talk as much as I do so I thought I would answer 1st. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]

[plantsman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pac-Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How does one know that the site you posted isn't biased? </div></div>

I know this was not posted to me .. but we do not know.... she likes to talk as much as I do so I thought I would answer 1st. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img] </div></div>

My point is this: An individual needs to read both the Bible and Quran for his/herself if they want to make it legitimate. We all interpret things through our biases, preconceived ideas, etc., which may be wrong or incomplete, and this includes the "experts". Just my opinion.

[imported_elp6n]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My point is this: An individual needs to read both the Bible and Quran for his/herself if they want to make it legitimate. We all interpret things through our biases, preconceived ideas, etc., which may be wrong or incomplete, and this includes the "experts". Just my opinion. </div></div>

I can only agree with this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My point is this: An individual needs to read both the Bible and Quran for his/herself if they want to make it legitimate. We all interpret things through our biases, preconceived ideas, etc., which may be wrong or incomplete, and this includes the "experts". Just my opinion. </div></div>

I can only agree with this. </div></div>


Thanks for the compliment about being an expert [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] Just kidding.... I agree that one should read both to see for themselves.

[rrtguy]

Buddhism beliefs:
Founded over 2500 tears ago.. dominant in the far east their emphasis is on religious rituals, worship of deities, and meditation.. the meaning of the name is the system taught by the Buddha... to my knowledge their is no promise of Eternal life. They believe you do not have a soul.Purpose of their life is to escape the cycle of rebirth.Basically they worship Gods or Goddessess.

A little expansion of the Buddhist beliefs: (all this, and more, can be found at: http://www.buddhanet.net

"? Is Buddhism Scientific?

Science is knowledge which can be made into a system, which depends upon seeing and testing facts and stating general natural laws. The core of Buddhism fit into this definition, because the Four Noble truths (see below) can be tested and proven by anyone in fact the Buddha himself asked his followers to test the teaching rather than accept his word as true. Buddhism depends more on understanding than faith.

"? What did the Buddha Teach?

The Buddha taught many things, but the basic concepts in Buddhism can be summed up by the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path.

"? What is the First Noble Truth?

The first truth is that life is suffering i.e., life includes pain, getting old, disease, and ultimately death. We also endure psychological suffering like loneliness frustration, fear, embarrassment, disappointment and anger. This is an irrefutable fact that cannot be denied. It is realistic rather than pessimistic because pessimism is expecting things to be bad. lnstead, Buddhism explains how suffering can be avoided and how we can be truly happy.

"? What is the Second Noble Truth?

The second truth is that suffering is caused by craving and aversion. We will suffer if we expect other people to conform to our expectation, if we want others to like us, if we do not get something we want,etc. In other words, getting what you want does not guarantee happiness. Rather than constantly struggling to get what you want, try to modify your wanting. Wanting deprives us of contentment and happiness. A lifetime of wanting and craving and especially the craving to continue to exist, creates a powerful energy which causes the individual to be born. So craving leads to physical suffering because it causes us to be reborn.

"? What is the Third Noble Truth?

The third truth is that suffering can be overcome and happiness can be attained; that true happiness and contentment are possible. lf we give up useless craving and learn to live each day at a time (not dwelling in the past or the imagined future) then we can become happy and free. We then have more time and energy to help others. This is Nirvana.

"? What is the Fourth Noble Truth?

The fourth truth is that the Noble 8-fold Path is the path which leads to the end of suffering.

"? What is the Noble 8-Fold Path?

In summary, the Noble 8-fold Path is being moral (through what we say, do and our livelihood), focussing the mind on being fully aware of our thoughts and actions, and developing wisdom by understanding the Four Noble Truths and by developing compassion for others.

"? What are the 5 Precepts?

The moral code within Buddhism is the precepts, of which the main five are: not to take the life of anything living, not to take anything not freely given, to abstain from sexual misconduct and sensual overindulgence, to refrain from untrue speech, and to avoid intoxication, that is, losing mindfulness.

"? What is Karma?

Karma is the law that every cause has an effect, i.e., our actions have results. This simple law explains a number of things: inequality in the world, why some are born handicapped and some gifted, why some live only a short life. Karma underlines the importance of all individuals being responsible for their past and present actions. How can we test the karmic effect of our actions? The answer is summed up by looking at (1) the intention behind the action, (2) effects of the action on oneself, and (3) the effects on others.

"? What is Wisdom?

Buddhism teaches that wisdom should be developed with compassion. At one extreme, you could be a goodhearted fool and at the other extreme, you could attain knowledge without any emotion. Buddhism uses the middle path to develop both. The highest wisdom is seeing that in reality, all phenomena are incomplete, impermanent and do no constitute a fixed entity. True wisdom is not simply believing what we are told but instead experiencing and understanding truth and reality. Wisdom requires an open, objective, unbigoted mind. The Buddhist path requires courage, patience, flexibility and intelligence.

"? What is Compassion?

Compassion includes qualities of sharing, readiness to give comfort, sympathy, concern, caring. In Buddhism, we can really understand others, when we can really understand ourselves, through wisdom.

"? How do I Become a Buddhist?

Buddhist teachings can be understood and tested by anyone. Buddhism teaches that the solutions to our problems are within ourselves not outside. The Buddha asked all his followers not to take his word as true, but rather to test the teachings for themselves. ln this way, each person decides for themselves and takes responsibility for their own actions and understanding. This makes Buddhism less of a fixed package of beliefs which is to be accepted in its entirety, and more of a teaching which each person learns and uses in their own way.

[plantsman]

What's your point in posting this? Anyone can post something from a website, but to me, it is imperative that one expresses his/her point.

[rrtguy]

I think my point was that you can't post 2 or three lines about another person's religion or beliefs and then have a valid discussion about it. I think there is more to each of those religions/beliefs than was posted in the original post. Having a friend who is buddhist I contacted him and he sent me to that website. He felt that was probably a pretty good synopsis of the belief system of the buddhist and I was passing it on. I have no opinion on anyone else's religion or belief as long as it doesn't adversely affect me or my family.

[plantsman]

Thanks for the info, but it would behoove each of us to study on our own, and not accept what some particular adherent to a certain dogma would have us read and accept as ultimate truth. That's why I asked.