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I don't mean to start tolling the bells
of woe for this place - but I will. With
so many of us now migrating to myspace
(except buck-the-trender Raggz), and myspace
offering mp3 storage, customisable forums,
PMs blablabla, and moreover, all for free,
how long can a subscription-based
one-trick-pony (no offence) like this last?
D.
myspace used to be cool about a year ago but recently, with all the advertising that myspace has been doing it is quickly becoming what other free online 'hook up' places become. a lot of fake people, a lot of people that join to just whore their band out, people who think that with a keyboard and a mouse comes some type of intelligence, attention whores who need to hear how good they look and basically a lot of worthless internet babble. i still prefer this place due to the fact that it is friends, people don't join it unless they have somewhat of a common interest and it's more like home. but who am i to say, i have never been into trendy things for the sake of saying to begin with.
I agree with Bill...
Myspace is just one big COMPETITION FEST...and Nothing but fakes and to me is a big Online Find Ya Mate Organization. Hince the reason for me leaving that joint.
Sure lots of bands are there...But It just turned out not to be my kinda place to hang out. Now, this place is to me 100% better than that other Garbage.
<font color="#0099FF" size="1">[ July 13, 2004 04:24 PM: Message edited by: A Katt Named Raggz ]</font>
I don't know about that Creeps, you seem to
get yourself around there more than most. [img]wink.gif[/img]
I understand the anti-sychophancy thing. The
actual 'blog' content, of course, is minimal
at best for most of those pages; but saying that,
I think it's quite a handy little place to
hoist up a cursory band site, 4 free mp3s and
a photo album.
D.
oh don't get me wrong, i've been over and back through the whole myspace site i'm just saying that last year it was more of a community where now it is more of a meat market, look at me and how cool i am, here is a picture of me from 10 years ago when i was in a band, come check out my band playing a corner bar in the middle of nowhere north dakota type site. i have actually been through both of Raggz' brief stays at myspace. and the daily outages, and the lame PM system introduction, and the blah blah blah. it is slowly heading the way of friendster. the new one on the horizon is called friendup.
if you are looking for free mp3 hosting there is always soundclick.
I have yet to do much at myspace. In fact, I have yet to do anything other than pop over there, and get a little lost right away, and then give up on it. I seem to think I tried doing a search, and got lead astray.
Maybe I will look at it again.
As for the intelligence comment there Bill, that is pretty much anything on the 'net. But this day and age is that. ANYBODY can become a published author now, thanks to publishing programs. I was sent a couple of books for review a little while ago. Both books had big ol' "Thanks, I would never have made it without..." types of things in them. Funny thing is that both book were self-published, and the only person should have been thanking was himself. I am impressed that people have the "oomph" to do it themselves, but these were books that had no right being published, as they sucked horribly.
the best over there is the people who think, because they read msnbc.com, that they are now political experts.
Yeh, because MSNBC is your average impartial,
politically unaffected media outlet of course [img]confused.gif[/img]
Looking at photos of people in the erstwhile
bands seems quite harmless to me. I've put up
two myself, so what? Self-styled webcam glamour
starlets (which is what quite a few myspace sites
are premised on) is, I think, something else.
Then again, what fun it is to skim across the
entire site simply by skipping across sexy-
looking photos in peoples' 'Friends List'.
The only pages that get on my tits, are the
ones stuffed to the gills in banners and plugins
and what not. There's no award for highest
number of so-called 'Friends', either, so who cares
what the alleged number is?
And admittedly, if I was a struggling kid in
a band that found itself in a region surrounded
by lots of myspacettes, I'd squeeze that
promotional vein until there wasn't a drop of
claret left.
It's only myspace's multi-muscled hip hop
community that scares me for some reason.
D.
It'z an ok place i guess although i only log in now and again. I haven't been there long enough to pass any judgemental commentz yet though [img]smile.gif[/img]
Well, I do agree with both DeviantD and Creeper on their comments. I would have to say for my current band The Retreads it's been awesome. Exposing our band and meeting people to do shows and selling our new CD. Myspace is just another tool to expose your band to a broader scope of people. Glitz is more of a community where everyone at least knows a few people.
I enjoy coming here and reading the posts but Glitz primarily focuses on Glam. Myspace is a better environment for promoting something, making some connections etc. It's too big to be community like. Although I check the punk b-board frequently. The only thing is you can't post replys related to the post as a thread. At our show on Sunday we had 4 people from myspace come down to the show. They were from Vancouver.
