Who does Mike Ness support?

**big-ballz** · November 14th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Sticky subject, I'm just gonna move to Europe... See ya... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

**two drink minimum** · November 14th, 2007, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by HotRodder82:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by two drink minimum:
Thanks Rush.

actually, i'm not a fan of rush. i think for myself. i dont understand why you have to resort to insults when having a discussion.

with that said, this will be my last post on the thread. like mykbyk95 said, it's going around in circles, especially discussing these topics online.<hr /></blockquote>If you spew the same nationalist hate speech that the Rush/Hannity AM radio types have been using since the early 90's, you don't think for yourself. Sorry.

(Proudly "anti-american")

[ November 14, 2007 05:10 PM: Message edited by: two drink minimum ]

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**joober jones** · November 14th, 2007, 11:19 PM

There is plenty of anti American sentiment which is being spoonfed to the masses by the media every day as well. Does this mean you aren't thinking for yourself either?

**mawpizzle** · November 15th, 2007, 01:27 AM

I love you Two Drink.

**Love_Pain** · November 15th, 2007, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by HotRodder82:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Love_Pain:
... to the extremely well educated, like all the finacial experts that back him, all the way to political commentators like Bill Maher, John Stewart, and Steven Colbert.

ha! all the same guys who have shows that are airing re-runs...why? because they're writers are on strike. not so smart without their writers are they?!

back to my original point: bush rode in to the white house on the conservative vote. i'm no bush backer, but i voted for him--lesser of 2 evils. what has he done that is conservative? he's the same as clinton--letting in billions of people from krapistan and the turd world filled with diseases that drive up the cost of our health insurance. how are bush's policies conservative at all?! he's calling for amnesty for illegals--again, a leftist move.
obama= an invention to make hillary appear centrist, when we all know that she's as anti-american as all people. all this "it takes a village to raise a child gibberish." that's socialism right there; it doesn't take a village, it takes a mother and a father!

yes, i realize that the "they're all the same, just have to find the less evil" argument is boring. but seriously, the media is hopping this up so they can get away from not discussing the real issues, such as islamo-fascism.

terk, i didn't say that people without a high school diploma shouldn't vote. what i said was--someone without a diploma shouldn't try to tell me how to vote. big difference. i'm all for voting.

but hey, this is a social distortion board. let's keep it that way.

[ November 14, 2007 11:21 AM: Message edited by: HotRodder82 ]<hr /></blockquote>Well, in closing for ya, Bill Maher had a show during the strike. But my point had nothing to do with writers anyway.

**raptorschild** · November 15th, 2007, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by esn212:
This argument will just go in circles, but the truth is, with all the talk we really have no idea who is going to be an effective president. Best we can do is vote for the person we agree with the most and think might be a good leader. How things go during their term is up in the air. It depends so much on how they react to circumstances beyond their control, who they surround themselves with, and other less obvious factors. Voting is gambling, sure. But that makes it all the more important to do your research and get behind the right candidate for you. Glib comments about how they are all the same and how one vote doesn't matter are only going to make things worse. As far as I am concerned, that attitude is a bigger problem than most politicians can be.

Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner. The problem with arguing politics is that there is so much information that simply isnt available to the public. I really can't overly bash or support any given leader due to the fact that you need to have a government clearance in order to even know what you are talking about.

yall go on and do your "research" and vote for who you think is "best". I'd just be interested in your sources for your research and what "your guy" actually does once he or she is elected.

I'll probably vote and give my opinion, but like 99% of Americans my opinion will be just that....factless opinion that could hurt more than help. I guess thats what it takes to be able to "bitch"....you gotta be kidding me.

**mawpizzle** · November 15th, 2007, 01:39 AM

"It takes a village to raise a child" is not socialist. Contact and interaction within a community is certainly an agent of socialization, but is not inherently "socialist" as you stated. Please go read.

Illegals are merely a minor (very minor) factor in the rise in health care costs. Go read and take an economics class. Look up inelastic demand.

**mawpizzle** · November 15th, 2007, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by raptorschild:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by esn212:
This argument will just go in circles, but the truth is, with all the talk we really have no idea who is going to be an effective president. Best we can do is vote for the person we agree with the most and think might be a good leader. How things go during their term is up in the air. It depends so much on how they react to circumstances beyond their control, who they surround themselves with, and other less obvious factors. Voting is gambling, sure. But that makes it all the more important to do your research and get behind the right candidate for you. Glib comments about how they are all the same and how one vote doesn't matter are only going to make things worse. As far as I am concerned, that attitude is a bigger problem than most politicians can be.

Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner. The problem with arguing politics is that there is so much information that simply isnt available to the public. I really can't overly bash or support any given leader due to the fact that you need to have a government clearance in order to even know what you are talking about.

yall go on and do your "research" and vote for who you think is "best". I'd just be interested in your sources for your research and what "your guy" actually does once he or she is elected.

I'll probably vote and give my opinion, but like 99% of Americans my opinion will be just that....factless opinion that could hurt more than help. I guess thats what it takes to be able to "bitch"....you gotta be kidding me.<hr /></blockquote>What a completely defeatist point of view. "You have to have a government clearance to know what you are talking about." Bullshit. You have to be a flaming retard to believe that. It's amazing how people actually go out of their way to be uninformed. Fucking amazing.

**hour_of_darkness** · November 15th, 2007, 01:51 AM

I've got to support both two drinks and the "their all the same" guys on this one.

Two Drinks is right, there's vast ideological differences - but that's all it is. Rhetoric - they don't actually live up to their ideology. In what they do they are exactly the same and it's why I still would support Bush over Kerry. Kerry wouldn't have ended the war, he'd spend just as much, he'd put bigger restrictions on what I can do with my own money for retirement and would try to push national healthcare.

Ron Paul IS different because he has ten terms in Congress showing that he DOES live up to his own standards. He has the most consistent/conservative voting record ever. Many times when he votes against legislation it is 421-1, him being the only one. He's not afraid to stand up to his principle and he's proven it time and time again even when it isn't popular.

He by far, is not your ordinary politican. Hell he's not even a politician, he's a true statesman.

**SocialFCKIND** · November 15th, 2007, 04:55 AM

I dont give a fuck what anyone has to say ...haha.. my vote goes to Hillary Clinton.it seems like a man cant get the job done.and im all about free health care..

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