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    Who are you voting for?

    Have you even decided?

    Who do you think is the best man or woman for the job?

    What are your thoughts regarding this possibly historic event?

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    I am voting for Hillary Clinton. I think she is the best choice so far. She's already got experience in the White House and as everyone knows behind every great man is an even greater woman. Bill Clinton had this country thriving and prospering. It shouldn't matter what happened years ago behind closed doors.

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    Hillary is an idiot, that has the very same political ambition her ole man had. Ambition breeds corruption, been that way in leadership since the dawn of political leaders.

    In this site is pretty infromative on the dirt of upcoming xanidates.

    http://www.realchange.org/

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    Originally posted by -=Digital Jesus=-:
    Hillary is an idiot, that has the very same political ambition her ole man had. Ambition breeds corruption, been that way in leadership since the dawn of political leaders.

    In this site is pretty infromative on the dirt of upcoming xanidates.

    http://www.realchange.org/
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">While it is true that ambition breeds corruption, I think that we need to look at this from a broader view. Humans are corrupt by nature, everyone has their own motives, and their own goals. Politicians sometimes choose not to make all of their motivations public for fear of critism. Some motivations, and personal ethics have helped bring prosperity instead of strife. Other then Bill getting blowed by an intern and lying about it, he did pretty good in my opinion. We were getting out of debt as a country, and turning ourselves around.

    It has always been said that it isn't the president who truly runs the White House, but rather, his wife. With that said, if our country was doing well back then, it would stand to reason that hillary would be a good leader.

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    That website is basically nothing more than a glorified slamfest. I happen to think that since her husband was able to pull this country out of national debt and that we were actually prospering as a nation that she will be able to follow in those footsteps and hopefully get our country turned back around to where it needs to be. The minute G.W. Bush was elected I knew we were headed for war and we've been at war most of the time during his time in office. That and he has put us back into debt worse than ANY time in this countries history. I have better things to think about than all the dirt being hashed out on every single candidate. I'd rather make a decision based on qualifications not a lowdown slamfest that gets no one anywhere.

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    On another note, they are evil, corrupt, and twisted beyond repair. So it isn't a question of who is corrupt or not, it is the question of who do we agree with, and who is the "not that evil" one of the bunch... food for thought..

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    You are failing to realize those "slamfest" are only summaries to the actual over all of integrity, and per suit. She has done nothing but blow smoke up the peoples ass about her intentions, feeding off the very weaknesses of poverty having some light at the end of the tunnel. ANY president can run their term and never go to war, (as Bill did) That doesn't make a "good presidedent" what makes a good president going to War, is one doing so for the right cause, other then high end financial politics.

    She prob will be like bill and be silent to some major issues that are goin on, as long as we dont goto war, and of course reformat the welfare system, so more people that are 3rd and 4th generation govt families can sit on their ass sucking our tax dollars.

    China as of now gets 3. (something) billion dollars of our tax dollars (A YEAR), for absolutely nothing but an agreement of "free trade" which No one (other then the rich folk) sees any revenue off of, which is only a third of what we tax payers pay them that comes back to those rich folk..... Has she even looked into that issue? Nah of course not, they are the ones (china) funding her campaign...with huge campaigns any under dogs dont have a chance. So it is safe to say, the 3 billion dollar a year contract (that we pay for) will continue, imagine what 3 billion could do for the US alone?

    So far the only one that has even mentioned the China loophole, is Ron Paul.

    <font color="#6495ED" size="1">[ December 22, 2007 10:23 PM: Message edited by: -=Digital Jesus=- ]</font>

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    China will be the next superpower, it is no longer an "if", it is just a question of "when". We are setting ourselves up for our own downfall, and who do we have to thank for this? The powerful politicians, and the rich bastards who control them. It has been said that war breeds corruption, but I believe personally that corruption breeds war as well. Most rich powerful people are corrupt, and this is why we are in a war over oil right now.

    It is a known fact that the reason we went to war in the first place was so bush and cheney could monopolize the world's oil supply. First one to get a contract to drill exclusively over in iraq was haliburton, and who owns haliburton? Dick cheney of course... Ever wonder why we have had the ability to use hydrogen as fuel, but now almost 60 years later it is just now hitting the public eye? It's no secret that most of the stocks are now in the oil industry... The wealthy and even our own govt own the biggest share of oil stocks. If the oil stocks plummet, so does their revenue, and they aren't about to let that happen...

    They could care less about the poor, or for the quality of the air we breath, or the water we consume... They care about the enviroment when it's convenient for them... Everything comes down to convienience, and money... Such is where the interests of the world lay... Corruption breeds war... War makes rich men richer, and the powerful even more so... So since the political arena is made up exclusively of the rich and powerful, it isn't a question of who is or isn't evil and corrupt they take both to a whole new level... The real issue is what level of reality are we willing to accept, and what kind of life are we willing to leave for our children? At what point do we say enough, and do something about it? Or are we just a bunch of lapdogs content to accept the scraps we are fed, which are just a fraction of the life everyone deserves, but only few attain?

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