So yes you could say it is "whoring out your band" so to speak, but really isn't that what a musician does although I wouldn't use that term?
Try to expose themselves to as many listeners as possible? I mean we all post things here on what we're doing be it a new CD, writing lyrics, scripts etc, but I wouldn't call it whoring ourselves. It's just letting people know what you're about and if they take an interest that's awesome.
Like any community "Glitz" included you'll get the posers, the jack-asses, etc.
I used to come here a lot more often, but I've been quite busy lately and for a good while there, nobody seemed to really post anything or just the same few people.
Okay I've babbled enough...I think there was some point in there...LOL
Ginger is riot. Toured with these guys back in 96.
http://www.myspace.com/whitetrashdebutantes
So I hit the myspace joint last night for a few. What a fucked up joint that all is. It seems to be nothing more than a glorified "guestbook", would that be a correct way of saying it? You get a little desciption of yourself and stuff, and then everybody jots some shit down, and gets their avatar next to it. Plus it all looks a mess and is quite confusing to look at. Kind of like a kid with ADD and a heroin addiction designed it all.
The majority of them, I agree, are horrendously
patched together - with nothing more than either
inanely-fawning compliments or lumpen abusive
bollox scribbled in every box. Quite depressing
reading, really.
(Equally depressing is discovering that Taime
Downe is seemingly spending every waking
moment there.)
I'm (already!) revising my opinion of myspace. I'm
going to join those self-aggrandising harlots, and
will patch my own music site there over the weekend,
and then nonchalantly promote the hell out it
and/or leave it to rot.
D.
A friend of mine invited me to join myspace, but to be honest I have no use for it. The people that wanna talk to me know where to find me on messengers. That's all it would be for me, another messenger. I've got enuff as it is.
"D, I'll be the first to post a comment on your
page....WHORE!.....LOL"
I prefer the title 'Escort' if you don't mind [img]wink.gif[/img] .
"Hey D, what is the cheapest you personally think
you could do a cool looking video for?"
Me? Depends on how you define 'cool' I suppose.
If cool is just great lighting and lots of fancy
post-production/editing, that doesn't really cost
much on 'mates rates' (i.e. me doing it), because
even if the original lighting's a bit poor, it
can usually be digitally rescued/corrected
(providing the footage itself was shot on decent
source, of course)/.
Even once-expensive production tricks like
Bullet Time and Displacement Mapping (invisible
Predator effect) take, from start to finish,
about an hour or so to achieve nowadays.
Production team, editors, blablabla aside, it's
usually hire costs that absorb most of the
budget: electric generators, location space,
cheery pickers (if you're really ambitious),
cameras, etc.
D.
It'z mad how many people you actually find over at myspace that you wouldn't expect, like for instance.. Jack Osbourne lol!
It'z an okay place i guess, but i find myself only logging in there now and again and like Carl said... it iz more or less like a glorified guestbook of sorts. Good idea though to plug your music with a band myspace account i suppose though.
Cranky codgers, the lot of you LOL.
Carl, the reason some pages look a mess, is you can put in whatever code you want. So some young un' might not know HTML very well but at least they're expressing themselves and trying to be creative. Perhaps it's more of a guestbook on the personal pages, but people do sometimes post interesting rants or opinions on their blog pages. On the band pages you can post tour dates, MP3's, Merch, pictures, announcements etc. Yes that is just like a website, but unlike a bands website you're co-mingling with hundreds of thousands of people and other bands.
We've had at least 50 people from California alone ask us if we are touring there soon, which we are in the fall. So hey maybe we'll get more than the 20 people who show up at a PBF show these days when we venture down there...LMAO....sorry Raggz..hehe
D, I'll be the first to post a comment on your page....WHORE!.....LOL
Hey D, what is the cheapest you personally think you could do a cool looking video for?
http://www.myspace.com/theretreads
I couldn't resist....I feel so cheap....the shame
Myspace is like this:
There are those of you who love it...
There are those of you claim you hate it...
There are those who are indifferent...
