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March 6th, 2002, 09:20 PM
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ho-HO!! i was right.... *HUGE massive giant SPOILERS ahead!!*
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Mystique was Surge! nifty. why would Surge/Mystique & co. just kill Sunpyre like that tho? hmmm.. my first though was that must have been to set Abyss free, cept they didn't... and he witnessed the whole thing. that's got me a touch confused... but Mystique is in charge of A.R.M and is taking over the X-Corps... let the mayhem ensue!
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March 7th, 2002, 03:23 AM
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Okay re-read, where did it say Surge was Mystique???????
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March 7th, 2002, 05:00 AM
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well it didn't SAY..... it was very very stongly implied tho. the clues, in order of appearance:
-Mystique escaped
-Surge's 'restraining pack' veeery suspicious. i think it *generates* electricity
-Wwolverine's not in this arc. the only character that could sniff her out
-Surge is very chummy with Blob and Avalanche, Mystiques msot usual accomplices
-Surge kills some A.R.M guys *including* the leader, very much in Mystique's style
up till now it just leads to suspicion... but then...
- the leader of A.R.M is suddenly alive again claiming to have killed Surge, his proof not a body but his restrainer pack.
-Sunpyre is murdered - the culprits? some shadowy figures - one of which is wielding some electrical energy
- in Mastermind's head, Chamber overhears a conversation with a clearly female character talking about terrorism, assasination etc. Mystiques thing. she obviously also had a past with Banshee, enough that she knows his personality very well. then she makes to atack Chamber, then we cut to reality where he is infact being attacked by....
- Surge, restraining pack and all, miraculously alive again. with the Blob and Avalanche in tow, ready to tear the X-Corps apart from the inside. starting off by frying Chamber.
my conclusion - the miraculous rising from the dead of both the leader of ARM and Surge can only be the work of a shapeshifter. one who happens to share Mystiques style of terrorism of late, and is rather chummy with the Blob and Avalanche, coincidentaly, it appears this person is female.... if that does not scream Mystique....
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March 7th, 2002, 05:33 AM
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They killed Chamber? Or is "frying" a non-fatal kinda thing for him?
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March 7th, 2002, 05:50 AM
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we don't actually know yet... he was laying on the ground with Surge standing over him last panel of the book.
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March 8th, 2002, 02:45 AM
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Nocturne:
Well if you are right, that is some amazing deduction. It would be nice to see Mys return to Uncanny. Man right when Casey is flexing his muscles, he is leaving..... Though I still don't forgive him too much for Poptopia, or that Wolv/Phoenix moment. But it has dramatically improved.
Now if we can just get interaction between her and Kurt hmmmm........
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March 9th, 2002, 02:20 AM
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Regarding the collar...the answer can be found in Wolverine #173, page 1, panel 4...and I quote Kurt himself...
"Ah, I am afraid you've come to the wrong man, mein freund - my days as a man of the cloth are behind me." Weird thing is...he's still wearing it...
Then he gets knocked out and thrown in the East River. Why does he keep getting thrown in large bodies of water? Can't be good for the fur...
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March 10th, 2002, 05:16 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BAMFCentral:
Nocturne:
Well if you are right, that is some amazing deduction. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'd like to second that! Going back and re-reading it after taking into account NOCTURNE's clues makes it seem very likely.
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Now if we can just get interaction between her and Kurt hmmmm........
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DITTO BC! It's only been about what....20 YEARS or so (when Claremont 1st hinted that there was a connection between the two) that X-fans have been waiting for some serious and meaningful interaction between MYSTIQUE and NIGHTCRAWLER. And i'm talking about something more than the mediocre X-MEN: Unlimited #4!
I'd be one heck of a happy camper if Casey was the X-writer to finally give us some juicy NIGHTCRAWLER/MYSTIQUE stuff!
P.S. Greetings and Salutations NADIREYA!
BAMF!
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March 11th, 2002, 02:52 AM
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Thank you Bamf...
I've been a 'Crawler groupie for about 12 years (man...has it been that long?), when I first got into comics...he was in Excalibur at the time...and I just thought he looked so amazingly cool...and he was such a sweetie!
I never thought to check for fellow groupies on the 'net until recently. X-Men Evolution has just hit Cartoon Network here Down Under (sucks that they only have series one)...and I have to admit I liked THAT version better than the priest-in-training in the comics (but that's over with now by the looks of it...), and I was sorta reminded of why I came to like the character in the first place...
Which brought me here...
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March 11th, 2002, 03:08 AM
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Hello there, Nandireya! You've come to the right place! Enjoy!
By the way, didn't Austen say that a "can of worms" was going to be opened up for Kurt and his 'family relations', or is my mind flip-flopping and confusing names?
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