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Jameson Witty and Anthony Janow are charged with one felony count of grand theft of personal property and misdemeanor counts.
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Two men who allegedly stole a piece of Paul Walker's wrecked Porsche Carrera GT have been officially charged. Prosecutors announced on Monday, December 9 that the two men, 18-year-old Jameson Witty and 25-year-old Anthony Janow, were charged with one felony count of grand theft of personal property.
In addition to the felony charge, the Los Angeles County district attorney's office said that Witty and Janow were charged with misdemeanor counts of destroying evidence and resisting, obstructing and delaying a peace officer. If convicted, the two will spend up to 4 years and 6 months in jail.
The twosome were accused of stealing a piece of the wrecked car's rooftop following the tragic accident which killed the "Fast and Furious" star and his friend Roger Rodas on November 30. The pair allegedly took the roof panel when a tow truck carrying the car stopped at red light. The truck's driver reported the theft to the authorities and they found it at a home in Canyon Country.
An Instagram user who goes by @jamesonwhitty posted a photo of the car's part on the photo-sharing site. The user later posted a note to apologize. "And for everyone to say how I should kill myself or disappear is immature and childish. This is not a message to try and get me off the hook, I am taking full responsibility for the manner of my actions," he captioned the post.
Read more: Men Accused of Stealing Paul Walker's Car Roof Charged With Felony Grand Theft
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gray1
• 4 hours ago
R.I.P
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Juni Matz
• 20 hours ago
This crash is some bullshit, cars dont explode like bombs cause of a 35mph crash.. fuck that..
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YetiBoy
• a day ago
He still owes us a 10 second car...
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Guest
• 2 days ago
cracker
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Guest
• 2 days ago
wow, im glad that black people isn't stupid like some white people... i looked under Nelson Mandela video and people is using the N word every other post... us crackers can learn a lot from other people... i hate being a stupid cracker #RIPCracker
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Guest
• 2 days ago
wow,
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ch1ckm4gn3t
• 2 days ago
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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wolf
• 3 days ago
im sure theres a better view of this that they not putting out.
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Osama Bin Laden
• 4 days ago
Illuminati/Government is real they knew Paul walker knew about some dirty money in the Typhon Haiyan charity and he was looking into expose it. They either remote controlled the car Paul walker and Roger Rodas were in and crashed it at a high speed to kill them or they fucked their brakes up to malfunction after a certain speed. look it up they have the technology now to do this to any car.
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damn porchmonkeys Osama Bin Laden
• 3 days ago
if u believe in the illuminati ur a dumb nigger
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jc Osama Bin Laden
• 4 days ago
lmao you'd you believe your mom has a 9" penis if you read it on the internet....
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CoCo Melo
• 5 days ago
the comments in here are wild lmao
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Brian Antonia
• 5 days ago
man idc about what the fuck happened the bottom line is He is Gone no more fast and furious i hope they end it in a proper note with fast 7 fuck everybody else if this what a plot who ever did it will burn in hell when they die. REST IN PEACE PAUL WALKER!
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StayFaded909 <3
• 5 days ago
Fuck no more fast and furious 7!
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Brian Antonia StayFaded909 <3
• 5 days ago
they allready made it so it still coming out next year
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StayFaded909 <3 Brian Antonia
• 4 days ago
I heard on the news they just canceled everything and stoped filming it
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SirFuckYurBitch
• 5 days ago
I just don't understand how you can spend that much money on a car and it blows up. Regular cars don't even do that shit tf kind of gas that car running on.
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Komshiya SirFuckYurBitch
• 4 days ago
race fuel most likely
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Rickey Prince
• 5 days ago
Now I'm not saying it was a sacrifice or anything but if you look at the details, something definitely doesn't add up. Friends of Paul said they had gotten a call, from who they never said, that Paul was in an accident but who exactly called them because they also said that they made it to the scene before the fire department and ambulance. One of the friends also stated that they tried to extinguish the fire on Paul but never saw the driver which I find hard to believe myself. There's no way you saw Paul but couldn't see the other guy, especially if you're trying to extinguish the fire so something isn't adding up but it's just my opinion. RIP Paul Walker..
