Writers, What's Your Method?

[Rivals_Rapture]

So, this question popped in my head when Giannis asked me about a comment I made on using Google docs, but I figured it made more sense as it's own topic than just a response.

That being: writers, when you come up with a new story idea that you like, what is your method for beginning its creation?

To explain what I mean, I'll give my own answer. Warning: this might be too long and overly self-indulgent.

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Let's say a story idea pops up, I create a Google Doc that contains the following information:

"Synopsis:
Type (of fight):
Notes:
Ending/Winner:
Visual Reference:"

Then, after I have filled out that little questionnaire, assuming I have enough information nailed down to do so, I set myself to finding models. Models that match the characters I see in my head. Though sometimes the idea comes from models I have found to be a perfect match for one another.



Once I have them, I try to make an edit (which you've all seen before, and yet still I have inserted one here for those who may have missed my work entirely). The edit usually contains the rivals and then images of either where the story takes place, or parts of the story I find important.



After that has been created and added to the doc, I usually leave the story for a day, a week, a month, or even longer. In that absence, and while I am in the shower or laying in bed, I try to imagine the fight and the story playing out from its introduction, as far as I can -- even to its conclusion.

Sometimes, I can leave a story unwritten but imagined until I have figured out the entire tale. But often, some particular scene will be so good (at least in my own mind) that I have to write it, even if after having put it down, I again step away from the story to imagine more. Rinse and repeat until the story is finished.

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So, writers, what's your method? Share with us the details of your own particular path to fights made fiction.

[apenman]

Rivals_Rapture,

METHOD? What's that? But, seriously...

1. I get an idea for a story
2. I start writing
3. It either works or it doesn't

I have a file on the computer that has dozens of story ideas and starts that fizzled. Either I lost my train of thought, or the idea just plain sucked...probably fifty-fifty on that.

I have had a few of those "blessed events" when a story popped into my mind fully formed from start to finish and all I did was fill in the blanks, so to speak.

But truly for me, what happens most of the time is I'll start out with an idea and, as I write, new possibilities for direction and flow of the story will present themselves. More often than not, this will work out for me. Brandi's Opus is an example of this. The original story idea was simply to tell the sordid tale of Brandi's college sexfight adventures. But then i got to thinking the story needed a hot professor. Enter Professor Taylor. Then I thought, it's a college run by nuns, so why not have at least one sexy nun? Enter Sister Grace Marie. Neither they or any of the other peripheral characters were supposed to be in the story.

The story arc will soon return to Brandi and I hope to bring things to a satisfying, logical conclusion.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that none of the above is helpful to you, but I thought your question was interesting and wanted to respond.

Take care,

A.Penman

[JB57]

This is an interesting question and one I cannot easily answer. The sources for my ideas are varied. First, I find myself frequently inspired by work others have already done- my Inge stories are obvious examples of those, or my revisions of the stories by Whistler, or my continuations/revamps of other, earlier stories (eg. Back To School). With those stories, i am simply inspired by the characters and/or plots that others have developed and want to add more to the existing story, either through detail or by putting other dimensions onto the story. Though I have not counted, I suspect that these kind of stories make up the majority of what I write, perhaps indicating a certain lack of originality.

I am also inspired by pictures that I see - often comic art or paintings, more rarely pictures of actual people. I am also inspired by non-sexfight stories I have read that seem to have the potential for the seeds of a more erotic story. I am comic/sci-fi fan from way back and so I am familiar with many of the tropes of those genres. Those ideas frequently work their way into my stories to set the context of the story.

A point I have made before is how important the setting/context of the story actually is. That is the part that makes the story interesting, different and potentially exciting.

So, I get my inspiration from other stories and pictures. I am working on a story now that has a bit of a real-world inspiration but, for me, that is rare.

My "method" varies depending on the kind of story I am writing. When I am revising another writer's story, the groundwork has already been laid and I am just adding detail and maybe subtly altering certain themes. When I take a character beyond the original source material, that is a bit more complicated. For example, Ginny from the "Sexfight at the OK Saloon" story simply took on a life of her own. I put her up against a school teacher in a boarding house because those ideas were very much in keeping with the typical tropes of the Western genre - after all, how many Western stories involve a nice, virtuous school teacher who lives in a respectable boarding house? I just took those ideas and gave them a twist. The fact that the school teacher also had a past as a prostitute was another twist on a well-established Western stereotype. So, I suppose it's fair to say that I take some of the familiar themes/stereotypes of different genres and put my own spin on them. (Sword and Sorceress is an example of this).

