Direction for "glam" to go?

[chrisdamien]

Yeah, fuck I remember that horrible Blues aera glam of the very late 80's LOL

Poison's Native Tounge, Cinderella's Heartbreak Station... and those, awful as they are, were probably not even the worst

[Carl I.]

Well some bands such as Junkyard and Rock City Angels did the "Blues" thing quite well and actually made albums that even now don't sound all that dated. But I know what you are saying, especially in regards to bands like Cinderella.

Star Star was a glimmer of hope for me. When I had my band Misty Beethoven going, towards its end the Grunge thing happened. I got into the Grunge thing, but never left the Glam world. I wanted to mix the two, but only in the aspects that I wanted my band to go heavier. I was also into the Punk scene and the NY Hardcore scene, so a heavier side was always an idea I had, but certain aspects of the Grunge thing made me believe it could be done quite well. Listen to the Green River song "Unwind", I wanted that energy with Hanoi and Tad mixed.

Then I heard Star Star, they were the Glammiest thing I had heard in years, but production and style created a heavier band than what had existed before. If they had just a little more exposure and backing, I have a feeling they would have done a little bit more than they did.

[chrisdamien]

I agree. Faster Pussycat and Guns N Roses were also bands who delivered good bluesbased records at the end of the 80's.

Guess the difference is that these bands were always like that. Most of the bands at that time seemed so desperate to steer away from their glam thing that they jumped on this bandwagon and made fools of themselves.

Poor Boy Blues by Poison is a great example..... holy fuck what rubbish LOL

But then again I guess the bands who really believe this will do their own thing no matter what. If glam gets big again you can count on the copycats to follow the trends while the rest of us keep creating good music

[Glamarshmallow]

In L.A. It seems that the direction that Glam has to follow is that of Revl'on Red.

[deviantdee]

I don't think glam bands can, or need, to go
in any direction, because they're existence,
like everything else, is cyclical. There as
many GN'Rs, Faster Pussycats and Star Stars as
ever - it's simply record companies not investing
money in either them and/or distribution and
exposure which is the only thing effecting the
scene.

But the balance is actually changing. With CD
sales down and record companies having to seriously
think about marketing their acts prodominently
online, this levels the playing field, because
online, it's networks of people that matter and
not marketing budgets.

Hopefully gigs are not performed exclusively
online too, because it would be nice to see more
people turn off myspace and actually leave the
house to experience the music live.

D.

[Carl I.]

Maybe that is where is will all change. Music will eventually be sold on the bands sites, by the bands. Instead of "Record Companies" there will now be "Touring Companies". A band can't fund a full fledged tour on their own, but if a company believes in a band, then they will step in and sign a band up for a tour.

[deviantdee]

From market forces and online distribution per-
spectives, it's quite possible to remove record
companies out of the equation all together pro-
viding the tour is sponsorable in some other way,
by some other organisation(s). I'm sure, say,
Rev'lon Red would be more than happy to have
a world-wide tour sponsored by Revlon, although
I'm sure Revlon would have other ideas. [img]wink.gif[/img]

As for online empowerment of musicians - I think
the record companies have been shitting themselves
about it for five or so years now. Well, they were,
because we all know how this will eventually work out...
mySpace (for instance) will start selling more
music via their site than Sony's cock-a-block
Internet Top 50 chart (or whatever it's called),
and so they'll just buy out mySpace and procure
the majority of profits, whilst adding them to
their 'Vertical Integration' (very important
new media buzzwords) model.

Even the old days of the 'big 5 record companies'
doesn't exist anymore. Time Warner, Disney, Bertelsmann,
Viacom, News Corporation, Sony, TCI, Universal
and NBC pretty much rule the entire 'new'
economy, thanks to deregulation.

My colleagues down at the BBC in London tell me,
that, whenever the government manages to sell off
one of their departments, it's quickly snapped
up by Siemens, the German engineering firm-come-
mobile phone company.

D.

<font color="#FF0099" size="1">[ January 06, 2006 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Deviant D ]</font>

[Dean Marshall]

To me the new millennium seems a lot like the 80's
We are now having the 80 - 84 period of glam metal with groups like Wednesday 13, MurderDolls, Marilyn Manson, FRankenstein Dragqueens and probably a lot more too...

Characterized by a horror kinda feel to it and agressive metal music. Updated, but much in the same vein as early Wasp, Motley Crue, Ratt and Wrathchild.

Jeeeez .. Sounds like my band ! http://www.myspace.com/electrakill BRING IT ON!!!

Marshy (er .. M-6)

[JayStarr]

Originally posted by Hazardous:
Jay, I would recommend the introduction of a lot of Mixolydian scales. This would propel Glam back into the limelight [img]wink.gif[/img]

Hey Jay, have you seen either the Bob Gruen Dolls DVD yet or the Kane Doco "New York Doll" yet?

<font size="4" face="Arial">I've not seen the Killer documentary yet either.

[JayStarr]

Originally posted by JaimzRiot:


Where it goes in the future, I am afraid will probably not be determined by fans or even the bands, as the record companies are deciding that one despite breakaway successes like The Darkness, there doesn't look like there will be much of a rush unless a band can get some serious dosh behind it.

James

<font size="4" face="Arial">I've been saying that the media won't allow anything other than either "alternative" or the likes of Spears. It's not like it used to be when they would make fun of something, but at least admit it exists. Nowadays, they just ignore things that don't fit into their worldview.

Again, the Spanish language market is wide open.