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Aspen Look AKA God's Valentine
• 5 days ago
It was Kanye West's fault
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tomt45 Aspen Look AKA God's Valentine
• 24 minutes ago
kanye or obama ...
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ladiesman2 Aspen Look AKA God's Valentine
• 5 days ago
you don't have the answers
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Osama Bin Laden ladiesman2
• 4 days ago
i do.
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fenderbass
• 5 days ago
That car was blown up.The wreckage doesn't look like it was in an accident at all.The car was demolished by a bomb.It was a sacrifice.There haven't been one in a while.So he was up next.Thats all.
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Osama Bin Laden fenderbass
• 4 days ago
i am the first one to come up with this theory you dick riders
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fenderbass Osama Bin Laden
• 4 days ago
AND THE PROBLEM IS??? ANYONE WITH EYES CAN SEE THATS SOME SORT OF TRICK MEDIA BULLSHIT.GOOD OBSERVATION.
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Diggy fenderbass
• 5 days ago
please stfu
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CREW fenderbass
• 5 days ago
I REALLY CANT GET OVER HOW FUCKING DUMB YOU ARE. OBVIOUSLY THE CAR WAS "BLOWN UP" THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET IN A BAD WRECK. JESUS CHRIST I HOPE YOU GO BACK TO THE THIRD GRADE AND LEARN SOMETHING
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ladiesman2 CREW
• 5 days ago
and you're still typing......
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CREW fenderbass
• 5 days ago
BITCH DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK FUELS CARS? YEAH ITS CALLED GAS, THERE'S A BIG TANK OF IT SITTING BEHIND YOU WHENEVER YOU GET IN THE CAR. FIRE + GAS = EXPLOSION. YOU'RE A DUMB IGNORANT FUCK. HOLY SHIT. PLEASE WEAR A CONDOM AND NEVER REPRODUCE. YOUR KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS PHYSICALLY HURTS ME.
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ReN ' CREW
• a day ago
3 days later ...
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ladiesman2 CREW
• 5 days ago
and you're stiilll typing....
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CREW CREW
• 5 days ago
RIP PAUL WALKER
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ladiesman2 CREW
• 5 days ago
still typing....
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brickcity973
• 5 days ago
car was on fire before it hit the pole take a good look
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STEVIE WONDER
• 6 days ago
so they can disable the comments on that shitty self cut system but they cant do it to respect or protect paul walker from trolls???
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Ryan Mcintosh
• 6 days ago
The reason why this saddens me, is the fact that his dumb ass friend behind the wheel and was the one that took his paul's life. Had paul walker been driving, this would be a different story, despite of his acting as a racer, what many don't know is that paul walker really knew how to drive in real life. Check him out on you tube. R.I.P to a great actor!!!
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SPINMASTER Ryan Mcintosh
• 5 days ago
Fuck the dumb shit. When its your time to dance with the grim Reaper..YOU SHALL DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ryan Mcintosh SPINMASTER
• 5 days ago
Naw!! Unless your old its nobodys time to go!!Thats frog shit!!
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Roberto Perez Ryan Mcintosh
• 5 days ago
youre a moron. Yes Paul was a great driver in real life, the driver though? Roger Rodas was the owner of Always Evolving, a racing shop in Los Angeles. He was also captain of its racing team which included Paul Walker and was involved n more than 10 grand prix races. Both were professional drivers idiot..
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Ryan Mcintosh Roberto Perez
• 5 days ago
They drover cars but your mom drives my dick really well!! She a pro!!
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........... Ryan Mcintosh
• 5 days ago
You aint mad though LMAO
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Piri Sandman
• 6 days ago
2 fast 2 furious
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Guest
• 6 days ago
Man. Paul Walker was just one of those cool guys. Rest in peace Paul. And to the driver.
"If one day the speed kills me, do not cry because I was smiling." - Paul Walker
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generous individual
• 6 days ago
respect the dead people! a simple RIP wont hurt!
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ozmorphus
• 6 days ago
Dude was still alive as he burned.
