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December 20th, 2005, 02:15 AM
#61
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December 20th, 2005, 02:18 AM
#62
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I'm sure you noticed verse 29 then, the one that condemns those who debate? That's what you're doing now, isn't it?
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December 20th, 2005, 02:19 AM
#63
Inactive Member
Those verses say absolutely nothing about homosexual relationships not being love. All it says is that you should obey antiquated gender roles.
Actually, interpreted literally, it means women shouldn't do anything but stay home and raise kids and should never work.
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December 20th, 2005, 02:23 AM
#64
HB Forum Owner
Verse 29
They have become filled with every kind of wickedness evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, asrrogant and boastful; the invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents...
I see no mention of debating or that there is anything wrong with a civil debate.
Why we are not to condone these sins:
verse 32:
Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve tf those who practice them.
Sigh...I am not judging man but sins.
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December 20th, 2005, 02:24 AM
#65
HB Forum Owner
Even if I were sinning by debating, that doesn't make other sins any less wrong.
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December 20th, 2005, 02:26 AM
#66
Inactive Member
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,"
We are reading different versions. Remember, the Bible has been translated many, many, many times. I have read original versions in the language.
Do you know Greek or Aramaic? Since you are an aspiring Biblical scholar, I highly recommend it. It will give you whole new insights into your faith.
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December 20th, 2005, 02:26 AM
#67
HB Forum Owner
Verse 26-28:
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
It is repeatedly called "lust" and "unnatural" it is even called "perversion."
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December 20th, 2005, 02:28 AM
#68
HB Forum Owner
I am glad there are so many different translations--each one inspired by God. It lets us learn so many new things with each translation. None of them are wrong. No, you know that I don't know Greek or Aramaic. I don't need to to know my faith and my beliefs.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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December 20th, 2005, 02:31 AM
#69
Inactive Member
Men committed indecent acts- how do you know they weren't doing things like not tipping waiters or running up and down the street with no underpants?
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December 20th, 2005, 02:39 AM
#70
HB Forum Owner
Well, obviously you won't see it the way I do, so I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. Nothing will change your mind here adn you certainly won't change mine (context clues is the answer to your previous question).
Thanks for your views,
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