Paradise X No. 3

[Slartibartfast]

Lookie what I found.
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0206/21/pc.htm

It's Kurtlasco on the cover of Paradise X 3! Well, his profile anyway. I guess I'll bite the bullet and get it. He's not in any of the other preview pages.

[Knight_Crawler]

Well Kurt being Belasco certainly gives new meaning to the phrase "own worst enemy"...in more ways than one. Although Cockrum is none to happy about the Kurtlasco story.

[BlueJubatus]

YAY!
I have been looking forward to this one all month! Everybody should get it! The whole series is wonderful and the added bonus of mabey some Kurt angst in this issue is a nice perk. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Garble]

I liked Earth X when it first came out, even though parts of it were silly. Now it's just rediculous.

There was one issue where Bruce Banner basically tells Cyclops "The X-Men were full of shit, you know. I mean all you guys ever did was just self-serving pro-mutant propaganda." And Cyclops was actually like "Gee, I never thought of it that way!" I mean has this guy NEVER read X-Men???

Then Kurt's been treated with this ludecrous irony-for-irony's sake treatment. Af first he's stated as having been turned "normal" by the virus (wich didn't effect ANY other mutant, btw) and then killed by an angry mob of mutants.
Now the whole Belasco mess is "Ahah! The demonic looking guy turned priest is now a human turned devil!!!" Bleah!

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah, I know Dave Cockrum hates it. He seems to hate just about everything that's been done to Kurt since he left X-Men though. Not to badmouth Cockrum, but he seems very, very ... bitter.

Blue- I pick up that book every now and then and still never understand it! I'm glad there's somebody here now who knows something about Earth X. You can give the rest of us a lesson.

:^D

[BlueJubatus]

Slarti- Love too, just tell me what you want to know-kinda complex story going on, lotsa people coming back form the dead, and not dying and killing off death and yea, i can see how its confusing [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Cant really blame cockrum tho. Wish theyed hire him back [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Garble]

Cockrum has a very unique perspective. He didn't just design Nightcrawler's appearance for Marvel. He created the entire character from his head. And what's more, he basically made the character with his own personality.

To everyone else on the planet, seeing someone do a weird twist or re-development of Nightcrawler could be fun and new. To Dave, it's almost a personal insult. To Dave, Nightcrawler should be Nightcrawler, there's no reason to make him into someone else.

I understand that all characters change and get re-interpreted. But I also empathize with Dave.

[BamfKat]

Sorry, but I never can buy the whole Kurt is Belasco line. The entire idea that in loosing an arm or by catching a virus he becomes a normal human is so lame; it's as if to say because I caught a cold all my kids will be born with colds. Losing a limb does not alter your genetic structure in ANY way no other mutant is so effected by the virus...

Sorry,but what a load of $h!+! [img]mad.gif[/img]
This is non-logic that pisses me off about this and other Marvel editorial descisions. They accually let this stuff see print?

BamfKat...
who wanders off ranting to him self about the nonsense that Marvel cranks out...

<font color="#2c557f" size="1">[ June 23, 2002 11:53 AM: Message edited by: BamfKat ]</font>

[BAMFCentral]

Garble: Which issue are you refering to???? That incident doesn't come immediately to mind. i will look it up.


BamfKat: There was a bit more to his change into Belasco than just the arm. Remember Mephisto was involved.


All in all the writers of the series have done a good job of interpreting the Marvel universe and making it tie all together. Though everyone will object to a few of their choices, still good all around. And definately a series I would recommend in Graphic Novel format. Easier to follow if you can read several of the issues back to back. Because at times it is like reading a history book rather than a comic.

Originally, I belive this was suppose to be the Kingdom Come version for Marvel. But with new the last tale stories soon to be written by other writers, this one is just another What if story line, which some fans have considered it for awhile. I think at X-Fan they had an article where the writer even referred to it to a more of a what if story line.

[BamfKat]

It is not that he became Belasco, it is how he lost his powers in the first place. It is the inherent illogic of how the genetics work. It is like saying Michael Jordan is tall cuz his dad always reached for the cookies on the top shelf.

Buy it and enjoy it if you like. My only statment is that geneticly and physiologicly it makes no sense within the concepts of Marvelverse.