As far as writing a story goes, once I have the basic idea in mind, I start writing. I find myself focused on creating a reasonably full backstory for the characters and building up the context. Most of the time, when I get a story going, I'm pretty excited about the basic idea and that gives me the impetus to see it through to the end.

Hope this helps.

JB

[Hank-the-Bobcat]

It's a rare day when I use any sort of method. Usuallly, I will flash on an idea, and if I'm excited enough about it I will just start writing it. Sometimes it doesn't go anywhere. I will get up to the point I wanted, and will have no idea where to take it from there, and I will be left with ten pages of half a short story. Needless to say, these never get posted anywhere. This is at least 90% of my stories.

For the rare ones that I do complete enough to let other people read them, I usually just start from the beginning and start writing until I run out of steam. But unlike the above, it what I wrote is interesting enough, I will usually keep thinking about it. You know, at night, while I'm running, whatever. Then, at a later time, I might have more steam. If things get really detailed, I might make an outline of things I want to cover, but for the most part I think I'm pretty good at making outlines in my head and sticking with them.

[Giannis-CB]

So, this question popped in my head when Giannis asked me about a comment I made on using Google docs, but I figured it made more sense as it's own topic than just a response.

That being: writers, when you come up with a new story idea that you like, what is your method for beginning its creation?
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"Sources" of inspiration can be anything. I mean ANYTHING. Books i have read, movies or videos i have watched (mainstream or not, adult or not). Of course, i do not copy them; i change them quite enough, adding a twist, changing professions, placing the whole story in a different time or in a different place, under different circumstances e.t.c.
Sometimes, even a picture can inspired me. When i wrote "How all started" i had seen in an adult site a sketch (drawing) of the two main female characters of the very popular TV series "The Flintstones" of 60s (taking place in the very ancient times/stone age). The two women (Wilma, Betty their names in the TV series) were in a hot embrace (a very hot picture indeed!) That was more than enough to me in order to write about the very first sexfight in the world history ! (LOL). BTW, there is also a hot adult video with two porn stars mimicking Wilma and Betty doing trib. A short but hot video you may like to watch.


Other times i am inspired by my own thoughts/fantasies. When i wrote the quiet recently posted story "Sexfight in the deep dark" i was motivated by my idea of a private sexfight tournament among "women next door" in a big town. The idea was not strictly mine, years ago i had watched in videos sexfight tournaments, among porn stars. I used this idea changing porn stars with women next door, i found it hotter. I also mixed this idea with the twist at the end of the story (no spoilers, just in case you have not read it).


When i start to write i have not all the story in my mind. As many writers (of any kind of stories and novels) have said many times, the characters you develop they somehow lead you to what you will write next about them. It looks strange but it is true.


In addition, i have more difficulties than all of you. As you may know, English is not my native language. I know to speak/write in English but not well. To translate what i have in mind in English is not the right thing to do. Not always at the very least. You see, "we speak two different languages" means "we have a different way to tell (speaking or writing) our ideas, what we have in our minds". I have to try hard to find how a phrase can be written in English. You are able to write a phrase using different words, in order to add some variety in your writing. I can do this in Greek, not in English. This is an extra reason i need a lot of time to write a story. Only thing that helps me is that i have read many adult stories in English, i have seen some words/phrases many times, so i have learned (a little) how to use them.


Last but not least, i always try for my stories to have a plot; i do not like my stories to be focused in the erotic scenes only. I also like to add some humor, if possible, and quite some of trash talk, as i think that it is a "must" in order to enrich an erotic scene.

Be well ! Have fun !

[Susanoom]

I believe my method is very similar to yours.

First of all, I try to understand what I want to write (type of combat). From there I can understand what kind of protagonists I want to use (for example: if I want to write a fistfight, I don't necessarily need two women with huge breasts. In a titfight maybe the attention moves to the breast, but in a fistfight I can use even women with small breasts, this is one of many examples)

Once I understand the type of combat, I look for the reason for everything. Quarrel over a boy? Amante vs Wife? Wife vs Mistress? Money? Etc.

Subsequently, the setting. If I decide that the fight will be in a luxurious area, at least one of the models must belong to that area. If the fight takes place in a luxury hotel, it would make little sense to use two common university students. The models could be the wife of businessmen, daughters of oil magnates, etc.

