420b's

**badtoby** · July 22nd, 2012, 04:54 PM

Anyone know what speaker system those were used in?

**Old Guy** · July 22nd, 2012, 06:32 PM

Actually several, Santana and Madrid I know of.

**Altec Best** · July 22nd, 2012, 06:39 PM

+1 (Santana & Madrids) it was designed for a sealed cabinet..

Edit: Was looking for volume dims and saw your post sorry OG

**Old Guy** · July 23rd, 2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Altec Best

sorry OG

Why? Did you fart?

Seriously nothing to be sorry about.

I think GM has made some past posts, the 420 models well in a ported box, but bigger than the Santana/Madrid.

Speaking of Madrids my brother has a set cabs decent, dented aluminum dust caps, and a couple pinholes in tweets, which should be upgraded anyway. A hundred clams. Wouldn't take a lot to make them first class.

**bowtie427ss** · July 23rd, 2012, 12:37 PM

"B's" were late, 1974 and after, and are the premium 420 using a 16 inch frame and the cast motor of the 416-8B.

I'm pretty sure the Madrid was out of production by the time the 420-8B came along, but as soon as i say that an "odd duck" will surface.

**voice of the theater** · July 23rd, 2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by bowtie427ss

"B's" were late, 1974 and after, and are the premium 420 using a 16 inch frame and the cast motor of the 416-8B.

I'm pretty sure the Madrid was out of production by the time the 420-8B came along, but as soon as i say that an "odd duck" will surface.

So, a blown 420B could be reconed into a "real" 416-8B (same motor and 16" frame)?

**bowtie427ss** · July 23rd, 2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by voice of the theater

So, a blown 420B could be reconed into a "real" 416-8B (same motor and 16" frame)?

Aye Captain, it can.

**Old Guy** · July 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by bowtie427ss

"B's" were late, 1974 and after, and are the premium 420 using a 16 inch frame and the cast motor of the 416-8B.

I'm pretty sure the Madrid was out of production by the time the 420-8B came along, but as soon as i say that an "odd duck" will surface.

My bad. I think you are right, but won't guarantee empty boxes weren't sitting around and stuffed later...have seen enough weirdness to be careful about absolutes. But have never seen a Madrid with 420B. only 420A. to be technical, 420-Z.

**analog addict** · July 25th, 2012, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Old Guy

My bad. I think you are right, but won't guarantee empty boxes weren't sitting around and stuffed later...have seen enough weirdness to be careful about absolutes. But have never seen a Madrid with 420B. only 420A. to be technical, 420-Z.

Hmmmm....I have a pair of 872Bs, my first Altecs/first hit of crack in fact. I could swear that they are the newer style frame without the integral tweeter.....