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Cristian Rafael Aguilar
• 6 days ago
How fudked up is it ppl didn't stop till they realized who it was
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HIGH_LIFE
• 6 days ago
damn that's crazy
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Micadelic8
• 6 days ago
Dam how can you keep driving without checking if everyone is ok?
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dripin
• 6 days ago
still waiting for a good angle
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ILUVHIPHOP
• 6 days ago
R.I.P. PAUL WALKER
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Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
According to ABC news, a reliable eyewitness in the area reported that Walker "wasn't driving aggressively, and was 'acting' very responsibly behind the wheel"... Soooo, I guess this is proof that Paul Walker can't act for SHIT! You might even say that "Paul Walker can't act to save his life!" Too soon? Anybody else got any good ones?
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TWD519 Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
i heard they found out he had dandruff from the crash. it says they found his head and shoulders in the dashboard
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Lavoris Cooper Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
DUMBASS HE WASNT EVEN DRIVING
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SPINMASTER Lavoris Cooper
• 5 days ago
So? My nephew robbed a bank. He was driving the getaway car. The Cops shot him deader than a mutherfuclin doorknob babygirl!! What your involvement got to do with it? DEAD IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!
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Brian Chappell Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
idiot
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Brian Chappell Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
walker wasnt driving dummy. he was the passenger
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Xaynab Elhassane-Boutchiche Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
Paul Walker wasn't even driving...he was the passenger.
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dripin Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
thats fucked up... but it was a lil funny,
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Thisjunior2 Jaymac68
• 6 days ago
Paul walker wasn't the driver, you stupid fuck
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David Tdk Luna
• 6 days ago
i think its crazy how brian died in family guy and Paul Walker aka (brian o conor) from fast in the furious died as well in a car accident
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Lee David Tdk Luna
• 6 days ago
Illuminati bro
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Nasir Uddin David Tdk Luna
• 6 days ago
lol your point
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minenameno Nasir Uddin
• 6 days ago
You are soo sarcasitic
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DGettn2DaMoNeY
• 6 days ago
Those other cars jus rode on by lik nothn happened what type of shit is that?
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tomt45 DGettn2DaMoNeY
• 7 minutes ago
l.a. sh*t.
worse in miami ...
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EntofRacing DGettn2DaMoNeY
• 5 days ago
because they have equipment in their cars to battle a 2000 degree inferno..
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DGettn2DaMoNeY EntofRacing
• 4 days ago
so u would ride by a burning car as well?
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godstomper
• 6 days ago
so whens the next fast and furious movie coming out?
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tomt45 godstomper
• 6 minutes ago
just did ...
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jtsmith1
• 6 days ago
he faked his death
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minenameno jtsmith1
• 6 days ago
I hope he did
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IG: Leco DaDon
• 6 days ago
I think one of the other two cars that kept going may have had sumn 2 do with the crash....
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Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
here what i don't get people say they were driving no he was driving Rodger was driving he crashed the car not Paul
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TITAN-UP_Pro
• 7 days ago
DAYUM!!!
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IINiyaaLovee
• 7 days ago
Damn yo this is still so shocking to me , R.I.P Paul Walker.
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Fraser Reilly IINiyaaLovee
• 6 days ago
same day train derailed in NY killing 4, 63 injured..shocking?
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Alana Martin IINiyaaLovee
• 7 days ago
race in peace
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caseyMurawski
• 7 days ago
i cant see shit
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SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
They got what they had comin. Drivin like Bats outta hell!!! I bet them Mofo's were in that car..hittin the pipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alice Walker SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
He died...on the way to a charity event...you douche
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SPINMASTER Alice Walker
• 5 days ago
Sho you right. But DIE..he did baby girl!! And when its yo time..you gonna go too. Talkin bout that midnight rambler? Everybody got to gooooo!!!!!!!!!!! So keep plenty of sunshine on your face. Laugh often..and burn one down..when you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And I ain't no douche. I will not fuck you on your period. You can just...blow baby...BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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White America SPINMASTER
• 2 days ago
The thirst of this nigger is crazy... Some one get him a drink... Fuck!