But one thing is for damned sure, once you sign up for it, you usually get addicted within the first week or so. As much as everyone says they "hate" the place, I find most of us are there at least 3/4 times a day, if nothing more than to just check messages. I've had it since October, and have been sick of it since about December, but much like hollywood, I find myself going back for more and more. YES there are alot of 'friend collectors' or 'myspace whores' but I also know some pretty cool people are on there. That site has helped me make some pretty cool connections that I probably wouldn't have been able to do without it. So, is it lame? Yes. Is it a tremendous waste of time? Yes. Is it childish? YES. But take it for what you will. You can either use it for something productive(because so many people are on it) or you can not get it at all....OR (my favorite) you can just bitch about how lame it is, when you, yourself spend 87% of your time online, logged into your myspace account.
I am a proud myspace user. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Yes, it is stupid and lame or whatever, and there are alot of fakes...but that's what makes it what it is and I love it anyways!
I've never been to this myspace thing. Hence, I can bitch all I want. [img]tongue.gif[/img] lmao
My name is Mandithecoolkid and I am a myspace addict (applause from the crowd)single tear trickling down one cheek. Guestbook intervention imminenent....
D, As for the vid thing. Thanks for insight. We're looking to do something relatively soon but only will have about 2 grand as we didn't get a FACTOR grant (Canadian government has a program that sponsors artist development) I was thinking if I can record tunes in my apartment that are CD quality for very little. We should be able to do something similar via video with the huge advances in technology.
Sandy; as there's me thinking I had an impending
video commission, too. (If I had, you could knock
off at least $500 of that 2K for my airfare alone.
[img]wink.gif[/img] )
Re video production investment: you've got two
avenues to consider: PC (Premiere Pro, After
Effects, shoot everything on miniDV and install
a graphics card with, at the very least, a Fire-
Wire socket), or Mac (Final Cut Pro and Motion
[Apple's version of After Effects, which negates
After Effects' 'keyframes' in favour of 'behaviours).
It is possible to install After Effects 6 for Mac,
I think. For what it's worth, I've got access to
all the above.
There's some great FCP/Motion etc. demo movies
at:
http://www.apple.com/motion/
D.
it's like everything else on the net; You take what you can use and leave the rest. Move on after it outlives it's usefullness. It's a bit amusing but I wouldn't live vicariously through it(thats sad) I prefer G-net too overall.
I'm not a 'proud' myspace.com user. I currently find
it convenient. I'll eventually be glad to see the
back of it. People who are currently spending '87%
of their online time there' need medical advice.
D.
<font size="3" face="Arial">point taken, understood....Quote:
Originally posted by Mandithecoolkid:
....OR (my favorite) you can just bitch about how lame it is, when you, yourself spend 87% of your time online, logged into your myspace account.
I love it...I'm not a "friend collector" though, I only add people that I either know (even if I only know them casually), or know "of" (like friends of friends).
On that note, feel free to add me! lol http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...riendID=119705
All right, let me see, myspace sucks because; it's full of morons, it's covered in adverts, no one cares about anything besides how popular they/their band looks and so forth. And guess what... that's exactly like 99.999% of the things online. There's some cool people on myspace, band pages with music, it's free, there's some nice little games... it can be a pretty nice place to be for a while. As with anything though, the majority is a pain in the ass.
Some people think this board is so cool, but there are other boards on Hostboard.com that most of us would dislike just as much as myspace. You've really just got to dig around a bit on myspace, it's not all bad.
We could set up a Glam group on there as well, of course every time someone tries to do anything new, people go split into little glam sub-groups. So, nevermind I mentioned a Glam group.
<font size="3" face="Arial">Anyone remember JJ's board or the old DR board??Quote:
Originally posted by Andriiya:
We could set up a Glam group on there as well, of course every time someone tries to do anything new, people go split into little glam sub-groups. So, nevermind I mentioned a Glam group.
Didn't think so...
I remember the other boards, but we could never agree to all move to a different one while Glitz was gone. Which is why it would probably never work to make a glam group on myspace...
Having never experienced myspace pre-adverts or
on dail-up, I don't have a problem with it. It
must be a complete bitch, though, waiting for those
pages with too much junk in the trunk to download.
Mr Dickhead.
For shameless purposes of publicity I just knocked up a quick profile on there,
http://profile.myspace.com/users/5399367
Seems pretty cool, but just crossing my fingers that I don't attract any more "bunny-boiling nutcases" like I did the last time I did something like this haha
I deleted my account. Not a rock star or single person and saw too many things ie: married people carrying on with others etc that turned me off. aaacckk.