End of Christianity...

**Biggin** · April 9th, 2009, 03:43 PM

and gotch, ive collected that anywhere from 4500-6000 people were executed in the inquisitions. im not sure on the amount of deaths caused by muslim terrorists in a year, but you are really misleading people if you get your facts,

Originally Posted by Gotch

In fact less people were killed in the entire 356 year history of the Spanish Inquisition than Islamic terrorist kill in any given year

from a website such as this, TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World an obvious anti-muslim website. i could not find accurate numbers on those killed every year by muslim terrorists.

**Counts** · April 9th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

That is simply not true, whatsoever. I have no faith, because I believe in science, and the human body, and the natural world. Thats horseshit what you said, its the typical christian anti-atheist propoganda.

IMHO you can not put EVERYONE into one neat box I DO agree that many do not want religion becouse it would mean that they would need to answer to a higher power than themself......2nd your quote that since you belive in science you have no faith (religion?) IMHO that is anti-religion propoganda since I FULLY belive in science AND God. Too many on both sides think that they know more than they do about the subject (I know that there is a heck of alot I do not know and probably as much more I don't even know I don't know LOL)

I AM interested in knowing why you think that understanding science excludes you from haveing faith?

**Biggin** · April 9th, 2009, 04:31 PM

because i choose to believe that the earth has evolved from amoeba's and monkeys, instead of a creation theory.

its not understanding science that makes me have no faith, its like my faith is in science, and science is based on factual evidence.

**Biggin** · April 9th, 2009, 04:39 PM

and its not meant to be anti-religion propoganda, i was just stating what I but my belief into.

**1inStripes** · April 9th, 2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

because i choose to believe that the earth has evolved from amoeba's and monkeys, instead of a creation theory.

its not understanding science that makes me have no faith, its like my faith is in science, and science is based on factual evidence.

The problem with believe in science is that the science of evolution is not factual, but actual theory.

**Biggin** · April 9th, 2009, 04:48 PM

thats why i didnt say facts, i said it had some factual evidence, and it is just a theory, like any other belief on how this world came to be.

**Gotch** · April 9th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

and gotch, ive collected that anywhere from 4500-6000 people were executed in the inquisitions. im not sure on the amount of deaths caused by muslim terrorists in a year, but you are really misleading people if you get your facts, from a website such as this, TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World an obvious anti-muslim website. i could not find accurate numbers on those killed every year by muslim terrorists.

Not sure why you assume I got info for that site? I am familiar with the site, but no, that's not where it came from. In fact most came from memory. I've debated this in extreme depth on another forum.

Your numbers are still to high. More like 3,000 to 5,000 max.

This has been a slow year for Islamic terrorists, but they are still doing fairly good business. I haven't checked the numbers since the first week of March (last time I was debating the issue) but at that time (about 10 weeks into the year) there were 1,034 confirmed deaths due to Islamic terror. Get out the old casio and you'll see that I am correct.

**Gotch** · April 9th, 2009, 05:11 PM

^ In fact with my typo's misspellings and poor grammar it should be apparent that my info is not purely "web" gathered.

**Biggin** · April 9th, 2009, 05:15 PM

Ill post links to what Ive posted, ive even seen some sites (grim amusements / June 17, 2004 / the inquisition's death count) put it at somewhere near 25k, which i dont believe, but Im pretty sure the standard is around 5K, which is almost exactly what your deaths from islamic terror would average out to with the numbers given (10 weeks x 5), 1000 x 5.

this site seems pretty reliable and it said 6000 was a good estimate.
How many people were actually killed during the Inquisition?

and im curious to know why you visit a racist, stereotypical site like that? its like viewing a KKK page. i never pegged you as much of a racist.

and if its not info that has been published, im sorry to sound rude, but how can i believe anything when you have no facts? im supposed to just say, you are right because you are smart? im sorry, but i like getting information i can double check at different places.

and that quote i posted of yours earlier, came directly off that anti muslim website.

**Gotch** · April 9th, 2009, 05:24 PM

"In fact less people were killed in the entire 356 year history of the Spanish Inquisition than Islamic terrorist kill in any given year" ?

I assure you I posted that in my own words, and without even looking at a source.

Is it word for word?

I don't consider that site racist btw, in fact it's not. It is radical, but not racist. Huge difference. Cannot by any means be compared to a truly ractist group. Far too easy to simply dismiss someone with a different point of view by simply calling them a ractist. Weak arguement.