Then it's the turn of the models. A vain woman who fights against her husband's stepdaughter. She can't stand it, and the girl does everything to make her despair. Both train in combat. Why not decide who should stay at home with a fist fight?

Finally, I start writing. Combat is the most important part, ok. But there is not only that. The preface, the combat zone, the epilogue. These are all things that take me time.

As for the winner, the victory is cast. As I write, the words come out like a river. Without realizing it, I already write who wins and how.

A review of the whole, and that's it.

So I would say:

1) Type of fight
2) Why do they fight?
3) Setting / History of the models
4) Choice of models
5) Combat
6) Epilogue

Obviously it takes days to finish. Ideas are not lacking. When I find something interesting, I write it in a special file, at least I use it in something else.

[Johannesdk]

My first published story: The adventures of Xara - My first story was inspired by the 1995 movie "Ben Hur" where the main character, played by Charlton Heston, has to work as galley-slave. Although the scenes from aboard the galley, depicted a terribly life, it sparked life in a fantasy where muscular women worked as payed rowers on a galley (which according to what I've googled about gallleys, wasn't that unusual).

Other of my private stories has been inspired by stories by other writers. But I've found it to be more easy to describe a sensual scenario when the story unfold in ancient times, an exception to this is my newest published story about the female tugboat captain, that was heavily inspired be a set of stories by JB57.

That said, I try to create a reasonable realistic build up, where the women circle a bit around each other - psychologically speaken - before it's clear to both parties what they want.

JB57, once wrote, that he always write in 3rd person, that makes i easier to describe what each women think and feel.

Take care!
Johannes

[kamafight]

i am an insomniac - i lay in bed at night and get ideas through various lesbian fantasies. since i am also a lazy alcoholic, i postpone penning the story until one day, i simply have to put it all down. so i have long periods where i dont write much and then suddenly it all gushes out. like jb57, i am inspired by others work. i will also paraphrase tarantino - i write stories that i would want to read.

i also write better when i do not have sex or masturbate. its all over the moment all the pent up sexual feelings are satiated. i think the sexfight story writer needs to be in a state of turmoil to get work done.

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the picture in this article can get me inspired. two women side by side on that exercise machine, sweating it out in that gym. was there a sense of competition between them? did they shower naked together after the workout? so a random article can get me horny.

Kangana Ranaut's Monday Motivation. What Keeps The Mental Hai Kya Actress Going

[Catharsis]

First comes the spark. It can be a stray thought about womens relationships, visualizing a place as a setting for female combat, spinning a commercial or movie scene into an intimate fight, or sketching out a character who's complaining about another woman preventing her from being happy. If the spark is strong enough, it becomes a daydream. Details arrive, characters react to events in ways that reveal their personalities, plot points string together, and dialogue and interactions play out in the mind's eye.

This is the critical time. These things must be captured while they are still vivid. They are written down quickly in an abbreviated outline format. Characters become single letters (true tale: the outline for Homewrecker used W for wife, M for mistress and H for husband. That's why the character names are Wendy, Melissa and Hank). Events during action sequences get shortened to single words or even two letters (tt = trash talk) for speed's sake, with adjectives added as required. Important dialogue gets written out, too. All of this allows the details of the entire story to be typed as fast as the daydream plays out. It may be days, months, or even years before time allows the full text to be crafted and by then such details would normally be forgotten.

For its prose to be written, a story has to assert itself. A re-reading of the outline may trigger a particular scene to get stuck like a catchy tune in the brain. This can be joy, when it's some particularly arousing sequence, or torture, when it's experiencing a character's darkest emotional moment over and over again (frickin' Allison!). The only way to get the repetition to stop is to bring that part of the story to life in words.

The next hurdle is framing the tale. Each one contains a difficulty that the main character is trying to overcome. Introducing it and the characters and the setting, and doing it in a way that allows the ending to land conclusively, and making the result flow smoothly can be tricky. Two things often happen. If the drive to write dissipates, the story gets abandoned (1000 words in, three chapters in, whatever - this is why the first word of a story never gets posted until the last one is written). Sometimes that work is quite good, but for some reason that's not enough to keep going -- the core of the story is no longer compelling. On the other hand, if the words aren't good enough, or they don't lead well into what's supposed to come next, or there's too much dry exposition ("telling") instead of action that draws the reader into the story's world ("showing"), it needs to get tossed and re-written. If the drive and inspiration are there, that'll happen (example: the opening to "Four of a Kind" was completely scrapped and re-written totally differently four times). If not, the story typically dies and its unique ideas or scenario never sees the light of day.

