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CONVERGENCE- my Engine, Bills original design, not his new one, uses only one magnet. It is not a 604 type setup, with a large format HF driver...... that would be absolutely huge!
<font color="#FFFFFF" size="1">[ May 26, 2008 11:45 PM: Message edited by: Audio_by_Goodwill ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OG- How is the new one different? I couldn't find anything on the GPA web site, just the 604.Quote:
Originally posted by O G:
Convergence- the original "Engine" was built from the duplex. Yes Bill's new one is different.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not so huge if you used a pancake ferrite motor less the big return pot... http://www.hostboard.com/forums/Quote:
Originally posted by Audio_by_Goodwill:
.... that would be absolutely huge!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct, However, the 604 uses the whole pot, so it's logical that a large format analog would too. http://www.hostboard.com/forums/Quote:
Originally posted by bfish:Not so huge if you used a pancake ferrite motor less the big return pot... http://www.hostboard.com/forums/
Not the last ferrite ones, which would be the proper time-context analog. http://www.hostboard.com/forums/ http://www.hostboard.com/forums/
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ah, I didn't think about that. My observations have mostly been of the Alnico versions on Ebay.Quote:
Originally posted by bfish:
Not the last ferrite ones, which would be the proper time-context analog. http://www.hostboard.com/forums/ http://www.hostboard.com/forums/
[quote]Originally posted by Audio_by_Goodwill:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">!. Take another look at the PDFQuote:
A VI, or VIX? The 9864 documentation specifies the 816VIX, but VIX doesn't follow Roman Numeral convention..... unless the X is supposed to be something other than 10, or VIX maybe an alternative form of 60(6 times 10).
2. Notice the color of the box.
816VIX =
cabinet only. Ready to mount any 16" Altec woofer. Includes connector plate, metal grille, and threaded suspension points
816VI = 816VIX + 515-8GHP
9864A = 816VIX + 16" Engine* + 60 x 40 horn
9894A = 816VIX + 16" Engine + 90 x 40 horn
Duplex(R) = any coaxial speaker made by Altec
*Engine = full-range speaker using shared magnet
Originally developed by Bill Hanuschak at Altec. He added a 515-8GHP woofer to the front of a "pancake" 299 driver. The pancake was a special order for Yamaha America and never included in the Altec line (although I begged many times). The Engine was used in the DTS series concert speakers (DTS645-8AF, DTS945-8AF). A 12" version was added (9264A, 9294A, DTS642-8AF, DTS945-8AF). A small-format version was developed (909 driver)and used in the 9850-8A (16"), PS95 (16"), and DTS200 (12").
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Engine has to do with the box type which is a 816VIX
The units in those are true 2 separate drivers but with a 1.4 inch HF driver.
Not to be confused with the 212 8A which uses a common magnet for both drivers.
http://www.greatplainsaudio.com/downloads/212_8A.pdf
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