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[GrizzlyAdams]

Heyyup

I am doing an expermiment in media presentation.

I wish to record some sports action, and put it out a a short vid.

I also want to take stills from the action, and use it in a book type document

I want to further use stills and create an animated gif for a web shite

and finally, I want to simplify/rotscrote the stills to make a clean animation.

I wondering weather it would be better to shoot on film or DV.

From playing around, Im finding Ive got too much blur within the DV footage to make use of the material for anything else but the vid output.

I have almost zero knowledge on film media.
so to do it on film, im spending cash to get kit, film stock, development, telecine ?, camera man, sound etc, lighting.

now as an experminent it might be around 3 minutes of completed footage ( end to end ), but with dv i could record hours n hours cause its cheap, but with film, minutes of film are shed loads of feet - and thus much more expensive.

Also, editing the film is a new approach - non linear is easy peasy - but slice n dice the film footage - methinks im looking at more dosh.

so the q is , which is best - film and pay OR get a better DV camera......etc

did I miss anything ?

yes I know the blur is down to DV being to f'ng slow, and id still get blur if the film stock is too slow ( asa rating ? )

I do understand 35mm photography principles.

Come back chance & gen. dont let the midgets with the mouths get in the way.

cheers



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Grizz:

I dont care who wins an Oscar until I do

[eddie]

to be honest it sounds to me like you would be better off buying a better digital video camera.

If your final format is electronic then why bother with all the hassle of film transfers?

Although a Fast film stock will solve this problem.

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[steven_craig]

id do some reaserch into High Definition Cameras - the quality that you get from them is amazing and it might, just might, solve the problem of motion blur... also make sure your action / subject is well lit with any format you use and thus reducing motion blur, i do hope you are not

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[Mods]

DV camera, Adobe Premiere & Paint Shop Pro Animator will sort your problems all out.

Mods

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Mark "Mods" Lovegrove
Anarchy Pictures

[GrizzlyAdams]

Of course, a better camera.... now If I sell the car....I can have a HD dv camera or rather a Bit of one ( arnt they 70,000 pounds )

a better dv camera - id rather not part with 2,500 for a canon 3ccd jobbie on the off chance it will work - maybe i should rent one, cut some footage , capture it. should be able to do this - about ?80 a day for the canon beastie )

how does a dv, premiere and paint shop animator help

i have these ( d8 IS dv on a Hi8 tape )

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Grizz:

I dont care who wins an Oscar until I do

[GrizzlyAdams]

sorry,

I know premiere is used to capture and edit my video. it can also spurt out animated gifs and images etc.

d8 is dv.

paint shop animater - yes for animated gifs.

I dont fancy touching up 2 minutes at 25 frames

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Grizz:

I dont care who wins an Oscar until I do

[eddie]

Yes 2500.
The reason being because a film camera and accessories and transfers will all cost you more than that in the long run, and since you want video or web distribution, there isnt much point learning all the film tricks.
hire one? Shit, ask the shop and they should lend it to you for a few days before parting with 2 and a half grand.....

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[gaspode]

yeah, most of the photo & video shops by me will let you try out a cam if you leave your credit card details, to stop you stealing it

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[GrizzlyAdams]

Anyone got anything to say about working this in Film.

how hard would it be on Super 8/16, how much per foot to develop and transfer to digital ?

pS.

ANyone seen that new chip theyve brought out - 35mm quality for a digital camera

could be intresting

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Grizz:

I dont care who wins an Oscar until I do

[Generic Skinhead]

Id stay away from film for this Grizz. Video is best for sports definatly, sound wise and lighting wise. Even in film school we shoot our documentaries on DV. More conveniant and also far less expensive. If you want to get into film, mess around with some super 8. Super 16 prices are crazy.

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