But if all goes well, the full tale comes to life bit by bit. Because the whole thing is plotted out, there's never a writer's block problem of what to put next. The focus instead can be on being creative by adding details to flesh out the characters and environment, and in wordsmithing. Also, because the ending and the theme are set, stuff like foreshadowing, allegorical subtexts, and withholding information in order to set up a reveal is much easier. This also allows writing to pick back up when it pauses (even if, as was the case with "Four of a Kind", the pause happens at the 80% done mark and lasts two and half months).

To maintain good flow and pacing and because there's no proofreader or editor, a writing session often begins with reading through the entire current text of the story before adding onto the end. This way, spelling errors, confusing grammar, awkward phrasing, uninteresting asides, out-of-character dialogue and overuse of the same word get noticed and cleaned up. Also, ideas for better turns of phrase and more incisive dialogue appear and improve the story. On the flip side, it also means that the later portions have more screw-ups and decent but unremarkable prose than the beginning does, but a strong ending can make up for that. It's a slow process, but if the goal is something worth re-reading, the fewer times a reader is reminded that they're reading something someone wrote and the more they're immersed in the narrative, the better.

Finally, the last words are written. The story then gets set aside for a few days. It's inevitable that changes will continue to come to mind soon after completion. Better to think of them and make the necessary edits before the story gets posted than afterwards. Once that trickle of nagging thoughts dies out, then the story's really done. Its importance, once all-consuming, rapidly fades and is replaced by whatever the next story will be. Surprisingly quickly, that next story eclipses the previous one and confidently boasts that it will be even better. The journey continues.

[catfightlover40]

Dear Catharsis,

It would be unfair to quote your whole post for its wonderful content when my reply will be possibly shorter. Were we on Reddit, I'd just say "This, so much this" pointing upwards at your comment. Very, very often the pretense is being brought up that we exist in some kind of bubble totally independent of other factors in our lives that shape us, and we "just have fun". In stark contrast, the majority of stories is about how we shaped various fetishes through the decades, especially with a sieve of visual media (amateur or professional porn adjacent). Thus, stories abound of interracial fights and women whose character trait is to have no other character trait but to provoke the nearest women they can think of "moving in on their men". I had two such girlfriends in real life, and while the stories make it sexy... the girlfriend from White Chicks demanding to know the 2 minutes discrepancy? Not an exaggeration, women like her do exist, hence why morbid jealousy isn't fun. Yet, one could live with that.

What is harder for people to consume who don't make that much effort like you do is that if a writer isn't just technical, but also creative and constantly on the lookout to put a spin on it... Not just as an expression as an artist, but also because self-respecting writers wish to stand out from their peers. The violent and or sensual conflict is the second act, and '80s action movies have taught us that enslaving setup and resolution to the conflict does lead to a great bang, but we don't come back to it. To not going further than Stallone who's a way better screenwriter and director than actor, people quote Rocky more than they quote Rambo. Where the underdog story was as relevant as it is now, most of us could easily forget that there were an arms race, a war in Vietnam and a time when Afghanistan was a to be rescued scene development. We certainly can recount the various ways Rambo killed people, why gets however murky over time.

It's very hard to write memorable action/sex scenes. For the former even in productions like the MCU it's the stunt director/martial arts' choreographer who sees that before their eyes and put it on the storyboard. As for the latter, since we as a race do not have a single unifying theory on what is arousing, the worst a writer can do is to pen down what they like as if that were an authority. There are several aspects to free writing, to gauge an audience, to find a voice/agency, to broaden horizons, to test new ideas.

Yet most of all, it's also synonymous with autonomy. Exactly because we don't get paid for it, we're also not bound to emulate other writers, play second fiddle or abandon standards. I never published as a young person (though I tried) because my environment was and still is convinced, only true and tried methods shall find a voice, especially if you are someone's relative. Of course such a control must not be state owned and dictated, one's community can be similar. My impression is based on feedback that most of the time we seem to write for each other. I oppose anti intellectualism, mainly because there's no shame in working for what you have, just as well I'm not envious of well-built men as it's nobody's fault but my own that I don't hit the gym to be in the best form I can be.