officials

I have to agree about the refs. Grats to Gate City. I think the final total in the 4th quarter was Rye Cove 11 Gate City 10 on fouls. Or thats close. Another thing. Rye Cove how can you allow someone to dribble the ball the length of the court and score a layup in 4 secs? Anyway GOod luck to GC in the region and beyond. Great season to Hood, Shup, Detriot, Franklin, Anthony and the rest of the seniors if I missed one. Best of luck.

I really think it is ironic that GC is complaining about the refs. I know kids are taught you have to overcome bad refereeing, but ever since GC came back to the LPD, I would dare say 75% of the games called in the LPD both for boys and girls have been PRO Gate City!!!

To WarEaglePride..I thought it showed alot of class from both schools as both met at half court after the game and kneeled down and said prayed together. I thought it was a well fought game and Scott County was well represented. Good luch to Hood and Coach Mullins as they both went out with class....

Hey,
To those that are complaining. You got what you wanted. Altizer is in full control, Many of the officials that are out there to get noticed are in the Regions. Your coaches picked them! All the regions are is a thank you from the coaches to the refs that have sucked up to the coaches all year. Is very amusing that officals that were not picked to do the regions are picked to officate the state finals. Ever since they changed the format on picking officals for the regions the VHSL seems to think that the officals that are sitting at home during the regions are good enough to be picked for the state finals, but not good enough for the regions. I find that very ironic.

I find it funny that people get on here and gripe about the officals myself, If they call too many fouls people gripe, if they don't call enough fouls people complain. You have to deal with the hand you are dealt. Whatever that might mean, officals never lose a ball game for your team there are several plays during the course of the game that could get a win. And from personal experience, in my own judgement basketball is the hardest sport to officiate even with 3 refs. So the next time your team loses and you want to blame the refs just take a look back and see what you could have done better as a team to win that game. It's pretty simple.

As far as the gate city fouls go, i wasn't at the game, but i have watched them play a few times this year. They are very aggressive with the hands and defensive play in general, the refs probably didn't do that bad of a job they probably called what they saw since that is what you are supossed to do anyway. Referees will get together before a game and set standards if you will to determine what they will look for throughout the course of a game. Maybe hand checking was one of those things, since gate city is notorious for it. I think once you get further up the line (Regions, State) games should be called tighter it forces teams to play DEFENSE so maybe it wasn't a bad thing for them to get those fouls called, next time they can play better defense and it will more than likely help them up the road.

I am not in anyway on the officals side because i agree with most of them are pretty bad this year, but you just have to deal with it and go on. Lucky for Gate City they were able to move on.

Good post!
Funny you bring up a lot that is not ever mentioned. Other night I was doing a game and a coach was telling me how the officals cost him the game..... My response was " Oh Really". I said... Coach, how many foul shots did you miss in the 4th quarter? He said 4 why, I said, and how much did you get beat by? One was the answer. After a moment of uncomfortable silence he excused himself....
Yes there are bad officals that have no business officiating. But, to put the whole lump in a basket and call all of them bad is just plain wrong. Officals dont miss lay ups, foul shots, they dont foul players, they dont miss defensive or offensive assignments. The players do! Officals dont get out coached, call wrong offensive or defensive plays. There are times that officals would love to call a play since the coach is spending all of his time officaiting. The boys coach at JJ Kelly is the worlds worst. Its to the point that no offical wants to do his games because he acts like an idiot.
When I first got into officating. Coach Bently was at JJ Kelly. In my eyes and other officals eyes he was and is the best coach in SW. VA. After years of officiating his games I asked him why he always ran illegal screens? His response was, I run them till you all call them. Hey, that is smart coaching. He would tell me that he didnt want to see me doing his games b/c he knew I would call them. I took that as a compliment. So as for GC. The coach is doing what all great coaches do. He does things till its called.

Isnt your job as an official to call fouls fairly and the same all the time, regardless of how much somebody fouls?

No official will do that against Gate City because they all know they will be there all night. Gate City just has the advantage of being deep enough to foul until the officials get tired of calling it.

As for Coach McAmis, Bentley complained just as much from what I understand, he just wasnt as loud as Coach McAmis about it...Bentley had probably twice as many Technicals in his first few years as Coach McAmis has.

There is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion and sticking up for your team.

When Coach Bentley complained he was 99% of the time correct. TJ just complains and 99% of the time he is wrong. I wacked Bentley many of times. Just like TJ yelling 3 seconds... He doesnt have a clue about the rule.
I always called hand checking against GC early and it was stoppped by the 2nd quarter.
No there is nothing wrong about sticking up for your team, but bereting an offical b/c of the lack of talent or lack of coaching ability is no excuse to act like and idiot. He needs to focus on coaching his team and not the officals.

Valid point on calling Gate City on that too. When its called, they can adjust and will adjust, but they know that most don't want to call it all night.

How can someone not have a clue about 3 seconds? Doesn't 3 seconds just mean that someone has a foot or is in the lane for more than 3 seconds, and that time re-sets each time a shot goes up?

That is how I have always interpreted the rule. I'm sure TJ and most other coaches understand 3 seconds.