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Alana Martin SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
paul walker just died nobody has time for that shit
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
You read it you bitch ass mutherfucker. So you evidently had time!!!!!
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Alana Martin SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
no they were not if anyone's hitting the pipe it 's you or it could have been Rodger whatever he's name was
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
That's why I'm alive. I stay home and hit my pipe!!!!!!!!!!!
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ReN '
• 7 days ago
maybe its just me but if you look little close on the right, it looked like a drone or something went went fast down. like if it was struck
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Genius Idiot
• 7 days ago
He's drifting in heaven right now
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Alana Martin Genius Idiot
• 7 days ago
i don't even think he is dead like how the fuck did those Asians record that shit like idk
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Manes Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
he's dead
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Alana Martin Manes
• 7 days ago
nah
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SPINMASTER Manes
• 7 days ago
Deader than a motherfuckin door knob!!!!!!!!!!
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Jaymac68 SPINMASTER
• 6 days ago
Are doorknobs dead? So, that means that they were alive at some point... That is some trippy shit.
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Jim Pickens SPINMASTER
• 6 days ago
h4h4h4h4 you have lil waynes rapping skills pal
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Guest SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
no he's not
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Merman123
• 7 days ago
Alright this shit is getting old already. This death was just as predictable as a crackhead dying of drug abuse. He said it himself he once hit 185MPH on the freeway. It was just a matter of time.
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Alana Martin Merman123
• 7 days ago
and maybe if paul was driving this would have never happen
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Ryan Mcintosh Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
exactly, but im still confused cuz spanish new says he was driving.
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
Yes it would have. When its your time to go..You gotta go!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alana Martin SPINMASTER
• 7 days ago
that was harsh
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
Harsh but truer than a motherfucker!! Nobody escapes the Grim Reaper baby!!! When its your time..you going. Shouting or peaceful, you still going.You don't remember being born and you sure as hell won't remember dying. SOoooo keep some MF sunshine on you face and plenty of it!!!! burn one down, party, and smile. You know not the MF time baby!!!!!!!!!
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Alana Martin Merman123
• 7 days ago
he wasn't driving dumbass
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
SO? He still deader than a MOFO right?
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Merman123 Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
Don't be an idiot. He was a fourty year old man. He knew what he was doing even if he wasn't driving.
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landonve Merman123
• 6 days ago
That didn't even make sense
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Alana Martin Merman123
• 7 days ago
and you blame it on him for what
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Merman123 Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
So what you propose is that , they were both in the car, driver out of the blue decides he should speed, and that of course, Paul was frightened to death and was begging him to stop ? I really doubt that's how it played out.
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Alana Martin Merman123
• 7 days ago
but how are you going to blame it on the passenger his foot was not on the pedal so you can't blame him
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Merman123 Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
You have to take his passion for that adrenaline into consideration. It's not an ordinary person were taking about here. He had a history with speed. Shit, it worries me that people like you could be called for jury duty.
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kdd Merman123
• 6 days ago
lol....word NO LOGIC at all.....
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Alana Martin Merman123
• 7 days ago
that's probably what happen
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EntofRacing Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
ALANA I TOLD YOU ALREADY, YOU CONTRIBUTE SHIT.
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
i think Rodger was crazy and killed paul and himself like the guy looked crazy
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EntofRacing Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
racial profiling right there.
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
a lot of celebrity's fake there death but why him why would he want to to have people think he's dead
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Bernard Greenhalgh
• 7 days ago
alana gotta stfu, im tryna look at funny ass comments and you took the whole shit up, people die like this everyday and noone cares
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Alana Martin Bernard Greenhalgh
• 6 days ago
don't get mad cause your dusty crusty ass never got a role in a movie
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Alana Martin Bernard Greenhalgh
• 6 days ago
go fuck yourself
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
I will..If you will do me first!!!!!!!!!!!!
