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    click the nietzsche nation link in the link bar.

    whether you post or lurk...
    it contains the potential to dramatically
    redirect your life.

    i'm not asking you to delve fully in anything
    it states.... i'd just like some of ya to
    check it out from time to time.

    posting is also welcomed (even questions).

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    OK I clicked , I went and I read.... Hmmmmmmmmmm


    Ok so the board is in new form and since I know
    this <-> much about the subject of the author or philospher being talked about or refrenced I can only ask this......

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma"> Christianity's Destiny

    Historical refutation as the definitive refutation.-- In former times, one sought to prove that there is no God - today one indicates how the belief that there is a God arose and how this belief acquired its weight and importance: a counter-proof that there is no God thereby becomes superfluous.- When in former times one had refuted the 'proofs of the existence of God' put forward, there always remained the doubt whether better proofs might not be adduced than those just refuted: in those days atheists did not know how to make a clean sweep.

    from Nietzsche's Daybreak,s. 95, R.J. Hollingdale transl
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    *** this isn't some mild attempt to convert a few non believers in a new found religion of philosphy is it? Or did I just make the WORST fopau that you hate?? IE

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">imo... there are two main areas in which nietzsche
    is most commonly misinterpreted:

    #1 -- "...god is dead"
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    Hmmm be interested in seeing where it goes but not much more sorry. Well, unless it cover many other topics rather then becoming a board stuck on reversing what is thought on common knowledge (termed as it works for me.. right or wrong) :-(

    CYA

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    Heh.. remember my "damn nihilism" post?
    Fun Coincidence [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    i've recently been encumbered by a bit of hostility
    from a poster on that board... instantly i was
    withdrawn in images of 'GENIUS BOARD'... and
    gulped....

    surely this cannot be another one of THOSE...

    anyways... to answer the last Q, cya...

    CLICK HERE

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    Ever get on a train or a plane with only people who speak a foreign language? It some how makes me
    as though even though I have lived many years I am ignorant in many things of the world and all of a sudden I feel stupid for not knowing what they say.

    Anyhow I looked up the refrence you gave and also consulted my new best friend since my arrive on this board. It states....

    ni?hil?ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-lzm, n-)
    n.
    Philosophy.
    -An extreme form of skepticism that denies all existence.
    -A doctrine holding that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated.
    Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.
    -The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.
    -also Nihilism A diffuse, revolutionary movement of mid 19th-century Russia that scorned authority and tradition and believed in reason, materialism, and radical change in society and government through terrorism and assassination.
    Psychiatry. A delusion, experienced in some mental disorders, that the world or one's mind, body, or self does not exist.


    Which goes back to my original question. I don't mind philosophy to any determind extent but if it just becomes a few people building upon some other persons beliefs and nodding their head in agreement that the wrold is screwed and that there is no God no Hope No life and we are all some existance yet to be known.... then isn't it in itself some sort of "religion of philosphy"?? If so.... I will be out living life why others sit and ponder it.

    You also stated that that someone dealt you with hostility... You need me and TG to go smack em around for ya??
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    its not that philo is a form of religion... or
    tht religion is a form of philo... or is it?

    they are both based on faith.

    but thats neither here nor there.

    in as far as the nietzsche link...(and my post
    on that other board)

    all i was saying is that most people attribute
    nietzsche with his 'god is dead' cliche...
    and completely misinterpret what its saying.

    heres some links to help:

    CLICKY

    CLICKY

    CLICKY

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    Cyalaytr
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    Thanks for the links...


    Somewhere in there I think I found my answer I was looking for....

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">In conclusion, Nietzsche?s use of paradox effectively encourages his readers to adopt a different point of view and erases their former misconceptions about such things as faith, knowledge and purpose. We are left with a void where our certainty has been stolen from us, and though Nietzsche may have intended for us to be inspired by this void, it may be difficult to construct an alternative vision, which explains why Nietzsche was sometimes called a nihilist </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Which I think answers my original question.


    CYA

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