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THATdoodNAHmean Bernard Greenhalgh
• 6 days ago
That bitch is off her meds. She wont shut the fuck up
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Alana Martin THATdoodNAHmean
• 6 days ago
your a troll
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EntofRacing Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
you're*
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
you guys are meanest people ever i can't comment without getting a rotting responds
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EntofRacing Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
most mean* rotten response*
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
losing my mind i can't believe he's gone
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
Believe it sweetcakes. He ain't comin back. There ain't no WALKIN DEAD nowhere but on the ignorant box (TV)
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Knowitall Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
what the fuck is happeneing, i cant believe it either its fucked up
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
might have to kill myself for this
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Guest Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
I am too, sad about his death. He was an awesome human being. But, can you just shut the fuck up and let him rest in peace?
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kiko Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
You wanna kill your self for this ? Shit you could die paul wouldn't give a fuck bout you. I'm just saying do...
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SPINMASTER kiko
• 5 days ago
WORD UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alana Martin kiko
• 7 days ago
yeah he would
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kiko Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
At least that's what you think.
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Alana Martin kiko
• 7 days ago
no i know
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Alana Martin
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i can't believe this i just can't
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
all i have to say is i wish it was me instead of Paul
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 5 days ago
Then go dumb ass bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!
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EntofRacing Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
same
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SPINMASTER EntofRacing
• 5 days ago
you to!! Lets make it a double!!!
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EntofRacing SPINMASTER
• 5 days ago
I was agreeing with Alana that it should have been her.
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That_Nikka_WaltJR
• 7 days ago
the nigga was driving to damn fast... take a regular ass car and drive over 80 mph the steering control becomes so damn sensitive one wrong jerk yo ass will wreck the fuck out
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Alana Martin That_Nikka_WaltJR
• 7 days ago
please take that shit somewhere else
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That_Nikka_WaltJR
• 7 days ago
this aint CAPTURE shit but some got damn pollution!!!!!
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Alana Martin
• 7 days ago
i don't see how they hit a pole
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SPINMASTER Alana Martin
• 6 days ago
Hell, I bet they didn't SEE it either!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nena2Times
• 7 days ago
A simple RIP Paul Walker will do, Worldstar. Geez.
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Im A Guest Bitch
• 7 days ago
Damn a lot of you mothafuckas suffer from diarrhea of the mouth. A bunch of insensitive fucktards. How about a simple R.I.P Paul or even damn thats fucked up! But no he gets "Hottest guy not alive" or "death to all crackers, im happy he is dead" If this shit was one of your family members your wouldn't be all smiles. and then we have the conspiracy theory ass niggas who can't let it be a simple car crash from a nigga speeding and loosing control which happens every day in the U.S of fucking A.. NO it has to be the demonic Illuminati! Man get ya'll shit together! read a fucking book, HOW NOT TO BE A DUMMY...... FOR DUMMIES! SHIT!!
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SPINMASTER Im A Guest Bitch
• 6 days ago
Fuck you Pussy!!!!!!!!!!! The MF is dead ok!!! His death is no more important than joe shit the rag man who died under the bridge last night. SO CUT IT OUT AND KNOCK IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!! Just because he made a few movies that mean he is MF GOD? Everybody got to die..sometime. MoFo should have asked his homeboy to slow the fuck down,He got his wish. Driving fast cars..right into Glory..or hell !!!!! You pick'em!!!! Fuck all that..tear in my beer bullshit!!!
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Fuckyolife100
• 7 days ago
Was going to get the Porsche, but fuck that shit. Them bitches go boom. Sales goin down
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On Sept. 26, 2011, Sheriff Lee Baca went on "Good Day L.A." and blasted the FBI for smuggling a cell phone to an informant in one of his jails. "It's illegal," he said. "I think I need to know what the reason is, and quite frankly it's unacceptable regardless."
The FBI had been ignoring the sheriff's inquiries. So that same day, two of Baca's sergeants visited FBI Special Agent Leah Marx at her home. She was involved in the jailhouse investigation, and the sergeants wanted to get some information from her. While they were at Marx's home, the sergeants allegedly threatened to arrest her.
That confrontation is at the heart of an federal case unsealed Monday by the U.S. Attorney's Office.
The two sergeants -- Scott Craig and Maricella Long -- were themselves arrested Monday and indicted on charges of obstruction, conspiracy and lying to a federal agent. If convicted, they could face up to 20 years in federal prison.
Another 16 deputies were also charged with crimes ranging from civil rights violations for jailhouse beatings to mortgage fraud.
The key person who was not charged is Lee Baca. In fact, no one on Baca's executive staff -- not then-Undersheriff Paul Tanaka, and indeed no one with a rank higher than lieutenant -- was charged with a crime. From reading the indictments, it would appear that the misconduct was confined to low-level employees who went rogue.
And yet, at least in the obstruction case, that seems hard to square with Baca's forceful and public demand for answers from the FBI in the wake of the discovery of the jailhouse informant. It's hard to imagine that Baca and his executive team would have been completely unaware of what his deputies were doing in pursuit of that goal.
"When you're going to go to an FBI agent's home, that's unusual," said Brian Moriguchi, president of the Professional Peace Officers Association, the union which is providing attorneys for some of the defendants. "That would require authorization from higher up, or at least knowledge from higher up."
At a press conference on Monday afternoon, Baca declined to go into any detail about what he knew or when he knew it.
"All this is the result of an investigative process, and today they've made an announcement, and I can't comment on what their facts are," he said.
Tanaka was forced to retire earlier this year, and is now running against Baca for sheriff. He declined through his campaign spokeswoman to comment Monday. But in an April interview with the L.A. Times, Tanaka said that when the informant, Anthony Brown, was discovered, Baca gave strict orders to get to the bottom of the FBI's investigation.
"I want the inmate interviewed. I don't want him leaving our custody. I want the phone, all of the information removed from it and I don't want the phone to go anywhere," Tanaka quoted Baca as saying.
In implementing that order, Tanaka said that he and his colleagues had to be very careful to avoid "cross[ing] the line of doing anything wrong."
Yet now seven underlings have been charged with federal crimes arising from that incident. Lt. Gregory Thompson and three deputies -- Gerard Smith, Mickey Manzo and James Sexton -- are accused of conspiring to move Brown to another facility and rebook him under fake names, in order to prevent the FBI from contacting him.
Lt. Stephen Leavins was also charged with conspiracy and obstruction of justice for, among other things, going to court in an unsuccessful attempt to compel the FBI to disclose information about its investigation. Leavins, who was with the sheriff's internal investigations bureau, also supervised Craig and Long -- the two sergeants who went to the FBI agent's house.
Thompson, Smith, Manzo, Sexton and Leavins each face up to 15 years in prison. Unlike with Baca, the county is not paying for their defense attorneys. Those costs will be borne by either their union or by themselves.
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According to Bob Olmsted, the retired commander now running against Baca and Tanaka, the defendants in the obstruction case would not have had the authority to act on their own.
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I know I may sound rude this time again. But in defending Bruckner (or correcting any misconception), I am like a medieval clergy, willing to be burnt on fire.
There was an old friend, who studied string for some years and developed deep love of Beethoven?s string quartets. He told me op.132 was his favorite and he had listened to it for a few hundreds times. One day, by chance, I said the slow movement was so pious from a patient?s inner voice. He was so suprised and could not believed what I heard. He told me it could not be true because he never felt it that way. Fortunately, I did not have to argue too much. I just told him that he forgot to read the expression note of the 3rd movement? (thx Lord, I never had to read that to understand the Heiliger Music God)
Here I have huge trouble with ?quiet strength? regarding the 4th movement. If you read, it says Bewegt nitch zu schnell, moving but not too fast. From the beginning to end, it was approaching, closer and closer. ?it? means that ?massive thing?. In some long phrases, Bruckner re-depicted the country scene and night serenade. Those usually ended with the massive overwelming sound. so, quiet strength? Perhaps it is universally true for any spiritual strength (then really nothing was said).
I do have a problem with the program notes in general. They talk about tonality (bC to bB), but that is repeating what is printed in the score. Literally, it is like nothing was said by the writer. I think largely it was due to the difficulty of understanding music.
Often, I get angery when someone use superficial prejudice to debase the great genius Wagner. Don?t you know that the 3rd movement must have been inspired by Tristan und Isolde? I don?t read as much as other viewers here. Perhaps some authors did mention this.
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